Obama's Twitter Calls Crushing Of 20-week Unborn Babies Heads "Special"

[pickles]

I find it ironic that the defence of abortion is all about choice.
I remember watching my 12week daughter in the womb choose to suck her thumb, she also decided she did not like the ultrisound, so began kicking it away.
And she was also a gymnist in the womb, quite active and sencetive to all in and out of her enviroment.
But back to the choice thing, the vary same who cry out a womans right of choice for abortion, are the same who have decided we cannot make the right choice and have banned supersizing and big gulps.
I find it ironic that those in goverment that use the choice argument, in the next breath say we cannot make the right choices so they will make them for us.
Life is, its not about wether it can survive outside the womb or not, for we could not survive if we had any life sustaining need removed from us.
One is living, or one is dead, it is that simple.
The moment that this was made subject to the debate we see each day, it began to kill.
Wether because of faith or not? We as christians are appointed in faith to witness in Jesus to truth.
Because anything less will be interpited as aproval.
Its not about telling someone what they can or cannot do, it all about witnessing to the truth in Jesus, for the sake of life, wether in flesh or eternal.
Its not about a right to choose, it is all about life!

God bless
pickles

 

[1still_waters]

I find it ironic that the defence of abortion is all about choice.
I remember watching my 12week daughter in the womb choose to suck her thumb, she also decided she did not like the ultrisound, so began kicking it away.
And she was also a gymnist in the womb, quite active and sencetive to all in and out of her enviroment.
But back to the choice thing, the vary same who cry out a womans right of choice for abortion, are the same who have decided we cannot make the right choice and have banned supersizing and big gulps.
I find it ironic that those in goverment that use the choice argument, in the next breath say we cannot make the right choices so they will make them for us.
Life is, its not about wether it can survive outside the womb or not, for we could not survive if we had any life sustaining need removed from us.
One is living, or one is dead, it is that simple.
The moment that this was made subject to the debate we see each day, it began to kill.
Wether because of faith or not? We as christians are appointed in faith to witness in Jesus to truth.
Because anything less will be interpited as aproval.
Its not about telling someone what they can or cannot do, it all about witnessing to the truth in Jesus, for the sake of life, wether in flesh or eternal.
Its not about a right to choose, it is all about life!

God bless
pickles

And except in the case of rape/incest, there was already a choice made.
Abortion is about escaping the results of your initial choice.
Ie the liberal motto.
Living life while escaping personal responsibility.

 

[ChristianGuy0]

crushing the heads of 20 month unborn babies...

but then the other side is why are old white men deciding a woman's right to her body based on religious texts? Im not against christianity but it disgusts when people try to force people who dont even believe it to live by it.

Sorry but we force our morals on people every day: When they murder we throw them in jail.

We are in full support of a woman's right to choose what happens to her body.

We do not support a woman's choice to dismember her child's body. Her child's body is not her body and she should not have the right to tear it limb from limb and flush it down the toilet.

Wanting to stop abortion should not be about politics, it's about standing up for children who have no voice and cannot protest being ripped to shreds by the ones in the world who are meant to protect them: Their parents.

And for those who have had abortions but repented: God forgives these sins and you have a future to look forward to in God's Kingdom where the dead will live forever and you can enjoy eternity with your lost child. Praise God.

PS, when I first became a Christian I thought 'pro-choice' was right too. But over time I had to accept the reality that abortion is in fact murder.

 

[Agricola]

Well its all part of the evil things being seen as good and what is good is seen as bigoted evil.

If people want to murder their unborn children, then let them get on with it and let them pay the price for it when God deals with them.

This filibustering is part of the processes of seperating church from state maybe. After all its Christiains who are getting on the main push of anti-abortion laws based on Christian beleif and not science.

Science tells us in its wisdom that a few blobs of cells is not sentient life , they also say that even after several months, the baby is still not proper human yet, so its ok to kill it. However God says otherwise, not to mention that from moment of conception the baby is created on a spiritual level with a spirit, but of course thats all nonsense to most.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy....

