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CanadaNZ

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Jonathanbchristian is a direct kind of guy and always has been. You should know that by now if you have read any of his posts. He is no respecter of persons or sex and if you don't like what he says he really doesn't care. You can't fault a guy for that and what he said is true in most cases, but there are some other factors to be considered. He did not say that to attack anyone and if you don't think he was being sensitive, send him a pm instead of being p____off. Sometimes I think God does these kind of things just to let others see who is living by faith or living in the flesh.
Don't enable him, he needs to learn that God is love and you can be truthful without being a total idiot and heartless jerk.
 
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Don't enable him, he needs to learn that God is love and you can be truthful without being a total idiot and heartless jerk.
Who inflamed you? Your just reacting in the flesh and you have others supporting you in that. Maybe someone needs to give you a little pablum and burp you before you get indigestion again and have another tantrum. But that is what we expect from those that are babes in Christ and have to live on milk all the time because they have never grown up.
 
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iraasuup

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Who inflamed you? Your just reacting in the flesh and you have others supporting you in that. Maybe someone needs to give you a little pablum and burp you before you get indigestion again and have another tantrum. But that is what we expect from those that are babes in Christ and have to live on milk all the time because they have never grown up.

Okay, that was a little harsh and uncalled for! I happen to know CanadaNZ is a very godly man, perhaps he is simply reacting out of frustration... and bear in mind, you have no idea what he has been through in his personal life either, and perhaps this topic is quite pertinant for him too! Food for thought.

However, if you cannot agree to disagree without lowering one another and questioning peoples faith, please refrain from commenting at all.
 
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CanadaNZ

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Who inflamed you? Your just reacting in the flesh and you have others supporting you in that. Maybe someone needs to give you a little pablum and burp you before you get indigestion again and have another tantrum. But that is what we expect from those that are babes in Christ and have to live on milk all the time because they have never grown up.
I am reacting with righteous anger to insensitive way men treat their sisters on here, who are daughters of God. What do you think God feels it? He is upset as I am. I would tell off my own brother if he treated our sisters that way.
 
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Okay, that was a little harsh and uncalled for! I happen to know CanadaNZ is a very godly man, perhaps he is simply reacting out of frustration... and bear in mind, you have no idea what he has been through in his personal life either, and perhaps this topic is quite pertinant for him too! Food for thought.

However, if you cannot agree to disagree without lowering one another and questioning peoples faith, please refrain from commenting at all.
His faith is not in question, just his reaction and if he is in a bad place and living in the frustration of his flesh then he has the cross where he can go and get crucified in his experience. He might be a godly man but not this time, so there's some meat for you to chew on. My hope and prayer for you is this, that you and your husband be reconciled to God and to one another, whatever that might take in the plan of God for both of you. When I first read your post and learned of your separation I was inwardly broken and grieved. You may not believe that but it's true.
 
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I am reacting with righteous anger to insensitive way men treat their sisters on here, who are daughters of God. What do you think God feels it? He is upset as I am. I would tell off my own brother if he treated our sisters that way.
He makes one statement and you go ballistic. That is alot of presumption on your part.
 
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CanadaNZ

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His faith is not in question, just his reaction and if he is in a bad place and living in the frustration of his flesh then he has the cross where he can go and get crucified in his experience. He might be a godly man but not this time, so there's some meat for you to chew on. My hope and prayer for you is this, that you and your husband be reconciled to God and to one another, whatever that might take in the plan of God for both of you. When I first read your post and learned of your separation I was inwardly broken and grieved. You may not believe that but it's true.
I am not in a bad place or some other excuse someone might give. I am honestly frustrated and grieved by the way the men treat the women on here. If I said something like that to my sister, I guarantee she would hit me and I would deserve it.
 
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iraasuup

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His faith is not in question, just his reaction and if he is in a bad place and living in the frustration of his flesh then he has the cross where he can go and get crucified in his experience. He might be a godly man but not this time, so there's some meat for you to chew on. My hope and prayer for you is this, that you and your husband be reconciled to God and to one another, whatever that might take in the plan of God for both of you. When I first read your post and learned of your separation I was inwardly broken and grieved. You may not believe that but it's true.

Thank you. Reconcilliation is sadly not an option though, hence my whole complicated situation and the pain that goes with it.

You have to understand, I'm trying to remain objective here. I'm not offended by anyones opinion, and everyone has a right to their own opinion, but I do think we should be mindful of others, especially when we dont know the intricate details of their situation.

That being said, as a Moderator, I do have duty of care to step in when I see a thread getting a bit personal unneccesarily. So, just asking everyone to please be careful of the comments you make to others. I did feel as though the comment you made about 'being a baby Christian and needing milk' .. or whatever, was borderline a personal attack, and very uncalled for/
 
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AnandaHya

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Okay, just looking for opinions on how I should handle this.

I am recently separated and have moved across the country and have just started attending a new church.

I've been going there a couple of months now and I love it, but I have only met a handful of people, and am obviously still finding my place there and meeting new people all the time.

The past couple of times I have been there, I have noticed this one particular guy who keeps smiling at me and making eye contact. Now maybe he's just being friendly, who knows, but it's kind of awkward for me. He is often on stage (part of worship team) and he has made eye contact from there a few times, and if I walk past him or see him from a distance he seems to always smile at me. Last week I got out of my car, walked three steps towards the building and he was outside with some other guys in a group talking, I had to walk past them, and he smiled again.

Now, as I said, he might just be a smiley-kind of guy, but, if he is not.. then what should I do? I obviously don't want to be rude, it's polite to smile and acknowledge someone if they do to you, but if I make an obvious effort to smile back, and he isn't 'just being friendly'.. am I then giving him a wrong signal? If I don't want to give him a wrong signal, I could just ignore him and pretend I haven't noticed, but that would be rude, and I don't want to give the impression I'm stuck up and rude.

Soooo what should I do? I have no idea about the inner-workings of the male mind (even though I was married for 7 years)..but my instinct is he isn't just being friendly, his attempts seem somewhat deliberate, although he has never actually spoken to me.

So, girls what would you do in this situation? Guys, what SHOULD I do? Guys, if you were making an effort to smile and acknowledge a girl and she noticed and acknowledged u back.. would you assume she was interested, or just being polite and firendly?
Its America, you can normally smile back without guys following you to your hotel room. If you were in Germany or Italy, I would say keep walking and not smile back because it would send the wrong message. I found that out the hard way. If you are ever in Italy ask the young men or just women for directions, the older ones tend to get creepy. Personally I just smile at everyone and be friendly, eventually they figure out I'm not interested by the clueless look (or now shocked or repulsed look) on my face when they try and ask me out. lol.

thoughtless perhaps but I personally think we should treat all other Christians as brothers and sisters and the thought of my brother asking me out is kind of gross. If I didn't greet my brother he would get mad.
 
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iraasuup

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Haha, it's actually Australia, but thanks :)
 
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AnandaHya

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Haha, it's actually Australia, but thanks :)
lol well if I ever visit Australia... can I smile at the guys or will they take it the wrong way?

Anyone know if I'm allowed to smile in South Africa?

I'm not very good at keeping a straight face, so most of the time I just walked with someone so the creepy guys wouldn't follow me home.....
 

Oncefallen

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**thinks it's a good time to get the thread back on topic instead of continuing the derailment topic of the comments made by a couple of people**

I agree with Zero that Iraasuup has biblical grounds to remarry once the marriage is dissolved if she chooses to.

Katie, by all means if this man chooses to strike up a friendship with you let him know your circumstances
ASAP. Likewise I defer to my advice in a prior thread to keep your friendships with men to a minimum for the time being since you are in an emotionally vulnerable condition.
 
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adekruif

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To me it sounds like this guy is doing what every girl on here says to do, and that is act on the way he feels. Like OnceFallen said let him, befriend the guy, but let him know your situation and i'm sure he will understand. :)
 

Stuey

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To me it sounds like this guy is doing what every girl on here says to do, and that is act on the way he feels. Like OnceFallen said let him, befriend the guy, but let him know your situation and i'm sure he will understand. :)
Maybe..... Depends on how Godly the guy is. I think the desire to take advantage - or perhaps help in an extremely unhelpful way - Can be very close to the surface for many guys. I know what I'm like...
 
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rainacorn

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If you spent all of your 20s married, then there's something you may have forgotten about-

dudes hit on fine lookin' ladies...like all the time.

Just because someone likes you doesn't mean you are obligated to date them. Say thank you, be flattered, express that you're not interested and then go about your day feeling awesome and beautiful.

HIS intent is irrelevant. This is not a dilemma.
 
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I noticed no one applied the old school method of keeping men in church at bay. If you can handle the idea, wear your wedding ring! When & if he waves back at you, wave with your left hand. If he's looking for signals, he will see that one pretty clearly. If he continues after that, he's obviously a player & then you can brush him off. The direct approach isn't rude, if done with the right spirit. Also, MATURE christian men usually don't play such a smiley game, do they? I would think a mature christian would already be getting info on you before showing the "I'm interested" look.
 
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If you spent all of your 20s married, then there's something you may have forgotten about-

dudes hit on fine lookin' ladies...like all the time.

Just because someone likes you doesn't mean you are obligated to date them. Say thank you, be flattered, express that you're not interested and then go about your day feeling awesome and beautiful.

HIS intent is irrelevant. This is not a dilemma.
Fine lookin' ladies? Where??
 
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I noticed no one applied the old school method of keeping men in church at bay. If you can handle the idea, wear your wedding ring! When & if he waves back at you, wave with your left hand. If he's looking for signals, he will see that one pretty clearly. If he continues after that, he's obviously a player & then you can brush him off. The direct approach isn't rude, if done with the right spirit. Also, MATURE christian men usually don't play such a smiley game, do they? I would think a mature christian would already be getting info on you before showing the "I'm interested" look.
I'm going to guess it's been a while since you played the field. As a single man, there is no getting information first. You just got to test the waters. As far as her wearing the wedding ring, while that is a personal decision, doing it just to ward off Mr. Smiley seems dishonest.
 
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adekruif

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Maybe..... Depends on how Godly the guy is. I think the desire to take advantage - or perhaps help in an extremely unhelpful way - Can be very close to the surface for many guys. I know what I'm like...
You make a good point! Ttaking into account the OP's age, and assuming the guy is around the same age, I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt. I know not every one "grows up" but I was assuming this guy had. If this guy hasn't "grown up" then he obviously isn't worth the OP's time.