For the People Who Champion Lifetime Singleness - What's Your Advice for Dealing with Single Sexuality?

[Dymes]

1. I will not sin again, last dat of sin for me,Do not sine now, apart from sayin dear lord, what is wrong with people/the world. Using his name in vain, because of expewssions from the secular world.

2. God can get angry, we cannot. Jesus had rightous anger. And I have planned to not deal with moneylenders after I pray.

3. OK, will pray forgiveness for all sins, even those I were not awere of as an atheist or buddhist.

4. You can find God before Christ, sorry, personal expirieince. And people can read the old testament and become christian before reading the new testament.

5. Good advice to read from start to finish. I am not doing that now. Skipping around. Later I will get a chronological biblething, put together in the correct timeline.

6. We agree about Jesus being God incarnate. The metaphysical manifestation, and the personality he showed us is important. Disagree on some of the rest. Not the only important one. The old testtament is important, and he points to that. Jesus is really only telling us how to act in this world, to our fellow man, to keep the peace. You have the parth to God in the old testament iff you were a stranded atheist on a desolate island, with only the old testament as reading material. 3:16 is important, I live that one, I recited than one at my confirmation. I would not require salvation to believe in God, and live right.I started out being christian, believing I was going to hell, and was at peace with that. Will still go to hell untill I pray. Still peace. Religion is not about getting something out of it personally, like avoiding hell.

7. I am not afraid of hell as said, just a detail that is not important to me. The point is only to be truthful to God at judgement day. Then he judge as he does. And I have to abide by it without getting upset.I have not read about the pharasis yet. Sounds like somethink I should read, since you say God called them the sons of satan. I hold the 10 commandments, but those are not the big sins, apart from killing and stuff, those are laws for man on earth, to keep the peace, more than laws to hold to God. It is pride, gluttony, hate,etc,, that we must avoid to be worthy of God. And allowed to enter the kingdom of heaven. A heart thing.Abiding by laws is one thing, can do it without changing your heart. But you cannot fool God by pretending to not have pride, gluttony, hate, etc. I agree on sacrifice of sheep is voided after God laid his life down for us.

Yes, much to read, simple and complicated at the same time

1. 1 John 1:8-9 says, "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." This clearly says you are deceiving yourself and that you will sin again. When you do repent.

2. We agree to disagree on the anger thing.

3. Amen

4. I don't understand how you can find God before Jesus if they are one in the same. You may read of God in the Old Testament before you read of Jesus but that's different. If it wasn't for Jesus Christ there wouldn't be a such thing as a Christian. Even the word "Christian" is named after Him and it was never heard of until He came to Earth.

5. Agreed

6. I could be wrong, but you seem to believe you can just make a decision to be Christian just as you make a decision to put on a shirt. That's far from the truth if that's what you believe. I do agree the Old Testament could lead men to God who lived before Jesus. I'm just saying today there's nothing in the Old Testament that can save a man after the day Jesus died on the cross. If the Old Testament could save us Jesus wouldn't have come.

7. In order to get to heaven you have to be perfect. Perfect from the day you were born. If you kept every law God gave from this day forth, you still wouldn't qualify for heaven. Or you could be perfect from birth but sin one time and you will not qualify for heaven. James 2:10 said if you break one law you guilty of all. You can avoid pride, gluttony, and hate all you want and you still won't be worthy of God. On judgment day you will say I did this and I did that and Jesus will say I never knew you Matthew 7:22-23. I think now I see why you don't know why Jesus is so important. It's because you don't seem to understand the gospel rightly. I could be misunderstanding you though.

 

[mindfulzen]

1. I do not think I sin anymore, apart from the occasional anger and stress. And lust of course, I still watch pornography. I am not working on that yet. For later. I did not say I was perfect, because I am far from it. And as I said, I have not given my life over to God yet, have not asked to join, will read more before I do that. Unless trials in life makes me do it sooner of course. I am a slow reader, I never really read books before.

2.OK, we can disagree on anger.

