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No, I'm not. I'm saying this, because some cultures because of certain religions, men have a tendency to consider themselves as superior to women. Also, I never really considered Saudia Arabia as a third world country. I was wondering if maybe, the reason you see only this attitude might be because of your culture.
From what I know of the Muslim religion, in Arab countries, the men have a tendency to be heavy handed with women, and this could easily lead to a superiority attitude. And from what I know about Saudia Arabia, the Muslim religion is the dominate religion there. However, this would be the same in all religions, where one group was overly dominating another group.
From what I know of the Muslim religion, in Arab countries, the men have a tendency to be heavy handed with women, and this could easily lead to a superiority attitude. And from what I know about Saudia Arabia, the Muslim religion is the dominate religion there. However, this would be the same in all religions, where one group was overly dominating another group.
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of course some culture and religion cause that theory
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strange because i consider saudi arabia third world it just third world with alot of money
some of it yes but you should admit that Sex discrimination is aglobal issue but of course Sex discrimination carry third world signature
first islam it is not religion second arab habits is encourage Sex discrimination and when include islam with that's habits we got a disaster situation for women
it is the only one allowed there no religions allow to take aplace
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strange because i consider saudi arabia third world it just third world with alot of money
some of it yes but you should admit that Sex discrimination is aglobal issue but of course Sex discrimination carry third world signature
first islam it is not religion second arab habits is encourage Sex discrimination and when include islam with that's habits we got a disaster situation for women
it is the only one allowed there no religions allow to take aplace
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"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
I do not care if the bible say it or any book in the world say GOD say men rule over women
I will believe that God say it if only I met the lord and he say it in my face
and even if he say it I will have my own discussion to object
I do not care if the bible say it or any book in the world say GOD say men rule over women
I will believe that God say it if only I met the lord and he say it in my face
and even if he say it I will have my own discussion to object
Dear sister, when God assigned man to rule over women He meant for man to love her, watch over her and protect her, just as God loves and protects His own family.
The ones who interpret God's words as a right to abuse women are completely wrong and do not know the nature of God which is love itself (John 4:16), and in that sense I completely agree with you. God bless.
"Husbands, love your wives and never treat them harshly." - (Colossians 3:19)
The ones who interpret God's words as a right to abuse women are completely wrong and do not know the nature of God which is love itself (John 4:16), and in that sense I completely agree with you. God bless.
"Husbands, love your wives and never treat them harshly." - (Colossians 3:19)
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Im new christians and I still learn about christian and I loved how you explain it
but the question is why the words that used is "rule over " not protect not love not care
I am an Arab and when you translate English words to the other Arab the meaning become different in some cases but by translate "rule over" it mean control and the one who "rule over" become cntrolled and Dominated
is it in english "rule over" mean love or care or something nearby that meaning ?
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Ephesians 5: 21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Welcome to the family of Christ, abair.
A man who truly cherishes his wife as scripture instructs him to will NOT misuse his authority over his wife to abuse or belittle her.
There are men who misunderstand these verses who do not know the Lord and His ways who abuse these verses and abuse their authority over their wives. These scriptures make it clear that God did not mean to rule with an iron fist, but with love.
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Welcome to the family of Christ, abair.
A man who truly cherishes his wife as scripture instructs him to will NOT misuse his authority over his wife to abuse or belittle her. There are men who misunderstand these verses who do not know the Lord and His ways who abuse these verses and abuse their authority over their wives. These scriptures make it clear that God did not mean to rule with an iron fist, but with love.
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I think that when it comes to the Bible, we must remember that it is thousands of years old and i don't know exactly what should be taken literal or not but I do know this, every single this that was put into the Bible was put there to prove a point.
Now over the thousands of years things change, translations change, and meanings change. Think about how many versions were traslated into different languages and from that people can get different meanings. Like you said, when you translate English words into Arabian words, the meanings becomes different. I try to use my better judgement when deciding what is meant in the Bible. And also, as time change and as the Bible as changed over these thousands of years so have traditions and our own personal translation of meanings and such.
Now over the thousands of years things change, translations change, and meanings change. Think about how many versions were traslated into different languages and from that people can get different meanings. Like you said, when you translate English words into Arabian words, the meanings becomes different. I try to use my better judgement when deciding what is meant in the Bible. And also, as time change and as the Bible as changed over these thousands of years so have traditions and our own personal translation of meanings and such.
