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Gojira

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I'm not sexist, but I wonder... If God intended us to truly be equal, then why aren't we equal? In many ways we seem to be opposites... Does "Helper" and "One flesh" truly mean equal? Why is the "husband" held accountable for his house?
Roles. A cop is no less equal under the law (except perhaps being permitted to run through lights), but that doesn't mean their role does not put them in authority over us.

The two sexes (and there are ONLY two) have different roles, but both possess equal value in God's sight. So "equal" here means value, not their duties to society, family, church, etc. And, this reflects the trinitarian Godhead, I believe.
 

seoulsearch

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OK, we know where YOU stand... lol
How about some suggestions? What WOULD BE the appropriate thing for a lonely older fella to do? :unsure:
I apologize from the start if this answer seems sarcastic in any way, because I'm really meaning for it to be a serious answer.

I'm not sure why a "lonely older fella" would think it would be any different than the advice they give to the younger singles: if you want to meet friends or a special someone, the formula doesn't change. As far I can see, you'll have to do the same thing all the rest of the lonely singles are told time after time to do -- join groups, clubs, go to events, hang out on forums, serve at church, do volunteer work...

This is another area in which I can't claim to be an expert but as the only single person with no kids in my family, it kind of fell to me to look after my grandparents on both sides when their spouses died. One was in their 60's and the other in their 90's, and they both met significant others either through people they'd known for a long time (because they'd always lived in that area,) or by attending all the meals and events at the local senior center and churches. They lived in small towns in the middle of nowhere, and even those places had senior services and establishments.

After that, I've spent the last 10 years following my parents to other senior establishments in several places and they were literally entire meccas that specifically served the 55+ population. There was every kind of activity, club, restaurant, pub, and shop you could think of, all aimed towards the needs and wants of seniors. There was even one restaurant that was known to be the place where single seniors went to find a date for the night. The community had a plethora of senior singles, whether by choice, divorce, or widowhood.

Now of course, I'm not in any way promoting that any single should embrace the party life, but I guess one thing older people might have to do is to be willing to hang out with other seniors in social groups, and even those who are older than they are. It's an interesting thing to live in a place where the 75-year-olds (who are still very active) are complaining about the 55-year-old young "whipper snappers" who are "taking over everything."

I do have to mention that it was very common for the single people in those circles (whether male or female) to try to go after those who were much younger. Young, good-looking staff members at any of the businesses were regularly hit on by the older patrons, because it seemed like no one was satisfied with the idea of actually meeting someone within their own age range. And if they couldn't find success in real life, they would turn to internet dating sites all promising younger companions for older people. They all wanted someone to make them feel young and relevant.

I've been single now for almost 20 years, and while I don't have nearly as much life experience as some, I do have to say that from what I've seen, the Christian community is no different, and often even worse as far as expectations go. This is because everyone believes God "wants only the best for them," and the best must mean exactly what they want. We all fall to this, including myself at times (which is probably why I'm still single, lol.)

Back in the day, Christian Mingle was divided into live chat rooms according to age range -- the 20's, 30's, etc. I was in the 30's range at the time, and we often had people in the 30's room in their mid-40's and 50's who were looking for 30-something companions. I understand this, but if all the older people are looking for someone younger (and I'm certainly not saying you are, JAPOV, I'm just using this as an example,) it's no wonder older people aren't finding companions because they're ignoring those who are actually in their own age range.

So I realize most older singles aren't going to find this very helpful, but I've seen for myself that really there are resources out there for older singles, and like singles of any age, it takes a lot of work and effort to feel them out.

I consider myself to be an extreme introvert, so I understand that most people don't want to have to, or don't have the time or resources, to join groups or things outside of their regular lives -- everyone wants a quick antidote for loneliness -- hop online, instantly connect with some magical princess or unicorn, then run away together in the setting sun.

Unfortunately, most times it just doesn't work that way. But that doesn't mean other things can't work.

As I type this, I'm in the midst of an over 7-years-in-the-making, 2-years-of-planning real-life meetup with 5 other CC members from across the country.

No, it's not the romantic love that most singles hope they can find, and it's taken countless hours for us all to get to know each other over the years in order to establish enough trust to do this, and I know that for myself, it's been a great reminder that God might not give us what we think we want -- but He may give us other amazing things.

I really have a heart for singles and it's my prayer that every single could be a friend to and find at least one good Godly person to connect with.
 

seoulsearch

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The two sexes (and there are ONLY two) have different roles, but both possess equal value in God's sight. So "equal" here means value, not their duties to society, family, church, etc. And, this reflects the trinitarian Godhead, I believe.
This reminds me of a job I had in which a co-worker was undoubtedly bigger, faster, and stronger than I was, and if you just looked at numbers, the other person was obviously the most valuable of the two of us.

But that person also always left the work space we had in shambles, and so my part of the equation was making sure everything was also organized and ready to go. It doesn't do much good to have stacks of things already prepped if they're not arranged in such a way that they will be processed in an efficient order.

I was fortunate in that our boss valued not just quantity but order as well, and so he saw both of our work as kind of the necessary yins and yangs to our individual styles and abilities.

I have a feeling that this may be how God sees the talents of men and women as well.
 

soberxp

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Careful @soberxp , you may be suggesting that a dog can replace a woman :LOL:
:eek::oops::ROFL::LOL:
I have thought about the wonders of animals.
If I was alone in the world.
When I farm alone, I sweat a lot. I will let many flies lick my sweat, so that my skin will not age. If I could be lazy, I would ask the bees to help me make more honey.If there is a virus in that world, I will let mosquitoes bite me, which is like vaccination.