The world's great civilizations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back again into bondage."
...
Alexander Tyler (ca.1770)

http://www.bartleby.com/73/425.html

 

[megaman125]

I'm pretty sure Christians in places of political power should be pushing for laws the line up with God's Word. Christians being supportive of things that go against God is like the kings in the OT who allowed and supported the worship of false gods, which caused all sorts of consequences.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I'm pretty sure Christians in places of political power should be pushing for laws the line up with God's Word. Christians being supportive of things that go against God is like the kings in the OT who allowed and supported the worship of false gods, which caused all sorts of consequences.

The decline of morality (e.g. the tearing apart of the moral fibers that once held them together) played a significant role in ancient Rome's collapse as the domains of wealth, force, sex, and speech deteriorated.

Towards the end, only two classes remained: the rich and the poor. And, they hated each other. The poor leeched off government collecting welfare entitlements and free food. When Julius Caesar began the Roman tradition of doling out free food to those who needed it only 320,000 people showed up.

Near the end, two-thirds of the entire population of Rome did. But the rich also leeched off government. The wealthy upper classes were very powerful politically and manipulated the government for profit while Emperors sought their favor by reducing their taxes and shifting the burden to poor farmers.

The Roman Salvian wrote,

"...Who can find words to describe the enormity of our present situation? Now when the Roman commonwealth, already extinct or at least drawing its last breath...is dying, strangled by the cords of taxation... still a great number of wealthy men are found, the burden of whose taxes is borne by the poor..."

In ancient Rome, morality declined, the social fabric tore apart (e.g. massive immigration of peoples who had no loyalty to the Roman Empire nor shared its values), as class warfare bankrupted the government.

Sound familiar?

 

[Elizabeth619]

Someone mentioned Roe vs. Wade earlier. Here is some more updated information about Jane Roe. 'Roe' Wants Abortion Case Reversed - CBS News

The former plaintiff known as "Jane Roe" in the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court case that legalized abortion sought to have the case overturned in a motion filed Tuesday that asks the courts to consider new evidence that abortion hurts women.

Norma McCorvey, who joined the anti-abortion fight nearly 10 years ago and says she regrets her role in Roe v. Wade, said the Supreme Court's decision is no longer valid because scientific and anecdotal evidence that has come to light in the last 30 years has shown the negative effects of abortion.

"We're getting our babies back," a jubilant McCorvey said at a news conference while flanked by about 60 women, some who sobbed and held signs that read "I regret my abortion."

"I feel like the weight of the world has just been lifted off my shoulders," said McCorvey, 55.

Sarah Weddington, the abortion advocate and attorney who originally represented McCorvey, did not immediately return a call seeking comment. A representative from the National Organization for Women also did not immediately return a message.

Allen Parker Jr., McCorvey's attorney, said he could not remember any other landmark case in which the plaintiff has asked to have it overturned.

"I think the new evidence will show the court what they thought was good will turn out to be an instrument of wrong," said Parker, who is with the San Antonio-based Texas Justice Foundation.

McCorvey filed the motion with the federal district court in Dallas, which ruled to legalize abortion in Texas before the Supreme Court ruling. The Texas attorney general's office and Dallas district attorney each have 20 days to respond to the motion.

McCorvey and her attorneys asked the federal court to consider more than 5,400 pages of evidence, including 1,000 affidavits from women who say they regret their abortions.

McCorvey was a 21-year-old carnival barker when, pregnant for the third time, she sought an abortion. She agreed to be the plaintiff in a lawsuit seeking to overturn Texas' anti-abortion statute.

The Supreme Court decision came after she had the baby. It was the third child she put up for adoption. McCorvey publicly identified herself as Jane Roe in 1980.

© 2009 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

 

[Nautilus]

how about just worry about your own kids everyone? Worry about your own lives? Worry about your families? Stop focusing on how everyone else is living around you, they arent the ones that will get you into heaven.

 

[DragonSlayer]

So you don't care about your own life ? Really ?

Nope I wouldnt have. And if I had been aborted? well i probably wouldnt have cared much.