I would look into the original hebrew or greek word that was used for the original meaning.
The way I look at it is that God rules over us with love, patience and mercy, just as He would want us to rule over those that He has put us in charge of.
"For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you." - (Matthew 6:14)
The way I look at it is that God rules over us with love, patience and mercy, just as He would want us to rule over those that He has put us in charge of.
"For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you." - (Matthew 6:14)
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You beat me to it Zero. The term "rule over" has gained a lot of negative connotation in modern history with a lot of the world being democratically governed and those parts that aren't are primarily under harsh regimes. As a result the term has lost it's possible good connotation of a loving leader. By all means when taken in context of New Testament instructions for husbands it shouldn't be a bad thing.
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Welcome to CC, and the family of God, we are all happy to have you here.
In the KJV, the verse reads a little differently:
Colossian 3:19
Husbands love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
The Apostle Peter later tells us what happens when a husband doesn't obey this command.
I Peter 3:7
Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honor unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
God tells the husband if he doesn't treat the wife will, his prayers will be hinder. And as Julianna, stated the Husband is to love the wife, as Jesus love the church.
Yes the Bible does say the man will rule over the woman, but a godly man knows that God made his wife as a helpmate (Genesis 2:18) to him, that put her in equal footing in God's eyes, but God put man as the authority in the home. But any man with any wisdom, know woman have insite to things we as men, know very little of, so a wise husband in thee cases defer to the wife.
Jesus Christ is the only religious leader that spoke kindly to women, that I know of. One of the most beautiful stories in the Bible is about a woman caught in Adultery being taken to Jesus, so the Jewish leaders could get Jesus to condemn her to death. But Jesus, had mercy and compassion on her, you might want to read about it in John 8:1-12 ; He also condemned the men who brought her before Him.
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when the bible Portrays men like god to the women in fact this idea skip the "rule over"
to higher level of disagreement
I am having flash back from islam when mohamad say if i would ask someone to go in his knee and bow down and worship someone else I would ask from the wife to do that to her husband
to me they had the same idea worship husband which i do not accept or believe
again flash back from islam
in quran "men standing over women"
when i said some one is the head i mean his the one who control the body the head is the place where Decisions come from the head Controlled and dominated the body
this picture women as property to men
even in islam the same picture " women are land plowed by thier husband"
it does not matter if someone rule with love or iron
he do not have the right to rule human just because the gender
to me i do not believe the bible when it come to men rule over women
to higher level of disagreement
I am having flash back from islam when mohamad say if i would ask someone to go in his knee and bow down and worship someone else I would ask from the wife to do that to her husband
to me they had the same idea worship husband which i do not accept or believe
again flash back from islam
in quran "men standing over women"
when i said some one is the head i mean his the one who control the body the head is the place where Decisions come from the head Controlled and dominated the body
this picture women as property to men
even in islam the same picture " women are land plowed by thier husband"
it does not matter if someone rule with love or iron
he do not have the right to rule human just because the gender
to me i do not believe the bible when it come to men rule over women
God loves both men and women equally.
God judges both men and women equally.
God forgives both men and women equally.
When a man and a woman are united in a loving marriage this unity is a great blessing to both the man and the woman. The woman will now have a man to do the hard work for her, to defend her, a man to lean on when she needs comfort, a man who will honor her, appreciate her, conceive children with her and love her like no woman can.
In a loving relationship there is no room for abuse or for neglect or for disrespect towards one another. Each depends on the other for strength and support to get through this life together, as a team. I do not know the teachings of Islam, but if they do not teach love, then they do not teach the truth. God is love and truth, and the truth will always set us free and never put us in bondage.
God judges both men and women equally.
God forgives both men and women equally.
When a man and a woman are united in a loving marriage this unity is a great blessing to both the man and the woman. The woman will now have a man to do the hard work for her, to defend her, a man to lean on when she needs comfort, a man who will honor her, appreciate her, conceive children with her and love her like no woman can.
In a loving relationship there is no room for abuse or for neglect or for disrespect towards one another. Each depends on the other for strength and support to get through this life together, as a team. I do not know the teachings of Islam, but if they do not teach love, then they do not teach the truth. God is love and truth, and the truth will always set us free and never put us in bondage.
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