But I understand how important a quiet woman is, she could help me keep sobering and A calm mood. A quiet woman doesn't mean a mute, but a tender woman.
 

Gojira

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If this thread is about people getting to know each other, then I wanted to express how certain stereotypes have affected my own life and those I know.

Your post fit in very well with what I've seen older men post in this forum about this topic many times, therefore I also gave my usual answers.

Certainly nothing out of the ordinary on my end. The long-time regulars here have heard me speak about it many times --poor people, lol.

I do think that most older men, perhaps not you, are thinking mostly about themselves and their own needs, rather than hers, when they seek young foreign brides.

Your original post mentioned that you would like a young Asian woman to "play with you" and help keep you mobile -- I was interested in what you believe you would have to offer her in return as an equal partner.

I never hear this side of the situation talked about, and always wish men would include it as a balance when expressing these desires.
I will tell you why I prefer Asian/Latin women. There are three main reasons. None of them have to do with treating a woman like an object. Ugh.

1. In my experience, western women (with the exception perhaps of those living in the American south-east -- and this is a broad generalization anyway) seem to have crazily high expectations. I've described some of those in other threads: Money, height, etc., and oh, he should be Christian too.

2. Oftentimes (again, generally speaking) women from the far-east and Latin America are more feminine and believe in a more traditional role in the house, with the man being the head, etc. This aligns with our assigned Biblical roles.

I recall walking though Los Angeles and seeing girls who looked like boys (short hair, tattooed sleeves), and effeminate young men (skinny jeans, weak persona, overcompensated with excessive tattoos and full facial hair). I realize the entire country is not like this, but this is one example of what our western "values" have devolved into.

3. I have a physical preference for the "exotic": Dark hair, tanned/olive skin, dark almond-shaped eyes, etc. (Women from the Mediterranean and the near-east also fit this bill.) My late wife was Philippine. Lord, was she beautiful.

Now, for the record, I want to reiterate that these are generalities, not absolutes. That would be ridiculous. I'm not closed to someone who falls outside these ethnic zones (I can recall white and black women I'd date in a heartbeat), nor am I closed to an American woman. In fact, I'd prefer someone from here who was a serious Christian as well as a strong American patriot, someone who cared about the country and who'd pray with me for her on a regular basis. But, so far, I've met no one single who also shares a mutual interest with me and who fits that description. And, Latin women in particular have more often expressed an attraction to me than white or black American women have.
 

Gojira

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:eek::oops::ROFL::LOL:
I have thought about the wonders of animals.
If I was alone in the world.
When I farm alone, I sweat a lot. I will let many flies lick my sweat, so that my skin will not age. If I could be lazy, I would ask the bees to help me make more honey.If there is a virus in that world, I will let mosquitoes bite me, which is like vaccination.

But I understand how important a quiet woman is, she could help me keep sobering and A calm mood. A quiet woman doesn't mean a mute, but a tender woman.
This is a bizarre post.
 

Gojira

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Oooops! I think you just stepped in it Goji :oops:
Bro, what is it with you? This is the second time you've said this to me. Are you really that afraid to speak your mind to a woman?

What I said was Biblical. If someone has a problem with it, they can show me in the Scriptures where I'm wrong.
 

Magenta

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If there is a virus in that world, I will let mosquitoes bite me, which is like vaccination.
Whaaaaa??? Mosquitoes transmit more than one in seven infectious diseases, causing around 700,000
deaths a year from diseases like Zika virus, West Nile virus, Chikungunya virus, dengue, and malaria.
 

Gojira

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This reminds me of a job I had in which a co-worker was undoubtedly bigger, faster, and stronger than I was, and if you just looked at numbers, the other person was obviously the most valuable of the two of us.

But that person also always left the work space we had in shambles, and so my part of the equation was making sure everything was also organized and ready to go. It doesn't do much good to have stacks of things already prepped if they're not arranged in such a way that they will be processed in an efficient order.

I was fortunate in that our boss valued not just quantity but order as well, and so he saw both of our work as kind of the necessary yins and yangs to our individual styles and abilities.

I have a feeling that this may be how God sees the talents of men and women as well.
Not arguing with that. Each sex brings something unique to the table, which is why homosexual families are a demonic creation.

Okay Japov, did I step in "it" again? GOOD.
 
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I recall walking though Los Angeles and seeing girls who looked like boys (short hair, tattooed sleeves), and effeminate young men (skinny jeans, weak persona, overcompensated with excessive tattoos and full facial hair). I realize the entire country is not like this, but this is one example of what our western "values" have devolved into.
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Willow

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I thought that was what grandchildren were for

I worked in retirement villages where grandchildren were excluded. Like there are no playgrounds for them and aboslutely nothing for them to do when they visited.

so instead they had croquet lawns and snooker tables where the oldies would play together. if they needed help nurses would come and read the newspaper with them and read out quizzes. I remmeber one elderly lady carried a baby doll everywhere she went. If they cant have pets, they have pot plants.

Though I hear there is a shortage of nurses in my country and its not that well paid a job.
Some have been overworked and gone on strike becuase working conditions are like they never get a break thanks to shortages, so it compounds the problem.

You have to be a certain type of person to be a nurse and not fazed by anything the human body has (inside or outside) esp geriatric nursing.. you have to be strong too, babies are easy to lift but an elderly person not so much!
Nurses are well paid, CNA's or STNA's not so much. They are the ones usually doing the dirty work( I was one for 13 yr.s)
 
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Bro, what is it with you? This is the second time you've said this to me. Are you really that afraid to speak your mind to a woman?

What I said was Biblical. If someone has a problem with it, they can show me in the Scriptures where I'm wrong.
Fine, I've been told... :rolleyes: