U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates

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Mitspa

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For the Nth time.... her job is to verify the civil law recording requirements have been met for contracts/registrations/titles/ conveyances etc.,.... applying her signature to any document merely "certifies" she has ensured the document is being properly filed.... no matter WHAT kind of document it is.
No ...her job is not to verify laws that are unconstitutional or based in lawlessness and wickedness...
 

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For the Nth time.... her job is to verify the civil law recording requirements have been met for contracts/registrations/titles/ conveyances etc.,.... applying her signature to any document merely "certifies" she has ensured the document is being properly filed.... no matter WHAT kind of document it is.
For her to sign her name on a 'Marriage Certificate" to what she deems as a non marriage would be sin on her part.
I have said n[SUP]nth [/SUP]times that the rules changed (her contract) while serving her term under different rules, and that should not be held against her. She should be allowed to at least finish her term under the original contract when she was elected.
 
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You've seen trying to say this hasn't worked, and I don't think it's going to, unfortunately. Soon enough you're going to have people saying stuff you never said or never implied. It's wise to let it go and save your time and energy.

Yep... been there done that... still driving around the same parking lot...lol!;)
 
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I hope she runs again on the platform that she will never approve this stuff...bet she would win in a landslide...she might go to jail...but big deal :)
 
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Yep... been there done that... still driving around the same parking lot...lol!;)
You guys have been very fair...wrong but fair for the most part :) Glad we can disagree and still be respectful
 

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You guys have been very fair...wrong but fair for the most part :) Glad we can disagree and still be respectful

Wrong by saying be an actual Christian and follow everything the Bible says, rather than a lukewarm Christian and only some parts of the Bible you feel that's compelling that you and others are advocating? A smiley doesn't change the fact you display a heavy load of passive aggressiveness, Mitspa... Ohh, and one more thing... :)
 
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For her to sign her name on a 'Marriage Certificate" to what she deems as a non marriage would be sin on her part.
I have said n[SUP]nth [/SUP]times that the rules changed (her contract) while serving her term under different rules, and that should not be held against her. She should be allowed to at least finish her term under the original contract when she was elected.
well Crossnote... instead of argueing your position with me... when I have already stated I am not going to BUDGE... How about you go bail her out of jail and act as personal mediator to HELP HER get what you think she ought to have???? That would be FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE than trying to convince me GOD approves of this scenario.... seriously put some real effort into DOING what you think is RIGHT vs just talking about it.
I look forward to hearing your testimony about the matter when you get back:D
 
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Wrong by saying be an actual Christian and follow everything the Bible says, and not a lukewarm Christian that you and others are advocating? A smiley doesn't change the fact you display a heavy load of passive aggressive, Mitspa... Ohh, and one more thing... :)
Well there goes the fairness ... and the respectful discussion :(
 
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well Crossnote... instead of argueing your position with me... when I have already stated I am not going to BUDGE... How about you go bail her out of jail and act as personal mediator to HELP HER get what you think she ought to have???? That would be FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE than trying to convince me GOD approves of this scenario.... seriously put some real effort into DOING what you think is RIGHT vs just talking about it.
I look forward to hearing your testimony about the matter when you get back:D
The judge would not set her a bail...do you not think that millions could not been raised to bail her out?
 

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Well there goes the fairness ... and the respectful discussion :(

Respect? What respectful conversation? It's respectful of you continuing to say something as ridiculous as me saying I was approving of sin, when I said from the original post I was against it? That is respect in your eyes?
 
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Mitspa

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Respect? What respectful conversation? It's respectful of you continuing to say something as ridiculous as me saying I was approving of sin, when I said from the original post I was against it? That is respect in your eyes?
Look your logic was flawed...you cant excuse or promote one sin by pointing to another... you cant say this woman must approve this perversion because people have gotten divorced ..that's false logic and very unbiblical
 

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Look your logic was flawed...you cant excuse or promote one sin by pointing to another... you cant say this woman must approve this perversion because people have gotten divorced ..that's false logic and very unbiblical
And there you go again, saying that I said she must approve a sin.. You just don't learn.
 
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And there you go again, saying that I said she must approve a sin.. You just don't learn.
That's what you was doing ...even if you don't want to admit it. that's not a personal attack against you that's a rebuke of your logic ...
 
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The judge would not set her a bail...do you not think that millions could not been raised to bail her out?
I thought we were agreeing to disagree and end the discussion? There is NO BAIL because she is in jail for CONTEMPT OF COURT... she has refused to comply with the order of authority she is under.... as ordered by GOD's order.... and while she SURELY has a HUGE number of supporters for her mis-guided beliefs.... I am not the least bit ashamed to say... I hope GOD HIMSELF keeps her in jail and under pressure until she relents and acknowledges her mistake. Time will tell... <shrug>
 

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That's what you was doing ...even if you don't want to admit it. that's not a personal attack against you that's a rebuke of your logic ...
No. That's just what you want to believe. I don't care what you think. Because I'm unsubscribing from this thread now. Don't bother responding to my post, because I'm not going to take a look. Let me save you a few extra minutes.
 
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I thought we were agreeing to disagree and end the discussion? There is NO BAIL because she is in jail for CONTEMPT OF COURT... she has refused to comply with the order of authority she is under.... as ordered by GOD's order.... and while she SURELY has a HUGE number of supporters for her mis-guided beliefs.... I am not the least bit ashamed to say... I hope GOD HIMSELF keeps her in jail and under pressure until she relents and acknowledges her mistake. Time will tell... <shrug>
Yes and God bless her :) she will never have to worry about a job again in her life...folks who respect her stand will make sure she always has what she needs in this life and she will be upheld in the Christian community all the days of her life.... even tho she is in jail now...she is a true American hero and will be honored :)
 
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This lady has hit the jackpot ....
 

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well Crossnote... instead of argueing your position with me... when I have already stated I am not going to BUDGE... How about you go bail her out of jail and act as personal mediator to HELP HER get what you think she ought to have???? That would be FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE than trying to convince me GOD approves of this scenario.... seriously put some real effort into DOING what you think is RIGHT vs just talking about it.
I look forward to hearing your testimony about the matter when you get back:D
I have given to her legal support and prayer. Thx for my lost reward :)
 
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But clerks have been affixing their names to marriage certificates in violation of God's word regarding adultery FOR YEARS!!! Why is this a "sudden" moral conviction... that homosexuality is MORE sinful than adultery... please show me the scriptures that support that? Anyone???
well Crossnote... instead of argueing your position with me... when I have already stated I am not going to BUDGE... How about you go bail her out of jail and act as personal mediator to HELP HER get what you think she ought to have???? That would be FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE than trying to convince me GOD approves of this scenario.... seriously put some real effort into DOING what you think is RIGHT vs just talking about it.
I look forward to hearing your testimony about the matter when you get back:D
Besides, what a joke. I am the original poster and who was the first to post in response and a rebuttal at that? And now you act like I am arguing my position with you? PLEEEEZEE.
 
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Besides, what a joke. I am the original poster and who was the first to post in response and a rebuttal at that? And now you act like I am arguing my position with you? PLEEEEZEE.
Fine... I seem to recal having a running dialogue going with you until it was clear you and I were not going to agree. I also recall you saying ENOUGH! Which I respected aside for asking clarification to your use of a philosophy which I found VAGUE, got and answer I also thought VAGUE and then you interjected and re=engaged me while I was discussing with Mitspa.... so to assert I am somehow a JOKE for participating in your thread is... kinda LOWBROW IMO.... but go ahead and PLEASE yourself.
I am done discussing with you on the matter also.
 
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