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My thought on the millions of threads about the evils of women preaching, O.K. we get it, you don't think women should, preach, teach, drive, whatever, then don't go to a church that does think women can preach.
It's funny though, these are the same people who trust us to raise their children. So should we hire a nanny when we're on our periods?
I almost said that I don't get the women who marry these men. Then I remembered that I was one of them. Sharing a home, a bank account, and a bed with someone who thinks so lowly of women is beyond degrading. Those threads are the thoughts that these men are willing to share with the outside [cyber] world. Can you imagine the ones that they filter out, the ones too "radical" to have immortalized on the internet? Scary.
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I have a confession.
I try to avoid making logical arguments.
I prefer to use metaphors, parables and aphorisms.
I don't want to prove someone wrong, I want them to experience why what I'm saying is right and to discover that for themselves.
I try to avoid making logical arguments.
I prefer to use metaphors, parables and aphorisms.
I don't want to prove someone wrong, I want them to experience why what I'm saying is right and to discover that for themselves.
. I've seen you post really logical and well thought out things so it surprises me to see you describe yourself that way.As far as logic itself goes, it amazes me how crappy our logic as a species actually is when you look at the whole(I include myself in this, no one is immune but I tend to believe my awareness of it makes me less susceptible). We generally just tend to make emotional and/or automatic assumptions about a topic, and then build all of our logic on top of the assumption......when lots of times, it's the underlying assumption that's false. You can even put all kinds of rational arguments on top of the assumption and make it look pretty, but it still doesn't change the reality. lol
Paying attention to that detail is an eye opener. Lots of times all you need to do is figure out what a person is assuming to completely understand their point of view. If you can then figure out what it means to a person emotionally, you can understand cases where a person just never seems reasonable. It's not really that they're dumb, it's just that their brain filters out everything to the contrary because it's a cherished perspective. For me, it's mostly about figuring a person out. That's what I really get out of a debate like discussion, I don't really care to change anyones point of view that isn't open to having it changed.
That would be a difficult challenge to be married to someone like that. But you know what's funny, someone like that wouldn't expect any less of you running a household. I don't care if you have massive cramps, wash the dishes, put the laundry away and get the children ready for bed. I couldn't be married to someone like that. I've worked through sickness, cramps, being 9 months pregnant and cramping. It is what it is, but if things weren't up to par, my Husband wouldn't be mad. I am sure he understands.
You can do all these things while you're menstruating, but preach and teach, no way! You irrational crazy hormonal beast! Oh by the way can you pick up my dry cleaning while you're out?
That's an interesting perspective. Philosophical of you . I've seen you post really logical and well thought out things so it surprises me to see you describe yourself that way.
As far as logic itself goes, it amazes me how crappy our logic as a species actually is when you look at the whole(I include myself in this, no one is immune but I tend to believe my awareness of it makes me less susceptible). We generally just tend to make emotional and/or automatic assumptions about a topic, and then build all of our logic on top of the assumption......when lots of times, it's the underlying assumption that's false. You can even put all kinds of rational arguments on top of the assumption and make it look pretty, but it still doesn't change the reality. lol
Paying attention to that detail is an eye opener. Lots of times all you need to do is figure out what a person is assuming to completely understand their point of view. If you can then figure out what it means to a person emotionally, you can understand cases where a person just never seems reasonable. It's not really that they're dumb, it's just that their brain filters out everything to the contrary because it's a cherished perspective. For me, it's mostly about figuring a person out. That's what I really get out of a debate like discussion, I don't really care to change anyones point of view that isn't open to having it changed.
. I've seen you post really logical and well thought out things so it surprises me to see you describe yourself that way.As far as logic itself goes, it amazes me how crappy our logic as a species actually is when you look at the whole(I include myself in this, no one is immune but I tend to believe my awareness of it makes me less susceptible). We generally just tend to make emotional and/or automatic assumptions about a topic, and then build all of our logic on top of the assumption......when lots of times, it's the underlying assumption that's false. You can even put all kinds of rational arguments on top of the assumption and make it look pretty, but it still doesn't change the reality. lol
Paying attention to that detail is an eye opener. Lots of times all you need to do is figure out what a person is assuming to completely understand their point of view. If you can then figure out what it means to a person emotionally, you can understand cases where a person just never seems reasonable. It's not really that they're dumb, it's just that their brain filters out everything to the contrary because it's a cherished perspective. For me, it's mostly about figuring a person out. That's what I really get out of a debate like discussion, I don't really care to change anyones point of view that isn't open to having it changed.
Yeah, that emotional trigger/cue is a big part of how we encode memory and meaning to our choices. Divorcing ourselves from this, to have a discussion about meaningful things, is definitely a learned behavior.
I was a sensitive kid, and growing up there was things that I knew were "Right" morally, but I couldn't "Prove" it but I would still argue about it. Usually during the course of the exchange of ideas, I would be an emotional mess.
