Media failing us again, sensationalizing Covid-19

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JamOn

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Back in February this news outlet made a blunder in its reporting a clip from it below the reviews posters are slamming the articles about still being up.

almost zero chance getting the virus in America

Influenza-related illnesses this week climbed to nearly 22 million nationwide, and while the coronavirus threat is serious — more than 24,000 cases have been reported in China, where the virus originated — the odds of catching it in the United States are almost zero, according to Healthline.


https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/flu-bigger-threat-nyc-coronavirus-experts-say
 
StrugglingTilMyReward

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JamOn said:
Sweden will be the country to watch, they are going the relaxed approach no lock downs etc.
If that turns out to be a thing to do herd immunity I assume that is what they are aiming for quickly get the population immuned by the relax mode we will see if it works if it does I’m going to be questioning the lock down approach no doubt.

the cases has been mentioned to have doubled in a week across the globe, so it won’t take long to see a change in Sweden either it will be nothing or something.
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Thank you so much for sharing this...with all the sensational reporting about what's going on in NYC, and coronavirus ravaging nursing homes here in Canada, I wasn't even aware that Sweden was adopting a "business as usual" approach....which in my non-expert opinion is the proper course....so if I'm wrong, then the Swedish government is also acting in so called Cov-Idiot fashion by not hyperventalating over this virus.

Sweden should provide a good test case of how sucessful mitigation ultimately is....if the fear mongering is justified, then Sweden will have a much higher death toll per capita than other nations. If it ends up being in-line with other countries then we'll know this was an overreaction.

Here's the story as reported by Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/traver...ronavirus-fear-so-low-in-sweden/#132591613870
 
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StrugglingTilMyReward said:
Thank you so much for sharing this...with all the sensational reporting about what's going on in NYC, and coronavirus ravaging nursing homes here in Canada, I wasn't even aware that Sweden was adopting a "business as usual" approach....which in my non-expert opinion is the proper course....so if I'm wrong, then the Swedish government is also acting in so called Cov-Idiot fashion by not hyperventalating over this virus.

Sweden should provide a good test case of how sucessful mitigation ultimately is....if the fear mongering is justified, then Sweden will have a much higher death toll per capita than other nations. If it ends up being in-line with other countries then we'll know this was an overreaction.

Here's the story as reported by Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/traver...ronavirus-fear-so-low-in-sweden/#132591613870
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Welcome, I agree the Sweden’s take on the wait and see approach it will be telling one way or another, unlike China which I think they are hiding the amount just doesn’t seem correct out of 1.6 biiilon and under 82 thousand cases seems hard to believe.

then there is that no smoking gun yet on its origin that leaves me a tad not 100% it wasn’t engineered rather got out or something else.
 
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JamOn said:
Sweden will be the country to watch, they are going the relaxed approach no lock downs etc.
If that turns out to be a thing to do herd immunity I assume that is what they are aiming for quickly get the population immuned by the relax mode we will see if it works if it does I’m going to be questioning the lock down approach no doubt.

the cases has been mentioned to have doubled in a week across the globe, so it won’t take long to see a change in Sweden either it will be nothing or something.
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Well they better have a robust healthcare system with an unknown virus this is risky.
 
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Well they better have a robust healthcare system with an unknown virus this is risky.
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I’ve read they do have a good healthcare system but it’s a russian roulette with two chambers type of approach at the moment there is not enough info or data on it yet to take a wait and see but I hope I’m wrong and they make the world think twice about virus pandemics and how to approach them.
 
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I’ve read they do have a good healthcare system but it’s a russian roulette type of approach at the moment there is not enough info or data on it yet to take a wait and see but I hope I’m wrong and they make the world think twice about virus pandemics and how to approach them.
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It really is...... but I agree it will be interesting how they fair.
England was on that path and pulled back... herd immunity makes a lot of assumptions around how many are infected and how many will require critical care.

Once the system is overloaded, there will be no turning back.... it may very well be tragic.
 
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JamOn said:
Welcome, I agree the Sweden’s take on the wait and see approach it will be telling one way or another, unlike China which I think they are hiding the amount just doesn’t seem correct out of 1.6 biiilon and under 82 thousand cases seems hard to believe.

then there is that no smoking gun yet on its origin that leaves me a tad not 100% it wasn’t engineered rather got out or something else.
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I don't trust the data out of China at all....I really don't care about the case rate, because testing is woefully inadequate everywhere, there aren't enough test kits. The only figure I'm really viewing as having a decent level of reliability is death figures...and again with China, I'm not even looking because I think there's a high probablity that they've overreacted....

We'll see what happens, but I'm glad to see that a well educated western nation has a gov't that seems to agree with my attitude....confirmation bias is something we're all guilty of, its part of human nature.
 
