Minnesota Shooting (Lets Start Over)

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JosephsDreams

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Hey Dude, for a second there I thought my computer had a virus !
 
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The majority of the noisiest Blacks here in St. Petersburg endeavor to make certain that a distinction is fully recognized and maintained between the white Northside, and the Black Southside. In fact, we have one lawyer (Black) whose predominate theme in his TV advertising is the slogan, "Your Southside Lawyer."

This is not a white thing. The Blacks seem to insist on it. Every one of their local leaders promotes this separation in most of their public appearances.
I don't want to keep bringing up racism because this thread is about Philando Castile being shot by Jeronimo Yanez.

Let me just say that I don't see a problem with Black folks promoting their distinctive accomplishments, talents, social organizations, styles, music, etc. After all, Black Americans are still stereotyped and disregarded in a huge percentage of our media advertising, television shows, movies and fashion industry. Therefore, if a particular group of citizens neglect to represent them equally, what is so wrong with them creating representation for themselves?

Personally, I hate segregation and don't want to be excluded from my Black brothers and sisters' circle of fellowship and their social groups which contribute greatly to our society. But I don't blame them for a second for having to establish their own criteria when the predominately White controlled media doesn't consider them equally.

Thanks for letting me state my views.
 
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JosephsDreams

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"Black Americans are...disregarded in a huge percentage of our media advertising, television shows, movies and fashion industry."

AA, I agree with all of your post, but not this statement. I think considering the percentage of the population that black Americans are, they are represented quite well in the areas you mentioned. In fact, off the top of my head, with not ever looking it up, I would bet blacks have a representation in these areas (maybe not fashion, but that may even be close) that is about equal to their population percentage of the country, or maybe even more so.
 
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I'm going to risk something here.... but what the Hell?

Last night, we wanted some chicken.... takeout. So, off I went to our local chicken place, Po Folks. We love it, and the clientele is about 50/50........ (removed) eat the big bird, too.

Do I have to tell you that I was a bit apprehensive? To say the least. I walked in, and I was the only (removed) (old man) picking up. The other 5 were black women. You could tell what was on all our minds, it was so thick in the air, you could have cut it with a knife. But, I had already made up my mind that I was going to be my usual jovial self. (I really AM nice at times).... and perhaps they had too.

It wasn't long before all of us (we had about a 10 minute wait) were laughing and joking. Sure, we all kept it light and steered clear of THE subject, but at least it was good to see that none of us felt we had to push an agenda.
 
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WarriorForChrist

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I love Popeye's Chicken.
 

tourist

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I'm going to risk something here.... but what the Hell?

Last night, we wanted some chicken.... takeout. So, off I went to our local chicken place, Po Folks. We love it, and the clientele is about 50/50........ Honkies eat the big bird, too.

Do I have to tell you that I was a bit apprehensive? To say the least. I walked in, and I was the only white boy (old man) picking up. The other 5 were black women. You could tell what was on all our minds, it was so thick in the air, you could have cut it with a knife. But, I had already made up my mind that I was going to be my usual jovial self. (I really AM nice at times).... and perhaps they had too.

It wasn't long before all of us (we had about a 10 minute wait) were laughing and joking. Sure, we all kept it light and steered clear of THE subject, but at least it was good to see that none of us felt we had to push an agenda.
The wife and I have eaten at Po Folks quite a few times. Good food and good peeps. "Love that chicken from Popeye's." Well, at least it starts with Po. Good chicken too. Prefer the spicy.
 
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I don't want to keep bringing up racism because this thread is about Philando Castile being shot by Jeronimo Yanez.

Let me just say that I don't see a problem with Black folks promoting their distinctive accomplishments, talents, social organizations, styles, music, etc. After all, Black Americans are still stereotyped and disregarded in a huge percentage of our media advertising, television shows, movies and fashion industry. Therefore, if a particular group of citizens neglect to represent them equally, what is so wrong with them creating representation for themselves?