3. Yes, amen

4. I always knew the Jesus stories from school, movies, documentaries, etc, so somewhat awere. But I think I should read it for myself, movies tend to gloss over stuff that is not so positive, and sometimes alter details to make it more marketable. As opposed to Mel Gibson.That became a big fuzz, was one with William Dafoe that was also controversial. I have not seen theese ones, but clearly there is disagreements among folks. I just found God first because some heathen sinners spoke some wise words that I learned christian values from, universal truths. And I watched conservative news, with almost 100% christian people, and they threw out verses, and biblical questions of the week for 10 years, do something with you. Or however long7-8 years. As a former atheist who watched debates with atheists and christians, and other faiths, they mostly spoke of God, not about Jesus, so that is why. Atheists do not focus and blame Jesus, so I always liked Jesus as they do, a really good person. But they focused on God, and hated him. Maybe I unconciously accepted Jesus first, because as an atheist, I believed he did exist, since secular historians have agreed that it was an actual person, not just a tale, because of artifacts, the shrine, tomb, etc. And I started with a black minister online, who made the distinction, so pointed me to God.

5. Thumbs up.

6. I do not want to say you got me wrong, because you are partly correct, and I do not want to judge you.I never decided to become christian, I never sought it, it just happened to me. I never revealed it to anybody, people found out, and there came conflict with it. So now I just wear that shirt proudly. Which I am conflicted about, because it is pride, but it is pride in God I figure, and standing up for the faith, not denying it, which is also a sin. So not personal pride, so I think that is not a sin, but I am not sure yet. Jesus is of course monumental, and essential for most christians. But technically, I do not think he would be a must for me, since I wait with praying till I know more, and will pray after I am without sin, and will stay that way forever. And should I fail after that, chances that I go to hell is big. Which is not a problem or burden to bear, since I entered it just assuming I would go to hell. I had spent 15-20 being a blaspheming atheist missionary, why would I ever be allowed into heaven after that? I just accepted that and pursued faith still to learn more, and I got some strength eventually.Some when my faith was attacked, some with healthissues, some withwanting to help others get out of some mess I had created, so steps, do not really know when I became a christian, is it when you start to believe but not act it out? Is it when you are marked by the holy spirit and get a calm, lose fears? Or is it after you make the pray and ask to join? I believe I am at step two, and I have been allowed to join, so christian accepted. But have not prayed, so not heaven material yet.

7. I am not yet perfect, so not heaven material yet. By born, I think you mean born again, I am not yet born again, that is the problem. I do not understand the rest of this point. Please reformulate if it is important. It seems like this point tells me that I will go to hell. I was not perfect from birth, I never believed till I was in my thirties. And your point kind of tells me it is mission impossible to get to heaven, I do not currently belive this. No worries about giving me bad news, this does not shake me or my faith. If I am not worthy, I am not worthy, that is fine. I just want to learn before actively praying. The judgement is not mine to take, I can only prepare for the judgement and do my best. So I do not worry about that issue.I do not have that fear.

Was long, cut your reply, and I must say that you are a great resource to have, very knowledgable on issues, I learn a lot. Even though we disagree on some issues. If I understand your point of view and you have verses I should read, and I read the entire book it is from, I might change my view. But I do all in context now, no standalone verses almost.

 

[Dymes]

Oh ok, I'm getting a better understanding of what's going on with you. Sorry for the long responses, it's just so much you are missing. Your whole view of Christianity is taken from people in the media and others who don't truly study the scriptures.

It does not matter how bad you were before you became interested in God. Apostle Paul use to hunt and kill Christians before God saved him. Remember what I said about God being a merciful judge. He will forgive your past present and future sins if you are born again.

This will be the most important thing I say. If you do not understand this PLEASE let me know.
To become a Christian is to be born again. Which means God will change you. He will take your old spirit out and put the spirit of Christ in you. You will become more aware of Gods laws. You will seek to know more about him, your mindset about sin and hell will change. You will become convicted about these things. Its called regeneration. Its the beginning of changing the man by changing the heart or mind of the man. Now i will present the gospel to you. You must understand you are a sinner and transgressed Gods law. Understand that because you sinned against a Holy God you must pay the price, which is hell. Because of this you need a savior to save you from Hell and pay the price for you. Jesus Christ is that savior. He lived a sinless perfect life on Earth because we could not. When Jesus was on the cross God laid the sin of humanity on Him. Jesus bore our sins. Gods full wrath was laid on Jesus meaning He took our full punishment. Just before Jesus died He said it is finished John 19:30. The payment had been made. We were bought at a price 1 Corinthians 6:20. He bought our salvation or you can say our ticket to heaven. So now If you repent of your sins and trust in this work of Jesus dying on the cross for your sins, God will take the righteousness that Jesus earned by living a perfect life, and He will give it to you. Meaning He will take your old spirit out and insert Jesus Christ spirit in you. Therefore God will see you as perfect on judgement day. An impossible situation made Possible!

