Why do men and women hate each other?

[TheIndianGirl]

Sorry to hear about your friends that were divorced, must be rough.

I would love to hear the reasoning of why these people choose to divorce, not because I want to hear drama, but the reasoning seems to be important. You care to share why they got divorced?

The reasons people give for divorce seem almost comical sometimes. A lady at work told me, that her husband wasn't very talkative, so she ended the marriage. If the truth came out of the real reasons of divorce, it would probably be different on what people say, to their lawyers. Just a hunch.

A guy from work told me his wife is leaving him, with no reason why, but he did a little snooping, and found out it was with her daughter's friend's dad. Surprise! Surprise! Cheating is on both sides, not just the men.

A good friend divorced her husband because her husband was being very passive agressive and they avoided eachother to prevent flighting.
He was also the main income earner and kept her in the dark about financial issues. He was spending his money on his parents and siblings but being frugal with her; she felt he was spoiling them.

Another one, the husband was being unfaithful but tried to frame the wife as being unfaithful as well. He asked his friend to meet her so another friend could take a picture of those two together.

Another, the friend is overweight but the husband posted flirty pics with skinny girls frequently while married. They divorced. We lost touch after HS so I don't know the details.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

I didn't read everything here, but many of the answers i did see make no sense.

Factor 1: The sexual revolution. Women gained the ability to have more casual sex, as well as to be more open about it. This gave them more chances to meet men of similar mindset, which is where many of the actual jerks that give men a bad reputation, dwell. So they get used and thrown away more commonly than ever.

Factor 2: Porn. Again, something once taboo has become normal and common and acceptable. And, again, run by jerks. And as it became more popular and acceptable, and as more women also began viewing it, the content got worse. Porn is basically ran by criminals, and abuse, especially of women, has, again, become the norm. Hitting, spitting, pain, slapping, choking not to mention blackmail or even taking advantage of or forcing yourself on a woman, including family members, has all been made normal. Not to mention cheating, especially by men, is considered acceptable or even to be expected.
And as younger and younger children are accessing it, they are growing up watching this and thinking it's normal. And the girls watch it and think it's normal as well.

Factor 3: Frustration. We see two major factors that lend to situations where women are mistreated. Eventually these women tire of all this mistreatment. The develop resentment towards men, because they inadvertantly put themselves into a world of people whose minds are warped. So they lash back.

Factor 4: Revenge. Now these women are determined to hurt men, since in their mind, all men are bad. But what often happens is the ones that are affected are usually the good guys. So, like the women, they become bitter from being mistreated and turn against women. The jerks aren't affected, but use this as an publicly acceptable reason to further hate on women.

Factor 5: The internet. All of these men and women come together online, and people tend to gravitate towards others of similar thinking. So enough of them get together and someone see's how common it is and decides to form a group. And the internet makes this easy to form and spread.

So if i were to put all of this into one sentence 'hurt people hurt people'. These are people either hurt so often, or so deeply, by the other gender, they resent all of that gender. And that thinking is encouraged and fueled by groups, rather than being a phase or stage to be worked through.
You can even see these hurt people here on this site, though they always deny it.

 

[Lanolin]

A good friend divorced her husband because her husband was being very passive agressive and they avoided eachother to prevent flighting.
He was also the main income earner and kept her in the dark about financial issues. He was spending his money on his parents and siblings but being frugal with her; she felt he was spoiling them.

Another one, the husband was being unfaithful but tried to frame the wife as being unfaithful as well. He asked his friend to meet her so another friend could take a picture of those two together.

Another, the friend is overweight but the husband posted flirty pics with skinny girls frequently while married. They divorced. We lost touch after HS so I don't know the details.

I figured these are once married couples right?
If they did not marry they would never have treated each other this way!

lol

 

[SimpleSheep]

So if i were to put all of this into one sentence 'hurt people hurt people'. These are people either hurt so often, or so deeply, by the other gender, they resent all of that gender. And that thinking is encouraged and fueled by groups, rather than being a phase or stage to be worked through.

This makes a lot of sense. People should work through these issues. It's okay if they want to stay single...but you can usually tell if the person harbors resentment towards the opposite sex...and that needs to be taken care of. These groups just fuel that bitterness instead.

You can even see these hurt people here on this site, though they always deny it.

Yeah several members are telling me to stay away from YouTube or Reddit...but it's not like it's just there. CC has plenty of users who have this mindset.

 

[JAPOV]

This makes a lot of sense. People should work through these issues. It's okay if they want to stay single...but you can usually tell if the person harbors resentment towards the opposite sex...and that needs to be taken care of. These groups just fuel that bitterness instead.



Yeah several members are telling me to stay away from YouTube or Reddit...but it's not like it's just there. CC has plenty of users who have this mindset.

Hmmmm... "Resentment", or mistrust?

 

[Pipp]

I just love everybody..... group hug anyone ??

 

[true_believer]

The title of this thread seems to be making an erroneous assumption based some gender war instigators of our modern era?

 

[conversationalchristian]

I don't know if there is a correlation, but it is a well-known fact that women have a smaller brain that is less capable of rational thought. I mean it's science.

 

[SimpleSheep]

I hope ya'll know I don't mean any disrespect with this thread. I do not resent men myself.

I've just noticed these things more and more lately and wondered why it is happening. My guess is that the enemy is delighted and wants to destroy families. Of course it's much more complicated than that...but that's the root of it.

