Obama's Twitter Calls Crushing Of 20-week Unborn Babies Heads "Special"

[Nautilus]

Especially since the special part was probably more in line with one person who believes in what they believe enough to stand and talk for 13 hours on it, no food, no drinks, no bathroom breaks. Id like to see some of the people here do the same.

 

[Nautilus]

You don't have to be a Christian to believe someone with human dna, human head, human heart, human heartbeat, should have the right not to have their head crushed and body dismembered.

You dont but prolife is one of modern christianity's big two laws they want to see implemented. An they really dont care who gets inconvenienced from them.

 

[1still_waters]

You dont but prolife is one of modern christianity's big two laws they want to see implemented. An they really dont care who gets inconvenienced from them.

Sadly, pro-choicers think in order to not be "inconvenienced" you can crush the heads of 20week or older unborn babies and dismember their bodies.

 

[acesneverwin]

[video=youtube;dWSMaeDLF0E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWSMaeDLF0E[/video]

I'd like to someone to point out the time in the video when life magically appears. Seems like life is in full swing from the start and once it takes even the tiniest shape and has a heart beat, it's way too late but this is still an acceptable time to get an abortion... disgusting. I don't care if you're Christian or not.... I don't see the difference between killing it then and when it's 7 years old. I'm sure many non Christians agree too.

 

[1still_waters]

The pro-choicers have totally lost their minds.

They believe two consenting people can choose to have sexual relations.
But if a pregnancy results from it, they're all like..."Oh my goodness I didn't see that coming! I have the right to escape the result of my free choice by having an abortion!"
Then if someone dares object, they accuse the objector of being ignorant on reproduction.
Which is silly, because pro-choicers are more ignorant on reproduction. They seem shocked that a pregnancy may arise from having sex.

(Of course I'm not talking about rape or incest. Don't play the extenuating circumstances card to justify all abortions.)

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

At the moment of conception forward.

I'll ask again.

At which point does something with human DNA, a human brain, a human heartbeat controlled by that human brain, have a right not to have their head crushed and body dismembered?

 

[Nautilus]

The pro-choicers have totally lost their minds.

They believe two consenting people can choose to have sexual relations.
But if a pregnancy results from it, they're all like..."Oh my goodness I didn't see that coming! I have the right to escape the result of my free choice by having an abortion!"
Then if someone dares object, they accuse the objector of being ignorant on reproduction.
Which is silly, because pro-choicers are more ignorant on reproduction. They seem shocked that a pregnancy may arise from having sex.

(Of course I'm not talking about rape or incest. Don't play the extenuating circumstances card to justify all abortions.)

I think this might be one we just agree to disagree. You do not support abortion and personally im indifferent towards it, but also dont want to see it banned.

 

[Stephen63]

Again I technically don't believe life begins until birth...so if life doesnt begin till then what are you killing? Life certainly doesnt begin at conception in my mind, and I admit birth maybe a bit extreme to the other side as well. Which is why I settle with my happy medium of fetal viability.

You also don't need to worry about whether or not im a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-separation of church and state, pro gun-law, anti-death penalty, etc, etc, etc christian. Thats only between God and I.

Luke 1:39-44 (KJV)
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; [SUP]40 [/SUP]And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth. [SUP]41 [/SUP]And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: [SUP]42 [/SUP]And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. [SUP]43 [/SUP]And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? [SUP]44 [/SUP]For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

John the Baptist was filled with the Spirit while still in his mother's womb. He responded by leaping for joy. Since God is a God of the living, he was indeed alive.

Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

If God is the same with everybody (I believe He is), that means every abortion kills somebody God knows & already has plans for. Scripture trumps personal beliefs.

 

[1still_waters]

You dont but prolife is one of modern christianity's big two laws they want to see implemented. An they really dont care who gets inconvenienced from them.

This whole line of reasoning from the pro-choice side about "inconvenience" is rubbish.

If two people aren't willing to deal with the "inconvenient" result of having sex, then they shouldn't have sex.
You can't choose to have sex, then avoid the "inconvenient" results by saying you have the right to crush a baby's head, because doing otherwise would inconvenience you. If you don't want to be "inconvenienced", then don't engage in activities that have results that may "inconvenience" you.

And again, this line of reasoning doesn't apply to rape/incest, considering they never had a choice.So please don't play the extenuating circumstance card to justify those who did have a choice.

