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Your brother in Christ Praus finds expressions such as "limited atonement" and "unconditional election" are very, very offensive. 
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I'm not sure if jimmydiggs understands the reference. I'm not sure of Praus intent, but it sounds like he is supporting my point. Of course, I can't read his heart or mind that some profess to do. By the way, is that a log in your eye?
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When most folks I've known have talked about having an issue with their bf/gf's opposite gender friend, it has been for one of the following reasons:
1. Insecurity. Period.
2. The bf/gf spends more time with the friend than them or sides with the friend against the bf/gf.
3. The person discovers that the bf/gf has shared information with the friend that the person considered to be highly personal. NEVER do that. Few things will undercut a relationship faster/deeper.
1. Insecurity. Period.
2. The bf/gf spends more time with the friend than them or sides with the friend against the bf/gf.
3. The person discovers that the bf/gf has shared information with the friend that the person considered to be highly personal. NEVER do that. Few things will undercut a relationship faster/deeper.
I was getting to know a guy a while ago (we'd discussed dating - he lived a few hours away so I hadn't met him yet) who had a woman friend (a past girlfriend) who he hung out with a lot. He'd been going over there every night to hang out with a group of others, staying until 1-2am. One night he stayed after everyone else had gone home, and talked with her alone until 7am. Again, he stressed that they were just close friends. It was no biggie to me because I wasn't emotionally invested in him, but if I had been, this would have been a red flag for me. If you are close enough to spend literally ALL NIGHT alone talking, then maybe that's the person you should be dating. I dunno.
I think that in a relationship, there will come a point when each person needs to put some distance between themselves and close friends of the opposite gender. It doesn't sound like the OP had come to that point yet, so this woman clearly over-reacted in a serious way. (Red flag there, maybe.) But boundaries are good, and necessary for a healthy relationship when the time comes. That isn't jealousy or possessiveness... it's just caution.
I think that in a relationship, there will come a point when each person needs to put some distance between themselves and close friends of the opposite gender. It doesn't sound like the OP had come to that point yet, so this woman clearly over-reacted in a serious way. (Red flag there, maybe.) But boundaries are good, and necessary for a healthy relationship when the time comes. That isn't jealousy or possessiveness... it's just caution.
I maintain that it is a prayer, or rather an exclamation in the practice of praying without ceasing. It's in the form of crying out to God.
And it's not breaking the commandment which is more likely to be speaking against erroneously attributing things to God. Some examples would be "holy" wars that really aren't, racism with false biblical basis, or using scripture out of context to hurt or control people.
Sanctimonious, much?
And it's not breaking the commandment which is more likely to be speaking against erroneously attributing things to God. Some examples would be "holy" wars that really aren't, racism with false biblical basis, or using scripture out of context to hurt or control people.
Sanctimonious, much?
really two pages and more people are focused on his title than his actual question/request? Get a life.
And yes Hal, some women, but not all, can get a bit possessive and moody when you have a lot of female friends. I dated a girl and tried to maintain a female bestfriend at the same time...sooner rather than later I realized i valued friendship over a nag in my ear.
Though I know she has had problems between boyfriends and me being her best friend so i guess it works for both sexes.
And yes Hal, some women, but not all, can get a bit possessive and moody when you have a lot of female friends. I dated a girl and tried to maintain a female bestfriend at the same time...sooner rather than later I realized i valued friendship over a nag in my ear.
Though I know she has had problems between boyfriends and me being her best friend so i guess it works for both sexes.
OH. MY. GALOSHES. I would have answered this thread but I was too offended. Just kidding.
I've always found it interesting that, from the cross, Jesus shouted out, "MY GOD, MY GOD, why have you forsaken Me?" Would it have been considered sinful if, instead, He shouted, "OH MY GOD, why have you forsaken Me?"
I know, you'll say... "But it's JESUS!" If you feel convicted, by all means, don't say it. If you see it as calling out to God, maybe He is convicting someone differently. I truly believe God deals with us all individually and it's important to remember that our own personal convictions do not always mean we need to try to put them on everyone else.