 

[DragonSlayer]

Look, I'm going to be blunt. If you're a christian how can you be pro-abortion, it's contrary to the word of God. God doesn't care if you're politically correct, so why should you care about being politically correct?

Well said !

 

[DragonSlayer]

Really? Tell me, what's your " stronger God " name ?

You don't need to answer . I already guessed who is your " stronger God ".

My LORD is INFINITELY more powerful than your fallen " stronger God " !

you realized if a baby leaped in its mothers womb, it would probably result in serious medical issues and possibly death right? Also infants dont even have the motor skills to leap.

And are you saying abortion doctors are ruining the plans God has? Sounds like your God is a lot weaker than mine.

 

[DragonSlayer]

The Lord is not a dictator ! He gave free will to all human beings and when some human beings make bad choices, they just reap the consequences of their own foolishness !

Also, there's no such thing as " symbolism and such " about the Scriptures. The Lord's Word has to be taken extremely seriously, and not as an extremely awful sodomite joke ! To say an " inconvenient " quote or another is " symbolic and such " does not come from the Light, but comes from darkness ! It's a demonic way to censure the Lord's Word !

But the Lord's Word is Eternal and is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow !

So an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent God has his plans beaten but stupid human decisions? Your logic there is questionable.

And you do realize some parts of the Bible are not to be taken literally right? You know symbolism and such?

 

[Nautilus]

So you don't care about your own life ? Really ?

uhhh lets think about this, if i had been aborted, i wouldnt have had a life to care about. So its a completely impossible to answer hypothetical. What would never existing be like? I don't know. Probably not a lot of concern involved with not existing though.

 

[zone]

uhhh lets think about this, if i had been aborted, i wouldnt have had a life to care about. So its a completely impossible to answer hypothetical. What would never existing be like? I don't know. Probably not a lot of concern involved with not existing though.

oh you existed.
safe and being knitted together in the womb by God.
until some psychopath you say is normal chopped you into pieces while alive.
stuck a pick in the top of your skull and threw you in a bucket.

after that who knows where you went.

Nautilus, i'm so glad we don't know each other in real life.
i don't like you and you'd really not like meeting me.

 

[Nautilus]

Really? Tell me, what's your " stronger God " name ?

You don't need to answer . I already guessed who is your " stronger God ".

My LORD is INFINITELY more powerful than your fallen " stronger God " !

So because I believe in a God who is stronger the human choices as far as furthering his own plans go Im satanic...nice illogical correlation.

 

[Nautilus]

oh you existed.
safe and being knitted together in the womb by God.
until some psychopath you say is normal chopped you into pieces while alive.
stuck a pick in the top of your skull and threw you in a bucket.

after that who knows where you went.

Nautilus, i'm so glad we don't know each other in real life.
i don't like you and you'd really not like meeting me.

Well since I would never be conscious of the life I live now, i still probably wouldnt care. You appealing to things I have experienced as if they would have been a part of me during said abortion and I would actually have a level of things to miss.

As far as meeting you in person I am highly doubting i would hate the experience, I rather enjoy meeting new people.

 

[megaman125]

how about just worry about your own kids everyone? Worry about your own lives? Worry about your families? Stop focusing on how everyone else is living around you, they arent the ones that will get you into heaven.

Worry about my own life and not anyone elses? That's sounds a bit selffish to me. "Care about me and no one else" was my policy before I was a Christian. That policy leads to a really dark road. I started caring about other people when I became a Christian, and I'm certainly not about to stop. Jesus did the same thing.

 

[Nautilus]

notice i included families and kids. Mostly just stop trying to be up in thers lives. Does it really affect you if say jim and steve down the block live together? No it honestly doesn't. The two of them being in a relationship has not one single solitary effect on your life. Unless of course you obsess on it, then you have your own issues.

 

[megaman125]

How about you obsessing on Christians who view homosexuality as sinful? You seem to obsessively oppose them. No Christian is marching down to jim and steve's house, using a battering ram on their front door, and forcing them to do or not do anything. We simply hold a view that sin is wrong. It doesn't matter if they're believers or non-believers, sin is still sin, and sin is still wrong.