If you want to hear more about what it is to be a Christian listen to this. It's an hour but it's worth it.
https://www.gracechurch.org/sermons/16914

If you want to hear the gospel presented clearly check out Ray Comforts videos

Again let me know if this makes sense.

 

[mindfulzen]

Oh ok, I'm getting a better understanding of what's going on with you. Sorry for the long responses, it's just so much you are missing. Your whole view of Christianity is taken from people in the media and others who don't truly study the scriptures.

It does not matter how bad you were before you became interested in God. Apostle Paul use to hunt and kill Christians before God saved him. Remember what I said about God being a merciful judge. He will forgive your past present and future sins if you are born again.

This will be the most important thing I say. If you do not understand this PLEASE let me know.
To become a Christian is to be born again. Which means God will change you. He will take your old spirit out and put the spirit of Christ in you. You will become more aware of Gods laws. You will seek to know more about him, your mindset about sin and hell will change. You will become convicted about these things. Its called regeneration. Its the beginning of changing the man by changing the heart or mind of the man. Now i will present the gospel to you. You must understand you are a sinner and transgressed Gods law. Understand that because you sinned against a Holy God you must pay the price, which is hell. Because of this you need a savior to save you from Hell and pay the price for you. Jesus Christ is that savior. He lived a sinless perfect life on Earth because we could not. When Jesus was on the cross God laid the sin of humanity on Him. Jesus bore our sins. Gods full wrath was laid on Jesus meaning He took our full punishment. Just before Jesus died He said it is finished John 19:30. The payment had been made. We were bought at a price 1 Corinthians 6:20. He bought our salvation or you can say our ticket to heaven. So now If you repent of your sins and trust in this work of Jesus dying on the cross for your sins, God will take the righteousness that Jesus earned by living a perfect life, and He will give it to you. Meaning He will take your old spirit out and insert Jesus Christ spirit in you. Therefore God will see you as perfect on judgement day. An impossible situation made Possible!

If you want to hear more about what it is to be a Christian listen to this. It's an hour but it's worth it.
https://www.gracechurch.org/sermons/16914

If you want to hear the gospel presented clearly check out Ray Comforts videos

Again let me know if this makes sense.

Good stuff, positive. Paul is essential, I also persecuted christians by going after their faith, by mocking. So attacking the faith. I have read the corinthians, do not get what you get from it. I get that Jesus points to god still. I and you have work to do still. Not free.I do not want to tell you, you are wrong, but Jesus was manifested to teach us how to treat eachother, not to hand out a freepass, making us feel good about sinning. It is never finished, you were given a lifelong commitment. I do not repent yet as I said, will do it later in the autumn after reading some more. Not ready yet.

 

[Dymes]

Good stuff, positive. Paul is essential, I also persecuted christians by going after their faith, by mocking. So attacking the faith. I have read the corinthians, do not get what you get from it. I get that Jesus points to god still. I and you have work to do still. Not free.I do not want to tell you, you are wrong, but Jesus was manifested to teach us how to treat eachother, not to hand out a freepass, making us feel good about sinning. It is never finished, you were given a lifelong commitment. I do not repent yet as I said, will do it later in the autumn after reading some more. Not ready yet.

Concerning the Corinthians, are you talking about when I said Paul was talking about their church and how they were sinning? If so reread 1 Corinthians 5. The very first verse says "It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife." He goes on to rebuke them.

God gave us the 10 commandments thousands of years before Jesus came. Those laws and the priest of that time told us how to treat each other. Jesus came and fulfilled the laws Matthew 5:17. He lived out those laws perfectly because He was perfect. So just by living a perfect life it shows imperfect people what a righteous life look like.

These verses tell the main reason Jesus came:

1 Timothy 1:15 of "The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.”

Hebrews 9:26 for then He (Jesus) would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.”

John 3:16-18 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

You are right, Jesus did not give us a free pass. It's a life for a life. He will give you His eternal life when you give Him your temporary life. Remember I said He will place His spirit within you and this will cause you to act and think differently. This is when the process of sanctification begins. You will become more aware of your sins and you will seek to put them to death because of your love of Christ. You began a road to perfection on this earth, but you will only achieve true perfection once you die and be received into heaven.

