U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates

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Mitspa

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The people who elected her want to have a same sex marriage and she is REFUSING them.
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I think your just guessing...what evidence do you have of that? I would suggest that all evidence suggest that the folks in her community support her stand against this nonsense ...but that's why we have elections , so the people can speak. She is representing the people that elected her. The constitution and God righteous standards.
 
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jsr1221 said:
By saying she should have quit her job because her boss wanted her to do something that was against her Biblical principles, that must mean I am approving sin... Just like how I say we need to uphold God's law in all things, and not pick and choose, that is me approving sin... You keep thinking that. Because you and I are going to continue doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. You know what that is? Insanity.
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No your pointing to one sin to suggest that she should approve another...that's what your clearly doing in my view ...and her boss is the people, the constitution and her God...not a court or a bunch of left wing perverts.
 
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No your pointing to one sin to suggest that she should approve another...that's what your clearly doing in my view ...and her boss is the people, the constitution and her God...not a court or a bunch of left wing perverts.
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Right because I've clearly said I approve for gay marriage, even though I've constantly said I don't. How does that work, exactly? Sounds like something from the movie Inception. Mind is blown.
 
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Mitspa said:
I think your just guessing...what evidence do you have of that? I would suggest that all evidence suggest that the folks in her community support her stand against this nonsense ...but that's why we have elections , so the people can speak. She is representing the people that elected her. The constitution and God righteous standards.
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Mitspa...if you go back to the beginning of the thread... Kim Davis's Public statement is included in the OP, also there are publications listing the FACTS for the entire issue. I have tried to show you some of the details which I thought you might not know. Honestly, It is pretty astonishing to me that YOU and I are not in agreement because usually we are. I do think if you are willing to back up some and investigate the issue a little more... that your final conclusion will probably be at least "CLOSER" to mine vs very opposed as it stands now.
 
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Right because I've clearly said I approve for gay marriage, even though I've constantly said I don't. How does that work, exactly? Sounds like something from the movie Inception. Mind is blown.
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So you don't...so this lady don't...so why suggest she should by pointing to divorce as if that has any bearing on this sin..unless that's what your trying to do?
 
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So you don't...so this lady don't...so why suggest she should by pointing to divorce as if that has any bearing on this sin..unless that's what your trying to do?
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Because she had no problem going against the Bible by allowing marriages to divorcees that had divorces based on non Biblical principles.. Which is a sin.. But because the person sinned, the fact a person can continue marrying and divorcing and then marrying and divorcing on and on and on and on... That's okay with you because it's between a man and woman.
 
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Mitspa...if you go back to the beginning of the thread... Kim Davis's Public statement is included in the OP, also there are publications listing the FACTS for the entire issue. I have tried to show you some of the details which I thought you might not know. Honestly, It is pretty astonishing to me that YOU and I are not in agreement because usually we are. I do think if you are willing to back up some and investigate the issue a little more... that your final conclusion will probably be at least "CLOSER" to mine vs very opposed as it stands now.
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This is cut and dry for me...there is no place for me to say that this lady should act against the constitution or her conscience as a Christian ...she is paying the price for upholding righteousness ..that part of the deal and I say she is blessed for being brave enough to take on these wicked and lawless people.
 
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This is cut and dry for me...there is no place for me to say that this lady should act against the constitution or her conscience as a Christian ...she is paying the price for upholding righteousness ..that part of the deal and I say she is blessed for being brave enough to take on these wicked and lawless people.
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...okay then... end of discussion.
 
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Because she had no problem going against the Bible by allowing marriages to divorcees that had divorces based on non Biblical principles.. Which is a sin.. But because the person sinned, the fact a person can continue marrying and divorcing and then marrying and divorcing on and on and on and on... That's okay with you because it's between a man and woman.
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So what..if you believe that? that don't mean she should approve more sin...right? that's my point with you folks who want to point to one sin to justify another...its silly and unbiblical logic.
 
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So what..if you believe that? that don't mean she should approve more sin...right? that's my point with you folks who want to point to one sin to justify another...its silly and unbiblical logic.
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How is it justifying when you're saying it's all wrong and she should have had issues with those as well as gay marriage, and should have had that mindset from the get go? You saying what hasn't been said, that is unbiblical logic.
 
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How is it justifying when you're saying it's all wrong and she should have had issues with those as well as gay marriage, and should have had that mindset from the get go? You saying what hasn't been said, that is unbiblical logic.
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because at the end of your logic...your saying she must approve one sin because you point to another sin...you think she approves.... your pointing to sin to approve or justify that she must approve more sin.
 
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because at the end of your logic...your saying she must approve one sin because you point to another sin...you think she approves.... your pointing to sin to approve or justify that she must approve more sin.
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Nowhere did I say or even apply she must approve gay marriage.. My point has been clear but you keep saying I'm approving sin. I'm getting sick and tired of you saying this. I'm leaving this thread now.
 
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Nowhere did I say or even apply she must approve gay marriage.. My point has been clear but you keep saying I'm approving sick. I'm getting sick and tired of you saying this. I'm leaving this thread now.
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so now your saying she should not approve this ..no matter what.... I agree
 
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so now your saying she should not approve this ..no matter what.... I agree
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I've said this all along! You REALLY need to learn reading comprehension.
 
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I've said this all along! You REALLY need to learn reading comprehension.
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Good then she is right to stand against this..and deserves our respect for her courage to stand for what is right :)
 
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BarlyGurl said:
I think you mean to apply this philosophical logic to civil laws.... so what philosophical logic is applied to GOD's Laws.
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If you read the article, the context would have it make sense.
To apply it in it's context to a biblical backdrop the concept of 'fairness in judgement" would come to mind.
 
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BarlyGurl said:
The people who elected her want to have a same sex marriage and she is REFUSING them she is not DIS-regarding God by doing her job... she would be disregarding GOD if she went to a same sex wedding or made one herself..
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A 'same sex marriage' is not a marriage, period.
How can she approve of a marriage that isn't one?
 
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A 'same sex marriage' is not a marriage, period.
How can she approve of a marriage that isn't one?
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For the Nth time.... her job is to verify the civil law recording requirements have been met for contracts/registrations/titles/ conveyances etc.,.... applying her signature to any document merely "certifies" she has ensured the document is being properly filed.... no matter WHAT kind of document it is.
 
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BarlyGurl said:
For the Nth time.... her job is to verify the civil law recording requirements have been met for contracts/registrations/titles/ conveyances etc.,.... applying her signature to any document merely "certifies" she has ensured the document is being properly filed.... no matter WHAT kind of document it is.
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You've seen trying to say this hasn't worked, and I don't think it's going to, unfortunately. Soon enough you're going to have people saying stuff you never said or never implied. It's wise to let it go and save your time and energy.
 
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