 

[Nautilus]

Luke 1:39-44 (KJV)
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; [SUP]40 [/SUP]And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth. [SUP]41 [/SUP]And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: [SUP]42 [/SUP]And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. [SUP]43 [/SUP]And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? [SUP]44 [/SUP]For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

John the Baptist was filled with the Spirit while still in his mother's womb. He responded by leaping for joy. Since God is a God of the living, he was indeed alive.

Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

If God is the same with everybody (I believe He is), that means every abortion kills somebody God knows & already has plans for. Scripture trumps personal beliefs.

you realized if a baby leaped in its mothers womb, it would probably result in serious medical issues and possibly death right? Also infants dont even have the motor skills to leap.

And are you saying abortion doctors are ruining the plans God has? Sounds like your God is a lot weaker than mine.

 

[Nautilus]

This whole line of reasoning from the pro-choice side about "inconvenience" is rubbish.

If two people aren't willing to deal with the "inconvenient" result of having sex, then they shouldn't have sex.
You can't choose to have sex, then avoid the "inconvenient" results by saying you have the right to crush a baby's head, because doing otherwise would inconvenience you. If you don't want to be "inconvenienced", then don't engage in activities that have results that may "inconvenience" you.

And again, this line of reasoning doesn't apply to rape/incest, considering they never had a choice.So please don't play the extenuating circumstance card to justify those who did have a choice.

So Im going to assume youre against plan B as well? Even though its impossible to know yet at that time whether or not you are pregnant?

 

[Stephen63]

you realized if a baby leaped in its mothers womb, it would probably result in serious medical issues and possibly death right? Also infants dont even have the motor skills to leap.

And are you saying abortion doctors are ruining the plans God has? Sounds like your God is a lot weaker than mine.

I realize God's word is true....... no matter how it's written.
I'd say murder probably affects a lot of God's plans.....
Weaker? No, but definitely different....... that's for sure.

 

[Nautilus]

I realize God's word is true....... no matter how it's written.
I'd say murder probably affects a lot of God's plans.....
Weaker? No, but definitely different....... that's for sure.

So an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent God has his plans beaten but stupid human decisions? Your logic there is questionable.

And you do realize some parts of the Bible are not to be taken literally right? You know symbolism and such?

 

[1still_waters]

So Im going to assume youre against plan B as well? Even though its impossible to know yet at that time whether or not you are pregnant?

I'm not familiar with the science of Plan B.
What does Plan B do?

 

[jerusalem]

if you are a christian you need to follow scripture when taking your stand on this issue. if your position is not in agreement with the word of the God that you profess to believe you are in error and fighting against the Almighty. if you do not know what the word of God says then it is time to get your bible and find out.

 

[Stephen63]

So an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent God has his plans beaten but stupid human decisions? Your logic there is questionable.

And you do realize some parts of the Bible are not to be taken literally right? You know symbolism and such?

Well, it does seem you want to argue, & there's something about you that is different in the past several months..... so I'm going to let this go........

 

[Nautilus]

I'm not familiar with the science of Plan B.
What does Plan B do?

Plan B is an after-sex emergency contraceptive meant to be taken within 72 hours to prevent pregnancy.

 

[GRA]

I've never been a big subscriber of the life at conception argument, and I'm sure someone will quote Bible verses at me about how God formed us and such,, that may be but not a single one of those is convincing enough for life at conception for me.

Again I technically dont believe life begins until birth...so if life doesnt begin till then what are you killing? Life certainly doesnt begin at conception in my mind, and I admit birth maybe a bit extreme to the other side as well. Which is why I settle with my happy medium of fetal viability.

People ask the question - "When does life begin in the womb?" -- and, most will not ever even guess the correct answer:

Life never "begins" in the womb. It is already present in the very much alive Sperm and Egg - which then combine DNA from each to form a new "being" with his / her own unique identity.

A new being with a unique identity "begins" in the womb.

Life is there the whole time...

"Food for thought..."

 

[Graybeard]

It defies logic that one can claim to be "Christian" yet deny life that God gives.

 

[Elizabeth619]

you realized if a baby leaped in its mothers womb, it would probably result in serious medical issues and possibly death right? Also infants dont even have the motor skills to leap.

And are you saying abortion doctors are ruining the plans God has? Sounds like your God is a lot weaker than mine.

You do realize that a baby cannot be conceived by immaculate conception don't you? Yet, it happened.
Your argument is invalid dude.