 

[herkamer63]

This one's tough to explain for myself, but I'll give it a whirl:

So where I'm at right now, I'm no longer trying to pursue women. Turned out, all along, if I wanted to get into any potential relationships, I shouldn't, as they say, simp over them. It makes you look desperate and weak, and all the while easy to be controlled and manipulated. It may appear as if I'm trying to lure women in, but in reality, I'm not.

There are so many women out there that are difficult to even start a relationship with. Even when there may be a few that want to, I've seen, read, and heard of men being used for their resources rather than being with another woman because they legitimately like each other for who they are. There have been cases where if a man is simply trying to ask a woman out, the female being asked will dismiss them as weirdos/creeps and start spreading false rumors about the guy who asked her. I've been a victim of this, and it's not a good feeling at all.

When I was in my 20s, I can think of two women I asked out:

-The first one was about two years after high school, and I had known her since middle school. We played in band and orchestra together, and we always got along well. I figured, at the time, I'd ask her out, she'd say 'yes'. But every time that happened, she stood me up, except one time. I thought things went great, and on her social media account she said she was in a relationship. I asked her out again and she told me she'd have to look at her schedule. After that, she said we shouldn't be seeing each other any more. I was noobie, at the time, in the dating game and I didn't understand why.

A mistake I made was I went over to her place and her sister was home, not her. I didn't go in and she had told me that this woman said that she didn't want to talk to me anymore. I left torn apart inside because not only she wanted nothing to do with me, but also she threatened to call the authorities on me and put into place a restraining order, even though I didn't do anything that would put her into danger or anything of the sort. I found out later, from her ex-bf from high school that she ran around with a bad crowd after they broke up and did the same thing with a mutual friend of ours and other guys. She also did some less than admirable, ungodly things during their time in high school. I told him my story, of course, and told me, other than one mistake I made, I wasn't the problem at all.

It was her, and she had started, among her circle of friends, that I was a horrible person. How do I know this? Well, I got a message from one of the other guys she must have been seeing asking what happened. I did and I told him I was done with her, then he told me "well, okay, just don't talk to her." And that was it. She had accused me, and the mutual friend, of being a stalker, a creep, and a weirdo, even though none of that was true. So there's that story.

-This other story is not as severe, but didn't feel good, nonetheless. I've asked out a few other women but they either stood me up or gave me the "I don't know" answer, which nothing happens. I've only ever had one 'no' answer and that was because she had a bf. One stood up story revolved around a woman I knew when she had worked at one of my favorite places to eat. We got along well, and I needed an extra ticket I got to a concert filled. I asked her if she wanted to go and she told me 'yes.' I told the time and place, and that we would be meeting up with my brothers and friends. She agreed to go.

The day came and everyone had shown up, but the woman I asked out. Called her to see where she was at, and she had told me that she was at a church and forgot about going to the concert. So she didn't go and I was not happy about it at all during the night. The next day comes around and we tried to make a plan for a later lunch. Again, she agreed. However, later on, she backed out and admitted she had a bf, so she couldn't go through with it. I was disappointed, but I gave up on trying to convince her and said that it was okay and told her goodbye.

A few years later, I ran into her on the street, while she was with a group of her friends, and we greeted each other. When I walked by her, she said my name, said a few less than appropriate names, and they were all laughing silently. It happened a few more times when I saw her while I was going out, but every time, I hear the same snickering, like I'm the butt of the jokes whenever I'm around. I haven't spoke to her for a few years, and, honestly, I have no desire to any time soon.

I have other stories, but these two women alone have made it difficult for me to even go out with women. Not that I haven't tried again after the second woman, but I haven't been in any long term relationships. A lady after the second one turned out to be nothing more than a flirt, the woman I dated had all sorts of personal and psychological issues, and the last woman I asked out couldn't be upfront with me that she was seeing someone. So after all this, combined with the stories I've heard witnessed that had happened to other guys with similar problems, I've been struggling to even decide whether or not if it's even worth trying to be with someone anymore.