Personally, I hate segregation and don't want to be excluded from my Black brothers and sisters' circle of fellowship and their social groups which contribute greatly to our society. But I don't blame them for a second for having to establish their own criteria when the predominately White controlled media doesn't consider them equally.

Thanks for letting me state my views.
But, I am not talking "accomplishments." Here in St. Pete it seems important to declare we are HERE, and this is OUR part of the town... you guys don't belong down here.

Of course, that unifies instantly. What a warm feeling you can sense flooding over both sides of town.

You can holler about "the past" all you want, but you don't hear that kind of talk from any segment of our city's populace (except for a few dumb Rednecks) in this day and age....... and even most whites don't give much credence to our own trailer trash.... as they are also almost proud to call themselves.
 
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You should stay away from that for now...
Now, THAT is fraught with all sorts of implied implications.... (is that really a correct phrase?) and I'm getting a kick out of all of them my sick imagination is conjuring up.
 
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Sirk

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I think these "facts" are irrelevant to Philando Castile's death. It's a great discussion to have, but highly inappropriate when talking about this incident.

It's like turning the conversation of rape into alcohol abuse on college campuses. Yes, we know alcohol is a problem, but having the conversation when talking about a rape is highly inappropriate. Rape is unjustifiable. Once rape is addressed/properly handled, then it would be fair to discuss the problem with alcohol, independently of rape.
I see your position by my friend. I just think it is seldom discussed but should be. I wish the msm would report on it to provide some balance to the discussion. The truth is I hate when anyone does because it is sad that a life gets cut short or falls short of it's potential.
 

Dude653

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It's kind of a catch-22 because whenever there is an encounter with the police officer and African-Americans then right away both parties are suspicious and mistrustful of each other. Possibly both of them fear for their lives. One wrong move and someone could die. I wish I had a solution but I do not
 

JosephsDreams

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I believe the group that has more responsibility for where we are at now, how we came to this place, is the group who had, has more power.
Like Uncle Ben said, "with great power comes great responsibility."
 

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I believe the group that has more responsibility for where we are at now, how we came to this place, is the group who had, has more power.
Like Uncle Ben said, "with great power comes great responsibility."
Ah, but there are different kinds of power are there not? It's rather easy to mistake the victim for the aggressor, the weak for the truly powerful, the mover for the moved.
 

Desdichado

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I think the reason why there is even an issue is that crime has become profitable for cops and the government. Prisons became privatized and the war on drugs was just making something illegal (and profitable for the law) that people have been naturally doing since ancient times. Of course they are always going to do it. I say make crime unprofitable for cops and the government again.Most of the distrust that black people have for cops stems from the fact that most cops are looking for profitable crimes to accuse black people (and really, ANY people) of to get that cut-back anytime there is interaction between the two groups.Kill these things and you kill the root cause for violence between the two factions in my opinion. Any interaction will be straight to the point and not exploratory.
Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.
 

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Sirk; said:
These are the facts that no one wants to talk about and our current president ignores. It is why black and Hispanic populations are disproportionately high in the prisons.


Racial/ethnic selective enforcement of the law is the reason why minorities are in so much higher numbers in prison:


Cases and controversies: Racial disparities in law enforcement practices : SCOTUSblog

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2009/race-and-roads





there are many hundreds of such links available on google - if this was done in the suburban areas the politicians would put a stop to it immediately
 
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Racial/ethnic selective enforcement of the law is the reason why minorities are in so much higher numbers in prison:


Cases and controversies: Racial disparities in law enforcement practices : SCOTUSblog

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2009/race-and-roads





there are many hundreds of such links available on google - if this was done in the suburban areas the politicians would put a stop to it immediately
thats one way to spin it. The other is that there is more crime to be found in inner city neighborhoods. And many of them are black populations. Police go where the crime is. And often when a shooting occurs theses officers are on edge because the have plenty of negative experiences to cause them to be on edge when the pull Joe Schmoe over.
 

Dude653

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I know not all cops are bad. In fact most of them are probably good but let's not even try to pretend that there are not those who abused their Authority. And the bad ones are making it harder for the good ones to do their job