My own parents feel so strongly against it that we got in trouble if they ever heard us say, "Oh my gosh," ("It's too close to God," my Mom would say), so to this day, I feel convicted. BUT, I do believe it's more of a personal issue and I don't condemn others who don't feel convicted.
Now, back to the thread... Hal, I completely agree with the other posters here. This woman has some things she needs to work out with God... Until that happens, no one will be able to do anything right in her eyes, no matter how hard you try, and even if you DON'T do anything wrong or against her "rules", her imagination will take over and she'll think you did.
Keep on movin' on, and God bless.
I've always found it interesting that, from the cross, Jesus shouted out, "MY GOD, MY GOD, why have you forsaken Me?" Would it have been considered sinful if, instead, He shouted, "OH MY GOD, why have you forsaken Me?"
I know, you'll say... "But it's JESUS!" If you feel convicted, by all means, don't say it. If you see it as calling out to God, maybe He is convicting someone differently. I truly believe God deals with us all individually and it's important to remember that our own personal convictions do not always mean we need to try to put them on everyone else.
My own parents feel so strongly against it that we got in trouble if they ever heard us say, "Oh my gosh," ("It's too close to God," my Mom would say), so to this day, I feel convicted. BUT, I do believe it's more of a personal issue and I don't condemn others who don't feel convicted.
Now, back to the thread... Hal, I completely agree with the other posters here. This woman has some things she needs to work out with God... Until that happens, no one will be able to do anything right in her eyes, no matter how hard you try, and even if you DON'T do anything wrong or against her "rules", her imagination will take over and she'll think you did.
Keep on movin' on, and God bless.
Oh, Misty, by the way, I wanted to let you know that I used your quote only because I liked it--I thought it was a good example of a different perspective is all, NOT because I was trying to criticize in any way.
You have some really great insights and I enjoy your posts!!
Sorry, I should have clarified that!!!
You have some really great insights and I enjoy your posts!!
Sorry, I should have clarified that!!!
Thank you for being so thoughtful for wanting to clarify. Your response is so well-written that I understood what you meant.
By no means do I think that every use of the three-letter word in question is for holy means. Personally, I have a lot of anxiety for reasons that are myriad. I DO cry out to my Abba on a frequent basis and had a young minister fresh out of seminary publicly call me out on it. There was no effort to understand, no grace, no opportunity to clarify my stance. He just assumed that I was being flippant or insincere, not figuratively holding on by my fingertips.
I'm presently struggling with how to respond to my brothers and sisters in Christ who condemn with Pharisaical certainty rather than reaching out in grace.
By no means do I think that every use of the three-letter word in question is for holy means. Personally, I have a lot of anxiety for reasons that are myriad. I DO cry out to my Abba on a frequent basis and had a young minister fresh out of seminary publicly call me out on it. There was no effort to understand, no grace, no opportunity to clarify my stance. He just assumed that I was being flippant or insincere, not figuratively holding on by my fingertips.
I'm presently struggling with how to respond to my brothers and sisters in Christ who condemn with Pharisaical certainty rather than reaching out in grace.
It was a joke about Calvinism that would have gotten me burned at the stake 400 years ago.
I think brother Jimmy understands as been on my Friends list for a while--he's very funny and quite clever. Also Jimmy is, in fact, from Switzerland, where Jean Calvin lived most of his life...
A log, well.... what does Martin Luther's Bibel say? Genau...
Matt 7:3 Was siehst du aber den Splitter in deines Bruders Auge, und wirst nicht gewahr des Balkens in deinem Auge? 4 Oder wie darfst du sagen zu deinem Bruder: Halt, ich will dir den Splitter aus deinem Auge ziehen, und siehe, ein Balken ist in deinem Auge?
I think brother Jimmy understands as been on my Friends list for a while--he's very funny and quite clever. Also Jimmy is, in fact, from Switzerland, where Jean Calvin lived most of his life...
A log, well.... what does Martin Luther's Bibel say? Genau...
Matt 7:3 Was siehst du aber den Splitter in deines Bruders Auge, und wirst nicht gewahr des Balkens in deinem Auge? 4 Oder wie darfst du sagen zu deinem Bruder: Halt, ich will dir den Splitter aus deinem Auge ziehen, und siehe, ein Balken ist in deinem Auge?