Girls would you give a guy a chance that struggles with porn as a boyfriend?

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Thing is, porn is one of those things that just is negative. I don't imagine any woman doing that says ''I found the best job everrrr...I have wanted to be a porn star since I was a kid.'' lol It's usually because they don't feel good about themselves, that is what leads many women into that. If we were atheists, we could say, well these are just people expressing themselves, but since we are followers of Jesus, we should look at sex a little differently. It's not just about ''getting off.'' It's about bonding with someone special that you love. Porn has no love in it, at all. It's all about creating selfish ways of looking at sex, IMO.
I know, the probably have a strong need to be loved and accepted too.
 

Deidre

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Not true. But I shouldn't have to deal with their addictions, and make them MY problem. They should get help and make progress BEFORE entering into a relationship. Otherwise, it WILL fall apart. Why should a person let themself get subjected to the effects of that addiction?
This.

No one is required to get married to someone who has addiction issues, with any type of addiction. That is what dating is for, you discern who you think would make a good spouse. Everyone sins, but if someone doesn't want to get help for an addiction, and just expects others to accept it, that's wrong on their part.

If some of you guys were dating someone and found out she does a lot of web cam stuff, posing naked for other men...would you just tolerate it? lol Hmmm....
 

jsr1221

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Not true. But I shouldn't have to deal with their addictions, and make them MY problem. They should get help and make progress BEFORE entering into a relationship. Otherwise, it WILL fall apart. Why should a person let themself get subjected to the effects of that addiction?
Making progress is simply admitting there's a problem and making that first appointment. That's the first step. Would you want something more than just the first step? You can't progress in recovery until you admit there's a problem. And I said you give a vibe. I haven't been the only one that has noticed that type of thing. See the countless marriage threads about asking should I or should I not get a divorce.
 
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Deepdistress21

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Not true. But I shouldn't have to deal with their addictions, and make them MY problem. They should get help and make progress BEFORE entering into a relationship. Otherwise, it WILL fall apart. Why should a person let themself get subjected to the effects of that addiction?
I think our point is that everyone has issues. everyone struggles. on a daily basis about something. about many things.
You will never be perfect, you will never not have to deal with peoples issues. we're humans.
You come across as if he has to be perfect really and that just doesn't exist. But porn is really just one of the many many sins. I don't see it as much different then many others. We have to be accepting of others flaws and try to support them in bettering themselves because every person has their own issues in just different ways. If you don't want someone in your life because they have to exist around your issues then that's your choice, but for me that would be a very sad very lonely life. I think my benefits would go above and beyond my flaws and my guy will be happy with me and ill better his life. For better or worse.
 

jsr1221

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This.

No one is required to get married to someone who has addiction issues, with any type of addiction. That is what dating is for, you discern who you think would make a good spouse. Everyone sins, but if someone doesn't want to get help for an addiction, and just expects others to accept it, that's wrong on their part.

If some of you guys were dating someone and found out she does a lot of web cam stuff, posing naked for other men...would you just tolerate it? lol Hmmm....
Did you even read what the op said? Not everyone that has posted in here. But just the op? He said he's getting help. Everyone in here is overlooking this. And do you or anyone else notice he's only posted 3 or 4 times because 99 percent of folks here don't recognize what he actually said?
 
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Deepdistress21

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I think we all just need to realize he's ACCEPTED that it's a bad thing. That he's CHOSEN to try and get better. And now he's REACHING out for support and love and we need to encourage that. That takes courage and strength and I admire that. :) I wish I had more of that in some areas of my life.
 
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Did you even read what the op said? Not everyone that has posted in here. But just the op? He said he's getting help. Everyone in here is overlooking this. And do you or anyone else notice he's only posted 3 or 4 times because 99 percent of folks here don't recognize what he actually said?
But she's not addressing the OP. One user came in here and accused everyone of being judgmental and now that's spurned a change from the intent of the thread.
 

Deidre

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I know I'm valued by God. It's just other people that don't give a crap.
Porn will never bring any value to your life, though. If anything, it will become a distraction to what is really bothering you. :(
 

Deidre

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Did you even read what the op said? Not everyone that has posted in here. But just the op? He said he's getting help. Everyone in here is overlooking this. And do you or anyone else notice he's only posted 3 or 4 times because 99 percent of folks here don't recognize what he actually said?
No one is overlooking it, we are talking about the various things that go with a topic like this.
 

blue_ladybug

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I think our point is that everyone has issues. everyone struggles. on a daily basis about something. about many things.
You will never be perfect, you will never not have to deal with peoples issues. we're humans.
You come across as if he has to be perfect really and that just doesn't exist. But porn is really just one of the many many sins. I don't see it as much different then many others. We have to be accepting of others flaws and try to support them in bettering themselves because every person has their own issues in just different ways. If you don't want someone in your life because they have to exist around your issues then that's your choice, but for me that would be a very sad very lonely life. I think my benefits would go above and beyond my flaws and my guy will be happy with me and ill better his life. For better or worse.