The temptation is there, but I'm tired of being made fun of, stood up, falsely accused, and others trying to set me up with women I have no attraction to nor interested in. I just don't like to play these stupid, childish games that should have been left after high school, but for some reason, these insist on continuing them. Sorry if I sound whiny, but I can't put up with that anymore. If a woman is interested in me, they should let me know. No hard to get, the guessing game, nor anything of the sort. Let the 'yes' be yes and the 'no' be no. For now, I'm actually like being single because I can focus on the things I enjoy. I missed out on so much in my 20s and my early 30s, and I feel like I'm playing catch up. If someone comes along and we have a mutual interest in each other, I'll bite. Until then, the single life works well for me.

 

[BryanPaul]

Hey Everyone,

We have a range of opinions about singleness here in the forum -- some people very adamantly want to get married, while some very adamantly want to remain single, and some people are in between -- which seems perfectly normal. I would say that for myself, I would fall into the in-between category -- how about you? I think God calls us all to different situations, with no one-size-fits-all answer.

It's a great question and one i feel compelled to answer as my own experience is i think somewhat unusual and might provide some different insight.
In my 20's i played in rock bands and was fully engaged with living a sex,drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. So was everyone else of my age i knew and so, it seemed, was the whole city where i lived at that time. When i eventually got bored with that, and as i'd been raised Christian, my mind turned to spirituality to help me change my ways.
In my 30's i lived in spiritual communities, retreat centers and monasteries where we were sincerely practicing renunciation of worldly concerns and desirous attachments, celibacy was part of the moral code.
Towards the end of that decade i found myself bouncing from strict retreat settings to hanging out with friends in the city who were still living the party lifestyle and inevitably i ended up going from one extreme to the other, until i realised the only option, for my health and sanity, was to renounce those friends too.
Then, after living alone for a while and also doing a few more long meditation retreats, i realised that my sexual desire had gone, along with a number of other worldly desires. i was no longer "practising" anymore, it had just become the norm for me and not something i have to think about.
I have now been celibate for 10 years. It can take a while but worldly attachments can be extinguished, however strong they may be and despite societal pressures. In addiction psychology there is a phenomena called "extinction bursts" which is useful to know about when wishing to give up something, it basically means that after a time of abstinence the addiction will attempt one last big but short-lived spike before giving in, get through those and the attachment is greatly diminished.

 

[mindfulzen]

Concerning the Corinthians, are you talking about when I said Paul was talking about their church and how they were sinning? If so reread 1 Corinthians 5. The very first verse says "It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife." He goes on to rebuke them.

God gave us the 10 commandments thousands of years before Jesus came. Those laws and the priest of that time told us how to treat each other. Jesus came and fulfilled the laws Matthew 5:17. He lived out those laws perfectly because He was perfect. So just by living a perfect life it shows imperfect people what a righteous life look like.

These verses tell the main reason Jesus came:

1 Timothy 1:15 of "The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.”

Hebrews 9:26 for then He (Jesus) would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.”

John 3:16-18 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

You are right, Jesus did not give us a free pass. It's a life for a life. He will give you His eternal life when you give Him your temporary life. Remember I said He will place His spirit within you and this will cause you to act and think differently. This is when the process of sanctification begins. You will become more aware of your sins and you will seek to put them to death because of your love of Christ. You began a road to perfection on this earth, but you will only achieve true perfection once you die and be received into heaven.

Is not Paul the changed version of Saul, and a changed person doing good? I agree that Jesus lived perfect, I try to emulate. It is not very compatible to a modern life, so it is not easy,

This happens all the time, I try to be like Jesus was, and I get verses out of context to comfort me or something, and tells me that I question Jesus, which I do not. Not that you did that in this coment.. Only point here, is that I read John the baptist, and you snip it before some other crucial points.

The last part really hit home to me, about the sanctification, which is a word I do not know, but it is good I can tell. I feel the spirit today, and I am changed a while back. I just did a perhaps final meeting with a woman I did wrong, and just left with a mess 5 years ago physically. After being mentally absent 3-5 years before that, depending on who of us you ask. She had been asking questions about why it ended as it did, and what did me in for many years, and today I gave her the answers she sought. With a big risk, just choosing faith. This was me picking up my cross, and let her stop carrying which is mine to carry. And we had some laughs again. She did not want to use what I gave her against me. She got her answers regarding drugs and some timelines, as best I could. I was a coward, could not do it before I became solid in my faith.

