I don't mean to kill the thread, and I do know it was meant to be funny, but I do have to say something serious here.
Lynx, I know you're a good person and I know you mean it all in good fun. I totally get that. I also know you're a kind person who has often said things that made me smile when life is being a little topsy-turvy.
But I also want to say, I understand Jsr's point very well and really appreciate what he's trying to say. I personally believe as well that making fun of someone's physical characteristics in any circumstance is off-limits, and Jsr has made a good point that sometimes we might want to rethink what is typically seen as "just a joke".
I have almost always worked around groups of guys. And their conversations usually go like this (I heard this just the other night): "Yeah, she's a nice girl..." "But is she hot?" "Well, she seems ok..." "But man, SHE'S NOT HOT!!!!" To say this is very discouraging is an understatement. And the implication is, heaven help all the girls who aren't seen as "hot" because they are automatically dismissed.
I also take this to heart because over the years, other girls have made comments about the guys I've liked (regarding looks) that really made me angry. One very pretty "Mean Girls" type told me (about my first boyfriend), "No offense, but he's really odd-looking." Another woman told me we could have kids... just as long as it was out in the country and we never took them in public for anyone to see. Other girls told me the guys I liked were... too skinny... too this... too that.
And my attitude was always, "Well it's a good thing I'm the one who likes him and not you!" Seriously. It was enough to make me want to get into fist fights with other girls.
I guess I can only speak for myself here. But I guess for me... when it comes to looks and such, it's kind of a sacred cow. And my friends know not to make negative comments about the appearance of someone I like... at any time.
All right. Thank you for allowing me to say what I wanted to say. I will now get back to trying to figure out who this "Frank" person is and why he keeps making ghost posts... (reference to earlier posts.)