Like I remember arguing with my dad that the squirrels in the backyard and mom's bulbs in her flower bed could peacefully coexist. I proposed that we feed the squirrels, therefore they would quit digging up mom's flowers and replacing them with walnuts from our trees.
But dad liked shooting them, and I felt like that was wrong.
I didn't want him to shoot them mostly because, when they were young I knew I could feed them out of my hand.
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It's interesting how it works, and how we develop. I've been studying psychology for over 10 years, and I still couldn't learn it all even if I had 100 years.
Those poor squirrels, lol. I went hunting a couple times as a kid. I shot a squirrel one time and he fell out of the tree....was still alive. The look he gave me was so pitiful....I still feel horrible about it to this day. I'll never hunt again unless I have no other way to feed my household. Nothing wrong with having a heart I say
Those poor squirrels, lol. I went hunting a couple times as a kid. I shot a squirrel one time and he fell out of the tree....was still alive. The look he gave me was so pitiful....I still feel horrible about it to this day. I'll never hunt again unless I have no other way to feed my household. Nothing wrong with having a heart I say
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PM, jilly or kayem or lil_christian, just three quick names of many wonderful Godly-led ladies on c.c., wwJd_ww21. I will give more names if you like, too. Personal green references
Also, I went to your profile, you're with one of the prettiest backgrounds of any I've seen on c.c.for your profile page and that's a wonderful blessing to all who come to your page and view your 'Lord is my salvation' picture
The Lord leads "...you follow Me." John 21:22 Jesus talking to Peter who is envious of John who Jesus is telling will be the only disciple not to die a martyr's death. You follow Him, ww_21 , milady
Also, I went to your profile, you're with one of the prettiest backgrounds of any I've seen on c.c.for your profile page and that's a wonderful blessing to all who come to your page and view your 'Lord is my salvation' picture
The Lord leads "...you follow Me." John 21:22 Jesus talking to Peter who is envious of John who Jesus is telling will be the only disciple not to die a martyr's death. You follow Him, ww_21 , milady
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Yup, you might be too broken and hurt to be repaired by one of us humans. But SO easy to be repaired by God in a blink of an eye. Just lean on Him, make sure you are listening to what He says to you, tell Him ALL your troubles exactly the way they are, He's your Father who can do A LOT more than we can expect or think of Him. Go to Him first and tell Him you wanna hear Him talking to you. He'll never let you down, I promise!
Praying for you sis.
Just lean on Him, make sure you are listening to what He says to you, tell Him ALL your troubles exactly the way they are, He's your Father who can do A LOT more than we can expect or think of Him. Go to Him first and tell Him you wanna hear Him talking to you. He'll never let you down, I promise! Praying for you sis.
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PM, jilly or kayem or lil_christian, just three quick names of many wonderful Godly-led ladies on c.c., wwJd_ww21. I will give more names if you like, too. Personal green references
Also, I went to your profile, you're with one of the prettiest backgrounds of any I've seen on c.c.for your profile page and that's a wonderful blessing to all who come to your page and view your 'Lord is my salvation' picture
The Lord leads "...you follow Me." John 21:22 Jesus talking to Peter who is envious of John who Jesus is telling will be the only disciple not to die a martyr's death. You follow Him, ww_21 , milady
Also, I went to your profile, you're with one of the prettiest backgrounds of any I've seen on c.c.for your profile page and that's a wonderful blessing to all who come to your page and view your 'Lord is my salvation' picture
The Lord leads "...you follow Me." John 21:22 Jesus talking to Peter who is envious of John who Jesus is telling will be the only disciple not to die a martyr's death. You follow Him, ww_21 , milady
Yup, you might be too broken and hurt to be repaired by one of us humans. But SO easy to be repaired by God in a blink of an eye. Just lean on Him, make sure you are listening to what He says to you, tell Him ALL your troubles exactly the way they are, He's your Father who can do A LOT more than we can expect or think of Him. Go to Him first and tell Him you wanna hear Him talking to you. He'll never let you down, I promise!
Praying for you sis.
Just lean on Him, make sure you are listening to what He says to you, tell Him ALL your troubles exactly the way they are, He's your Father who can do A LOT more than we can expect or think of Him. Go to Him first and tell Him you wanna hear Him talking to you. He'll never let you down, I promise! Praying for you sis.
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I love you ww_21 And you are most welcome little sis. So try this now, which is praying and asking God n' going to Him first, n' I'm here, those nice ladies GreenNnice suggested are also here, GreenNnice is here if you have any question. God can send you His word through people, through the bible, through a sermon, a spiritual book. What I want you to know is that His word is always very clear like black and white. Trust me, we are ALL in the same bought, this is life, right? c'est la vie!!
And you are most welcome little sis. So try this now, which is praying and asking God n' going to Him first, n' I'm here, those nice ladies GreenNnice suggested are also here, GreenNnice is here if you have any question. God can send you His word through people, through the bible, through a sermon, a spiritual book. What I want you to know is that His word is always very clear like black and white. Trust me, we are ALL in the same bought, this is life, right? c'est la vie!!
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