Perhaps off topic, but as I understand it, the fact that I did this, and offered whatever she wanted to know, that I could give her, this is resolved as far as the lord is concerned, right? So, if it is resolved, and nothing else bothers me too much, I can pray? Trying is enough?Because I will probably not see her again till spring, if ever. I do not travel much especially in winter. Want to pray before christmas. So I can move on to the next sin on the list, and do my best. I kind of get from you that stopping sinning is enough, and I could pray now. Which I do not agree with, if that is what you are saying.

 

[Dymes]

Is not Paul the changed version of Saul, and a changed person doing good? I agree that Jesus lived perfect, I try to emulate. It is not very compatible to a modern life, so it is not easy,

This happens all the time, I try to be like Jesus was, and I get verses out of context to comfort me or something, and tells me that I question Jesus, which I do not. Not that you did that in this coment.. Only point here, is that I read John the baptist, and you snip it before some other crucial points.

The last part really hit home to me, about the sanctification, which is a word I do not know, but it is good I can tell. I feel the spirit today, and I am changed a while back. I just did a perhaps final meeting with a woman I did wrong, and just left with a mess 5 years ago physically. After being mentally absent 3-5 years before that, depending on who of us you ask. She had been asking questions about why it ended as it did, and what did me in for many years, and today I gave her the answers she sought. With a big risk, just choosing faith. This was me picking up my cross, and let her stop carrying which is mine to carry. And we had some laughs again. She did not want to use what I gave her against me. She got her answers regarding drugs and some timelines, as best I could. I was a coward, could not do it before I became solid in my faith.

Perhaps off topic, but as I understand it, the fact that I did this, and offered whatever she wanted to know, that I could give her, this is resolved as far as the lord is concerned, right? So, if it is resolved, and nothing else bothers me too much, I can pray? Trying is enough?Because I will probably not see her again till spring, if ever. I do not travel much especially in winter. Want to pray before christmas. So I can move on to the next sin on the list, and do my best. I kind of get from you that stopping sinning is enough, and I could pray now. Which I do not agree with, if that is what you are saying.

Sir you will never stop sinning. So if that's what you are waiting on you will never pray. Christ said He didn't come for the righteous people, He came for the sinners Luke 5:30-32. He's not waiting on you to be sinless, Hes waiting on you to come to Him as you are. Have you read about the thief on the cross who died next to Jesus? He had no time to right his wrongs. He Acknowledged his sins and asked Jesus to remember him when Jesus get to heaven. Jesus said the thief would be with Him in paradise. You are waiting as if tomorrow is guaranteed. If you lose your life tonight and find yourself in hell you will feel really stupid. Don't worry about resolving every issue. The main issue is your eternal resting place. Get that fixed first.

 

[mindfulzen]

Sir you will never stop sinning. So if that's what you are waiting on you will never pray. Christ said He didn't come for the righteous people, He came for the sinners Luke 5:30-32. He's not waiting on you to be sinless, Hes waiting on you to come to Him as you are. Have you read about the thief on the cross who died next to Jesus? He had no time to right his wrongs. He Acknowledged his sins and asked Jesus to remember him when Jesus get to heaven. Jesus said the thief would be with Him in paradise. You are waiting as if tomorrow is guaranteed. If you lose your life tonight and find yourself in hell you will feel really stupid. Don't worry about resolving every issue. The main issue is your eternal resting place. Get that fixed first.

Have come. But I will stop sinning. He did not remind Jesus of anything, he is Jesus. The thief on the cross believed Jesus, that is why he was saved. Never read about it. Yes, fixing me is of importance. Nothing is guaranteened.I do not worry about that. My faith is quite strong. If I do not qualify to heaven and have to go to hell, it is not a big deal.

 

[Dymes]

Have come. But I will stop sinning. He did not remind Jesus of anything, he is Jesus. The thief on the cross believed Jesus, that is why he was saved. Never read about it. Yes, fixing me is of importance. Nothing is guaranteened.I do not worry about that. My faith is quite strong. If I do not qualify to heaven and have to go to hell, it is not a big deal.

Going to work on a Monday is no big deal. Burning in hell for an eternity is a very big deal. But I believe I've covered most important points. I've enjoyed our conversation. It really lifted my spirit. Message me anytime with any questions you have.

 

[BryanPaul]

Have come. But I will stop sinning. He did not remind Jesus of anything, he is Jesus. The thief on the cross believed Jesus, that is why he was saved. Never read about it. Yes, fixing me is of importance. Nothing is guaranteened.I do not worry about that. My faith is quite strong. If I do not qualify to heaven and have to go to hell, it is not a big deal.