Well, I'm happily single, soooo dealing with someone's addiction will never happen to me. I never said that the guy has to be perfect. That's impossible. You choose to take on your guy's addiction and the mess that comes with it. I don't and that's okay. I won't be the one crying when my guy looks at porn or is beating off to it.
 
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I think our point is that everyone has issues. everyone struggles. on a daily basis about something. about many things.
You will never be perfect, you will never not have to deal with peoples issues. we're humans.
You come across as if he has to be perfect really and that just doesn't exist. But porn is really just one of the many many sins. I don't see it as much different then many others. We have to be accepting of others flaws and try to support them in bettering themselves because every person has their own issues in just different ways. If you don't want someone in your life because they have to exist around your issues then that's your choice, but for me that would be a very sad very lonely life. I think my benefits would go above and beyond my flaws and my guy will be happy with me and ill better his life. For better or worse.
You can do exactly the same by being in church ministries supporting these kinds of addiction.

The point is, when there is romantic emotions involved, you are endangering yourself to the same addiction. Unless, you think you're strong enough to resist it? Hopefully not.
 
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Deepdistress21

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Well, I'm happily single, soooo dealing with someone's addiction will never happen to me. I never said that the guy has to be perfect. That's impossible. You choose to take on your guy's addiction and the mess that comes with it. I don't and that's okay. I won't be the one crying when my guy looks at porn or is beating off to it.
And i won't be the one doubting someone before even giving them a chance.
And i wont cry. Ive been in that situation. Theres things i do that would disappoint him and i understand ita a two way street. Ill just try to encourage and if hes making progress ans really means it then great. Even if he did slip that doesnt mean my worth to him would be nothing.
 

blue_ladybug

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Making progress is simply admitting there's a problem and making that first appointment. That's the first step. Would you want something more than just the first step? You can't progress in recovery until you admit there's a problem. And I said you give a vibe. I haven't been the only one that has noticed that type of thing. See the countless marriage threads about asking should I or should I not get a divorce.
NO I wouldn't want more than the first step. And the advice I give in the marriage threads have NO bearing on THIS thread. The majority of the time, those women are being abused so of course I'm going to tell them to get out before their head gets bashed in. I think you're arguing just to argue right now.
 

blue_ladybug

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And i won't be the one doubting someone before even giving them a chance.
And i wont cry. Ive been in that situation. Theres things i do that would disappoint him and i understand ita a two way street. Ill just try to encourage and if hes making progress ans really means it then great. Even if he did slip that doesnt mean my worth to him would be nothing.
Your worth WOULD be nothing to him, if he made his addiction more important to him than you are.. I would have to see admittance and progress before I enter into a relationship with an addict.
 

blue_ladybug

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As far as the OP admitting his problem and pursuing help for it, then good for him. :)
 

jsr1221

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NO I wouldn't want more than the first step. And the advice I give in the marriage threads have NO bearing on THIS thread. The majority of the time, those women are being abused so of course I'm going to tell them to get out before their head gets bashed in. I think you're arguing just to argue right now.
Or maybe I'm a recovered addict from pornography and maybe might know a thing or two about it? Like I said about how AA was started... It was because an alcoholic met with an alcoholic. Sometimes an addict can relate the best to another addict.
 
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Ultimatum77

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Did you even read what the op said? Not everyone that has posted in here. But just the op? He said he's getting help. Everyone in here is overlooking this. And do you or anyone else notice he's only posted 3 or 4 times because 99 percent of folks here don't recognize what he actually said?
Yea I understand and am glad he's admitting his problem, but all gf stuff should be put on the shelf until he gets victory over his addiction otherwise it's opening doors for other sexual temptations due to the porn influencing his mind....not a good idea at all.....it should be no gf until no porn....plain and simple...
 
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Deepdistress21

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Your worth is not bases on one mistake. Or one slip. God forgives us for so much and repeatedly. I try to do the same. Be loving, be forgiving. As long as its progress and its mot consuming to him and hes looking to the Lord then i will forgive small mistakes. Because were humans, we sin. We hurt. Were selfish. But that does mot decrease our value to God. And it will not decrease my value either as long as im or he or anyone is improving. There will be many many times i will mess up or be selfish in life. That does not mean i dont love or value those around me who get hurt in the progress.
 
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Yeah, I agree Blue, some are just arguing for the sake of arguing!

No one disagrees about helping someone who struggles.

It's when romantic feelings are involved is where the line is blurred.

I know Blue doesn't judge OP after all she's been through. But she has a point. The thread talks about a GIRLFRIEND. Really, would you endanger yourself? Does that automatically mean, you're not accepting, supporting and stuff.
 

blue_ladybug

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Or maybe I'm a recovered addict from pornography and maybe might know a thing or two about it? Like I said about how AA was started... It was because an alcoholic met with an alcoholic. Sometimes an addict can relate the best to another addict.

Just because YOU recovered does not mean that ALL addicts do or will. And AA did nada to help my ex-bf Carl. :/ I'm sure it helps many, but not all.