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StrugglingTilMyReward said:
I don't trust the data out of China at all....I really don't care about the case rate, because testing is woefully inadequate everywhere, there aren't enough test kits. The only figure I'm really viewing as having a decent level of reliability is death figures...and again with China, I'm not even looking because I think there's a high probablity that they've overreacted....

We'll see what happens, but I'm glad to see that a well educated western nation has a gov't that seems to agree with my attitude....confirmation bias is something we're all guilty of, its part of human nature.
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Well China is known to control media it is a communists country I can’t really trust a communist country which it’s own doctrine is to control people tell them what they can and can’t do especially information about the government the Chinese are extremists when it come to government, right now China is on media lockdown nothing is going in or out of China basically just on the virus cases and other things like China is back to work etc. people in china are being screened on cell phones a bunch of accounts have been canceled and a whole lot of things like that why are the Chinese locking down media and screening everything in or out on media. That is pointing to hiding something in my opinion, and communist don’t like to tell, look at North Korea I’m I to believe there is zero cases in North Korea next door to South Korea yea right.

I think there is a amount of people that have had it yet hasn’t been tested or it was a month ago and it’s not in their system anymore so can the data really be 100% I doubt that.

I haven’t heard much on the 45 minute test is that out yet?
 
JamOn

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StrugglingTilMyReward said:
Excellent point...operative word being "known", the real case count has to be many multiples of that....
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Yes I can agree with that also with recovery cases mild cases and death cases, if this started in China three months ago and if the reports are right it’s real hard to contain, then is there 1,500 to 3,000 dying in China everyday among 1.6 billion might be but that can’t be rightfully determined only by what the Chinese government is saying they have.

How many heart attacks have happened in America and tested for coronavirus, I think every death in a hospital should be tested for the virus or comes through a morgue, who knows if a heart attack can happen even with someone who has no symptoms at all but the heart attack.
 
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News coming out it can effect other organs not just the lungs per say and is it creating no cough or sneezes no fever just a failed liver who knows.
 
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Yes I can agree with that also with recovery cases mild cases and death cases, if this started in China three months ago and if the reports are right it’s real hard to contain, then is there 1,500 to 3,000 dying in China everyday among 1.6 billion might be but that can’t be rightfully determined only by what the Chinese government is saying they have.

How many heart attacks have happened in America and tested for coronavirus, I think every death in a hospital should be tested for the virus or comes through a morgue, who knows if a heart attack can happen even with someone who has no symptoms at all but the heart attack.
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They would not have enough test kits for that I do not think... so we may likely never have the true numbers.
 
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so pleased to see awoken people here. Its a huge hoax, speak to share traders and ask them whats going on here. Boy do they have a tale to tell. Its a huge hoax to set the world up for the next phase. And the MSM is heavily involved in it. They are deliberately scaring people and making them comply .
 
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so pleased to see awoken people here. Its a huge hoax, speak to share traders and ask them whats going on here. Boy do they have a tale to tell. Its a huge hoax to set the world up for the next phase. And the MSM is heavily involved in it. They are deliberately scaring people and making them comply .
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Share traders? :D

How about doctors and all front line workers, how about you listen to the paramedics scanners... several people on CC have talked about people they know that have tested positive.

So every hospital in the world is in on this hoax, do you even realize what you are saying... wow step out of the conspiracy matrix it is messing with your mind.
 
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EleventhHour said:
They would not have enough test kits for that I do not think... so we may likely never have the true numbers.
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I’ve read there was talk about it back in dec 3, I don’t think it happened in Dec. I think it was months before the chinese government actually contacted the WHO and the world about it. this could have already been in a lot of places, when was the first testing done outside of china was probably too late anyhow.

I’ve read there was a government whistle power in wuhan that hasn’t been seen or heard from who might of been the reason China contacted The WHO in late December the cat was out of the bag they couldn’t contain it any longer but that doesn’t mean their not going to deny any cases today I can’t believe that their track record isn’t all that good.
 
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I woked at ... ummm...think it was like 7 something?

I am still woked

I will be woked till after 11 pm I believe

yes

could be anywhere from 11 to 2.

but, if it is 2, I will not be as woked as I should be the next day :giggle:
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
I woked at ... ummm...think it was like 7 something?

I am still woked

I will be woked till after 11 pm I believe

yes

could be anywhere from 11 to 2.

but, if it is 2, I will not be as woked as I should be the next day :giggle:
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Funny...deserves and few more laughy faces.....:D:D:D
 
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someone should start a thread

'show us your bitmoji's'
 
JamOn

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Gregoryp said:
so pleased to see awoken people here. Its a huge hoax, speak to share traders and ask them whats going on here. Boy do they have a tale to tell. Its a huge hoax to set the world up for the next phase. And the MSM is heavily involved in it. They are deliberately scaring people and making them comply .
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Do you mean the 52,800 deaths so far up to now also? in about few minutes it will be 53
 
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