Well it is quite a big deal mindfulzen, but i think i know what you mean; That if it's God's will so be it. However, you certainly don't need to be perfectly pure to pray, in fact it's impossible to be perfect in this imperfect world so you need to pray first, for help to get out of this cesspool. There's no way you can do it on your own, that's why Jesus taught us to pray: "deliver us from evil (or the evil one)"

 

[mindfulzen]

Going to work on a Monday is no big deal. Burning in hell for an eternity is a very big deal. But I believe I've covered most important points. I've enjoyed our conversation. It really lifted my spirit. Message me anytime with any questions you have.

Not a big deal, since I am dispassionate about it, and do not question judgement. -I would of course like to go to heaven instead. Thank you, you are very knowledgable. We just disagree on some stuff. _I was an atheist, who never cared, I became achristian, who never questioned Gods will. It is simple with me. No worries, just be blunt. I know what I do the next days, so I stay if you wonder about that.

 

[mindfulzen]

Well it is quite a big deal mindfulzen, but i think i know what you mean; That if it's God's will so be it. However, you certainly don't need to be perfectly pure to pray, in fact it's impossible to be perfect in this imperfect world so you need to pray first, for help to get out of this cesspool. There's no way you can do it on your own, that's why Jesus taught us to pray: "deliver us from evil (or the evil one)"

Well it is quite a big deal mindfulzen, but i think i know what you mean; That if it's God's will so be it. However, you certainly don't need to be perfectly pure to pray, in fact it's impossible to be perfect in this imperfect world so you need to pray first, for help to get out of this cesspool. There's no way you can do it on your own, that's why Jesus taught us to pray: "deliver us from evil (or the evil one)"

I do not really need to pray for me. that is not the issue. I just think there are rules. I am not perfec, do not need to be. Just need to be honest. I found christ, all my friends and family is atheists, big problem, I do it on my own. Antitheists really. As I was so nothing to blame, if I was to take it personal. Do not worry buddy, I feel good. It is a relation between people only,

 

[BryanPaul]

I do not really need to pray for me. that is not the issue. I just think there are rules. I am not perfec, do not need to be. Just need to be honest. I found christ, all my friends and family is atheists, big problem, I do it on my own. Antitheists really. As I was so nothing to blame, if I was to take it personal. Do not worry buddy, I feel good. It is a relation between people only,

No worries bud, just a reminder that you're not alone, God is omni-present, Jesus Loves you, and we have the Holy Spirit as our Helper

 

[mindfulzen]

No worries bud, just a reminder that you're not alone, God is omni-present, Jesus Loves you, and we have the Holy Spirit as our Helper

Thank you,, and never feltr alone wwhile being alone. I know you care about others, also know my family cares. You are christian, not all are.

 

[Icedaisey]

Not to put too fine a pint on it however, our sex drive when we're young indicates we're suppose to naturally follow the biblical edict to, be fruitful and multiply.
Or at least get in lots of safe practice before deciding on that second part.

Being single may sound great, even do-able for those who have never fallen in love. However, when the fall happens the world changes.

Now, it becomes difficult to imagine life without them in it.

And then after many years together, the ups and downs, things can change again. Divorce happens, single life feels free and good and do-able forever.
Until love happens, again.

And then, experience let's one to realize they're wiser than before. And they take their time.

The point being, your life, to the OP, and in a general impersonal "your" reference, cannot be lived by consensus.

Not can it be led by strict adherence to a cultural tradition removed from reality by thousands of years. Because if part is argued as applicable, then all must be in order to manifest the entire ideal.

Take it easy. Keep your eyes, and your heart open. Don't fit your idea for your life into someone else's box. It won't fit and it won't work because it's their box. Not yours.

Life is not one size fits all. Unfortunately, when it comes to Christian ideology, while that too is obvious, it seems to not be when it comes to intimate relationships. It's imagined there is one box for all, and that's all God allows or approves.

It's your life. The one and only you'll ever consciously have. Don't be in a hurry. Don't make promises to yourself about relationships when you're young and single now. Because life rolls on and has a funny way of sometimes derailing your best laid plans just to show you who's boss.

