Media failing us again, sensationalizing Covid-19

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And the lungs and everything else the immune system was able to fight off but the heart disease in the heart was not able to bounce back, that Candace Owens is why you shouldn’t be posting on it. and guiding people into anus thoughts.
 
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Is there proof? Do we have a medical doctor giving a sworn testimony to this?

Amazing people can be convinced something this big is a hoax.. now that is one powerful form of suggestion.... I guess the earth really is flat too.

Wow, even Candace Owens in LaLa Land.. sad day
 
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In 1994 it was estimated that the disabled population in Guatemala was 59,841, or 0.72% of the total population.
Is there proof? Do we have a medical doctor giving a sworn testimony to this?

Amazing people can be convinced something this big is a hoax.. now that is one powerful form of suggestion.... I guess the earth really is flat too.

Wow, even Candace Owens in LaLa Land.. sad day
Apparently she has been in LaLa Land for some time back in 2018 she made this statement. Not sure what she said on the mass shootings?

Her career has been embroiled in controversy – from her 2018 comments that “Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well” to her comments on mass shootings.

and this 5 hours ago on Twitter, she is thinking about running for office, yea LaLa Land.

I’m now honestly considering running for office. Never had any desire to previously, but something changed in me last night. Had a conversation with my husband and I think it’s a plan.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/candace-owens-considering-running-for-office
 
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Brazil is another country going the relax mode but the president of Brazil is going standing on that.

 
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Hmm seems vaping alcohol is a fad now, though I wonder if the medical community has tried this on coronavirus with fluid on the lungs sounds completely stupid but it is used in medical settings for clearing fluid in the lungs.

There appears to be bars have vaping alcohol, I’ve read this can be dangerous but it appears not illegal to have so it must not be that dangerous if people can buy these devices. apparently this method is sometimes used in health care settings will use in some cases like nausea what about coronavirus cases.

While the party-fueled vaporization and inhalation of alcohol is extremely dangerous, there are some real medical benefits when done appropriately. In 1954, Dr.’s Aldo Luisada, Morton Goldmann and Ruth Weyl used this as a method for treating pulmonary edema, resistant to all other forms of therapy.

The fluid in the lungs, associated with pulmonary edema, contain blood elements that get churned into a froth by the act of breathing. This leaves foam-like bubbles that make it extremely difficult to diffuse oxygen through the capillary beds. By bubbling oxygen through a 50% ethyl alcohol solution, the frothy bubbles collapse making it easier to breath. It’s thought the alcohol alters the surface tension of the bubbles, causing the collapse. The resulting sputum is also more liquid and is much easier to expel from the lungs.

Another well accepted treatment using alcohol inhalation is in the prevention of alcohol withdrawals post-surgery. As with any physically addictive substance, when you stop using, withdrawals occur. Known as Alcohol Withdrawal Syndrome (AWS), the symptoms can be deadly. In 1908, when hospitalization was uncommon, the mortality rate of AWS was around 37%. Currently, the mortality rate for patients in a hospital is around 6.6%. Since even those addicted to alcohol sometimes need surgery, doctors are left with the problem of preventing AWS while they’re recovering.

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/04/good-bad-vaporizing-inhaling-alcohol/

would vaping everclear 151, 75% alcohol or 50% kill viruses in the lungs, it’s known to help reduce AWS deaths to 6.6% of people hospitalized with life threatening withdrawals.

 
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The Chinese treat patients with a whole lot of grams of herbs 15g/15000mg of ginseng and some kind of pills.


https://mmrjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40779-020-0233-6


Severe-stage, characterized as inner blocking causing collapse. In this stage, the clinical manifestations include dyspnea, panting on exertion or need assisted ventilation, accompanied by coma, and agitation, cold limbs with cold sweating, dark purple tongue, thick or dry thick tongue fur, floating and rootless pulse. The thrapeutic logic is rescuing from collapse by restoring Yang. Hence, the recommended prescription comprises of ginseng 15 g, aconitine 10 g (predecoction), and Cornus officinalis 15 g above yielded decoction, and both taken with fluid Suhexiang pills or Angong Niuhuang pills.
 
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Won’t see herbs being a treatment in a hospital in America I don’t think, usually doctors will shrug it off. I’ve had that happen with mentioning Ashwagandha as helping my thyroid.
 

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Won’t see herbs being a treatment in a hospital in America I don’t think, usually doctors will shrug it off. I’ve had that happen with mentioning Ashwagandha as helping my thyroid.
Yeah adaptogens (ginseng, eleuthero, astragalus, ashwagandha... ) help body fight among other things. If nothing else they will help mitigate stress from all this, especially ashwagandha helps with stress and sleep.
High dose vitamin C (bowel tolerance point) during infection.
Vitamin D.
Zinc.
Magnesium (i make mag oil and use transdermally), Mg boosts T cell activity ridiculously high they go Jason Bourne...
All listed things are also preventative, I do all this now because my immunity sucks and even a little draft mows me down.
People run to echinacea but echinacea helps mainly before you get sick, not too useful when it happens, so adaptogens are better to have imo because they help in both cases.
They are looking into quercetine in Canada, the trial is on but if it's successful it will sell out and then they will be reporting on tv to get it.
They are looking into what helped with MERS/SARS because this virus is highly genetically similar.
Licorice tea or extract is the best bet to have during this mess, unless there is high blood pressure (contraindicated, it can raise bp). Here's a nice recap:
https://plantmedicines.org/licorice-mers-sars/

I like the idea of licorice because unlike quinine it doesn't stop your heart, lol. No, seriously. People order quinine (cinchona bark) it was selling out all over Amazon but it can stop the heart by slowing the rhytm especially in arrhytmia. It's really not to be used at home...