 

[true_believer]

Okay so obviously not all of them hate each other...but a good portion of people online and especially on sites like Reddit and Youtube seem to form these two groups of people: one for men and one for women. A lot of the time the content/posts these groups make are to talk trash about the opposite sex.

For example, MGTOW and Red Pill groups claim that all women are the same and that they shouldn't be trusted because they just want money. Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money. Guys in these groups say women over 30 are worthless.

There are women groups like the one above that pretty much say the same thing but of men. Again, they tell young women not to get married or have babies because men don't help with housework or they cannot meet their emotional needs. They sometimes poke fun at men who cannot do things around the house. Women in these groups talk trash about short men.

This type of thinking is toxic and unhealthy but I see it everyday online and sometimes even in person.

Why is this happening? Why are people so angry against the opposite gender? Is there a way to fix this type of thinking?

A lot of men have embraced MGTOW and redpill due to experiencing a divorce or witnessing other men going through one. I have two close friends who are devout Christians and they don't want to risk marriage again because of what they went through financially and emotionally the first time around. But I know many women who've been through similar situations.

 

[JohnDB]

Okay so obviously not all of them hate each other...but a good portion of people online and especially on sites like Reddit and Youtube seem to form these two groups of people: one for men and one for women. A lot of the time the content/posts these groups make are to talk trash about the opposite sex.

For example, MGTOW and Red Pill groups claim that all women are the same and that they shouldn't be trusted because they just want money. Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money. Guys in these groups say women over 30 are worthless.

There are women groups like the one above that pretty much say the same thing but of men. Again, they tell young women not to get married or have babies because men don't help with housework or they cannot meet their emotional needs. They sometimes poke fun at men who cannot do things around the house. Women in these groups talk trash about short men.

This type of thinking is toxic and unhealthy but I see it everyday online and sometimes even in person.

Why is this happening? Why are people so angry against the opposite gender? Is there a way to fix this type of thinking?

Because when people are generalized they are usually marginalized and degraded. They become "less than human" to an individual who has an axe to grind.

Currently the Russians and PRC and Iranians are grouped and painted with a broad brush. On an individual level they become human again.

The Ukrainians are also painted with a broad brush because of their plight.

Individuals are people... collectively they aren't.

 

[melita916]

Back in the day, I didn’t hate men, but I was surely bitter towards them. I generalized that men only wanted “this, that, and the other”, and apparently I was none of those things because I wasn’t pursued at all. I felt completely invisible when it came to romance. On most days, I was ok with being single, and then I would have bad days. But the Lord is good always!

As for people not wanting to get married, that’s ok as long it’s for the right reason: it’s all bringing glory to the Lord.

 

[JAPOV]

In a world where literally everything under the sun has a price tag and a tax code, and is therefore politicized in some way or other... Isn't MGTOW simply the logical and inevitable politically correct answer to modern feminism? Take Gay rights for example; They march naked in the streets demanding equality. However, their version of equality strips the straight majority of the right to even have an opinion regarding homosexuality, and claims the unfortunate right to teach our children whatever they want.

Apples and Oranges you say?

Political correctness means lawyers. Lawyers mean money. Money means competition and public opinion. Public opinion means politics... And politics means division!

Division, of course, is the reason why it's so easy to get a divorce...

"The enemy is delighted and wants to destroy families..."
BINGO!
And arrogant God insulting greed, the self serving lust for all this world has to offer, is the root of all evil.

 

[love_comes_softly]

I don't know if there is a correlation, but it is a well-known fact that women have a smaller brain that is less capable of rational thought. I mean it's science.

Oh, is that so?

You used to frequent that chat part of this site, correct?

 

[TheIndianGirl]

Isn't MGTOW simply the logical and inevitable politically correct answer to modern feminism?

I think all these movements or ideas happen in cycles...feminism was the response to misogyny/ill-treatment of women, now MGTOW is the response to feminism.

 

[JAPOV]

I think all these movements or ideas happen in cycles...feminism was the response to misogyny/ill-treatment of women, now MGTOW is the response to feminism.

I think "perspective" is everything... Trust me, it's still a man's world lol.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

Trust me, it's still a man's world lol.

I agree, but curious, what do you mean by this?

 

[kinda]

In a world where literally everything under the sun has a price tag and a tax code, and is therefore politicized in some way or other... Isn't MGTOW simply the logical and inevitable politically correct answer to modern feminism?

Pretty much. It's a movement where some men have figured out the game and have decided to not play any more. Whether right or wrong, it's about surviving.

I have seen plenty of marriages, seen men and woman before marriages, and after marriages. To want to stay single shouldn't be such a confusing concept to grasp. lol

A boss long ago asked me, if I was ever gonna get married? I said jokingly, marriage is punishment in some countries. He replied, marriage is punishment in all countries. lol He looked serious. He later complained about his marriage.

I will leave it at this, all this relationship discussion makes me want to vomit out my lunch. lol

 

[Lighthearted]

Because the devil has been successful and wreaked havoc on marriage and family.

 

[JAPOV]

I agree, but curious, what do you mean by this?

Women are always saying, "If men would just shut up and do as they're told..."
Arrogance and unbridled vanity are a bad combination...
Do you believe women will postpone Armageddon... or just add fuel to the fire?