Love yourself first. Build yourself up, never knock yourself down.
Because if you can't find cause to love the you that you live in and with, you'll never sincerely understand how anyone else could.

Enjoy the ride. And don't take any part of it too seriously.

If at the end of your living you can look back and say you laughed more than you cried, gave more than you got, left your tiny spot here better than you found it, and shall be missed by more people than those who will be glad you're gone, it was a good life.

Stay Blessed.

 

[mindfulzen]

Not to put too fine a pint on it however, our sex drive when we're young indicates we're suppose to naturally follow the biblical edict to, be fruitful and multiply.
Or at least get in lots of safe practice before deciding on that second part.

Being single may sound great, even do-able for those who have never fallen in love. However, when the fall happens the world changes.

Now, it becomes difficult to imagine life without them in it.

And then after many years together, the ups and downs, things can change again. Divorce happens, single life feels free and good and do-able forever.
Until love happens, again.

And then, experience let's one to realize they're wiser than before. And they take their time.

The point being, your life, to the OP, and in a general impersonal "your" reference, cannot be lived by consensus.

Not can it be led by strict adherence to a cultural tradition removed from reality by thousands of years. Because if part is argued as applicable, then all must be in order to manifest the entire ideal.

Take it easy. Keep your eyes, and your heart open. Don't fit your idea for your life into someone else's box. It won't fit and it won't work because it's their box. Not yours.

Life is not one size fits all. Unfortunately, when it comes to Christian ideology, while that too is obvious, it seems to not be when it comes to intimate relationships. It's imagined there is one box for all, and that's all God allows or approves.

It's your life. The one and only you'll ever consciously have. Don't be in a hurry. Don't make promises to yourself about relationships when you're young and single now. Because life rolls on and has a funny way of sometimes derailing your best laid plans just to show you who's boss.

Love yourself first. Build yourself up, never knock yourself down.
Because if you can't find cause to love the you that you live in and with, you'll never sincerely understand how anyone else could.

Enjoy the ride. And don't take any part of it too seriously.

If at the end of your living you can look back and say you laughed more than you cried, gave more than you got, left your tiny spot here better than you found it, and shall be missed by more people than those who will be glad you're gone, it was a good life.

Stay Blessed.

Much truth, some disagreement. Separate love and religion, and you kind of get it. Passion vs dispassion. And there is no issue with making a woman your God, as some say, it is fine. It is not about blame, just a fact about emotions running strong. It is how worldly love is and must be. You love someone over yourself. Applicable the other way around of course. And not about complaining for being led down wrong roads, unless personally stated, just love stated.

Love of God is different. It is dispassionate. No wants in it. You decide for yourself if you want to fit into a box or not. And if you are required to fit into a box or not. I am not. God just require honesty, not an emotional mess. Be logical. You seem to overthink it. When you deep down know that it is very simple. Not sure if I lied more than I cried. Took more than I gave, not good, but it is what it is. I do not know if I will be missed by more people than not. But not a concern for me, when I am going to live on. Why do you concern yourself with that? Do not jumpstart what is to come later, unless you are scared of the virus. Which is understandable. Have a good one.

 

[BryanPaul]

Not to put too fine a pint on it however, our sex drive when we're young indicates we're suppose to naturally follow the biblical edict to, be fruitful and multiply.
That's true, when we're young (but have become sexual mature enough) the over-riding natural impulse is to procreate, this is the same as any animal or even plants

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Or at least get in lots of safe practice before deciding on that second part.
That literally made me laugh out loud

Being single may sound great, even do-able for those who have never fallen in love. However, when the fall happens the world changes.
Or do-able for those who have fallen in love and been repeatedly heart broken. As someone once said: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is a sign of insanity.

[QUOTE="Icedaisey, post: 4641064, member: 309093"
Now, it becomes difficult to imagine life without them in it.
And then after many years together, the ups and downs, things can change again. Divorce happens, single life feels free and good and do-able forever.
Until love happens, again.
The problem that people often have is they have love and attachment mixed up together. Love is wanting others to be happy, whereas attachment is wanting others to make you happy. That's why people say silly things like " i love chocolate" not because they want chocolate to be happy, but because it makes them feel happy (for a short time). I've found this simple definition of the difference between love and attachment very useful in checking my motivation with regards to relationships

 

[BryanPaul]

oh...
..hmm.
The format of my last message didn't work out quite the way i was expecting ?