I hate to be redundant but reader please dont take this as professional medical advice - everyone should check for med interactions and contraindications with their doc before taking anything and especially high dose anything...
 
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Yeah adaptogens (ginseng, eleuthero, astragalus, ashwagandha... ) help body fight among other things. If nothing else they will help mitigate stress from all this, especially ashwagandha helps with stress and sleep.
High dose vitamin C (bowel tolerance point) during infection.
Vitamin D.
Zinc.
Magnesium (i make mag oil and use transdermally), Mg boosts T cell activity ridiculously high they go Jason Bourne...
All listed things are also preventative, I do all this now because my immunity sucks and even a little draft mows me down.
People run to echinacea but echinacea helps mainly before you get sick, not too useful when it happens, so adaptogens are better to have imo because they help in both cases.
They are looking into quercetine in Canada, the trial is on but if it's successful it will sell out and then they will be reporting on tv to get it.
They are looking into what helped with MERS/SARS because this virus is highly genetically similar.
Licorice tea or extract is the best bet to have during this mess, unless there is high blood pressure (contraindicated, it can raise bp). Here's a nice recap:
https://plantmedicines.org/licorice-mers-sars/

I like the idea of licorice because unlike quinine it doesn't stop your heart, lol. No, seriously. People order quinine (cinchona bark) it was selling out all over Amazon but it can stop the heart by slowing the rhytm especially in arrhytmia. It's really not to be used at home...

I hate to be redundant but reader please dont take this as professional medical advice - everyone should check for med interactions and contraindications with their doc before taking anything and especially high dose anything...
I know one thing I haven’t seen a doctor in almost two years, since taking Ashwagandha for my thyroid and I’m fine haven't had a test in awhile but my symptoms use to be like all of them, lost hair gained weight become incoherent at times when my levels where low, I haven’t had any problems with loosing more hair actually it has grown back in a lot of places on my legs but some area i guess it has burnt the hair follicles are dead when my thyroid wasn’t working well for a couple of years. I also weigh about what I should be normally and I am not lethargic at all, I remember when my thyroid went bad I didn’t noticed but people said I mumbled and that is a sign of becoming lethargic.
 
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Personally I don’t think anyone With A under active thyroid should be taking a synthetic hormone for the thyroid the thryriod will shut down over time because the body diedht think it needs the hormones I know once the hair loss stating creepy up my arm I had enough and went natural to boost help the thyroid produced its own again and it helps no doubt the hair on my arms is fully regrown.

Unless you have thyroid cancer or a over active thyroid then the doctor isn’t the way to go. some herbal treatments may help over active thyroid but Ashwagandha will not help overactive thyroids because it boosts it not suppress it but there is a herb call holy basil that does reduce thyroid production I’m not 100% sure it will work for overactive but I assume it just might and soybean is a known suppressor also.
 
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so pleased to see awoken people here. Its a huge hoax, speak to share traders and ask them whats going on here. Boy do they have a tale to tell. Its a huge hoax to set the world up for the next phase. And the MSM is heavily involved in it. They are deliberately scaring people and making them comply .
I'm not buying into the conspiracies, so far I've heard this was a bio-weapon of the Chinese meant to crash world stock markets so they could buy up on the cheap....of course they can't buy unless shareholders actually sell....and the big holders employ deriviative strategy's through instruments like puts and calls as insurance against wild fluctations.....the other one I've heard is that "they" want everyone indoors so they can install 5G "death towers"....I'm sure others have heard that one, same theory was floating around about 4G.

I actually do have a position in a company developing an epigentic drug called apabetalone that has been identified as a potential candidate to treat/cure covid-19...it has a breakthrough therapy designation from the FDA so I'm hoping....the conspiracy crowd probably think that because a major Chinese pharma is the major shareholder that its part of a conspiracy too.

I was asking myself 'what's really going on' given my opinion that our response is overblown....but now seeing that Sweden is reacting in what I would consider a more proportionate manner....now I'm more relaxed.
Statistical analysis at times like this involves something called "excess mortality or mortality displacement"....its too soon right now to know how many of the deaths so far attributed to covid-19 would have occured anyway. In Canada we've had a big jump in deaths at nursing homes, which obviously house lots of the most vulnerable people....seniors with compromised heath who are/were likely to die soon regardless of covid-19. Now, instead of 10 deaths being spread out over sevreal months, they're happening all at once over a couple or three days.

Oxford did look at the first 390+ deaths and came up some numbers....I posted the video presenting the data, but it was encouraging in that it suggested that the vast majority of deaths are not among otherwise healthy young people....that most deaths are occuring among those who, again, were likely to die soon anyway...

When everything is said and done they'll be studying the impact of this for years. Like the Great Financial Crisis of 2008/2009 which spawned all manner of research by orginizations like the WHO that examined the effects of that massive recession on mortality rates and the overall health care systems around the world.
 
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but now seeing that Sweden is reacting in what I would consider a more proportionate manner....now I'm more relaxed.
Sweden's numbers of dead are surpassing Australia, Canada, Norway, Austria and on and on...

They are not really doing that well.
 
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Sweden's numbers of dead are surpassing Australia, Canada, Norway, Austria and on and on...

They are not really doing that well.
Norway has a population roughly half what Sweeden's is....so naturally there should be more in Sweden. 10.1 million versus 5.4 million as per google. I think that's a good gauge though because they're geographically close. Canada/Austrailia are further away from the epicentre so the surges should come later....and again, Austria's population is 8.8 million, so Sweded on that metric alone should be higher.

That's a good comparison though....of course average age of population needs to be factored in as well, hardest hit country seems to be Italy on a per capita basis but it has the oldest population in all of Europe, second oldest in all the world after Japan.