Can Homosexuals be filled with the Holy Spirit?..

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victorwisdom

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Sorry if this will offend anybody, and by the way this is not a thread to ask if Homosexualism is a Sin or Not.. :D.. Like i said earlier, I'm sorry if this will offend anyone but i find it funny or i just try as much as possible not to burst into laughter when i see Homosexual or hear of one that says he is filled with the Holy Spirit or speak in tongues..:D. Forgive Me!, but i'm just like that...

If we all agree, it's that Homosexualism is a *Bondage*, a demonic One!. And i personally believe that Homosexuals need Deliverance!... If i'm wrong correct me!. Homosexual feelings are caused by Demons right?.. So how can you be under possession of a Demon and claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit??????.. Can the both mix?. Can there be two Kings in a village?. One must leave for the other!..

So if you're Gay, then i think you have to first thinking about getting Delivered before baptism of the Holy Spirit.. Sorry but i find it puzzling, How can you be Gay and have the Holy Spirit?..lol. It's very funny to me :D..

Once again, i apologize for any offences that might be caused by this thread..
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Holy Spirit can not live inside the homosexual because he lives only in a christian. homosexual is not a christian, he is an unbeliever.
 
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victorwisdom said:
Holy Spirit can not live inside the homosexual because he lives only in a christian. homosexual is not a christian, he is an unbeliever.
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That's ignorant and not informed. Unless you know every single homosexual, you don't have any ability to say that.
 
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Holy Spirit can not live inside the homosexual because he lives only in a christian. homosexual is not a christian, he is an unbeliever.
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Seriously, that is one of the worst statements I have read on here. Besides Ada's anti-Semitic stuff.

By that logic all sinners are not Christians

Which means there are no Christians.
 
TheAristocat

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Tobby17 said:
Sorry if this will offend anybody, and by the way this is not a thread to ask if Homosexualism is a Sin or Not.. :D.. Like i said earlier, I'm sorry if this will offend anyone but i find it funny or i just try as much as possible not to burst into laughter when i see Homosexual or hear of one that says he is filled with the Holy Spirit or speak in tongues..:D. Forgive Me!, but i'm just like that...

If we all agree, it's that Homosexualism is a *Bondage*, a demonic One!. And i personally believe that Homosexuals need Deliverance!... If i'm wrong correct me!. Homosexual feelings are caused by Demons right?.. So how can you be under possession of a Demon and claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit??????.. Can the both mix?. Can there be two Kings in a village?. One must leave for the other!..

So if you're Gay, then i think you have to first thinking about getting Delivered before baptism of the Holy Spirit.. Sorry but i find it puzzling, How can you be Gay and have the Holy Spirit?..lol. It's very funny to me :D..

Once again, i apologize for any offences that might be caused by this thread..
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I think if David could prophesy then homosexuals can also prophesy. David murdered and comitted adultery. He was worse than a man who commits sodomy. But the good thing about him was that he had a heart that was willing to change. I think if you see a homosexual who is living a homosexual lifestyle and isn't concerned about changing or obeying God, then it might be a safer bet that he's not a prophet or even a Christian for that matter.
 
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I can't help but wonder what the purpose of this thread was and if it has been served. I also don't understand how someone who struggled with homosexuality in the past could post something this heartless. Seriously, if demons are involved, how funny could it possibly be?
 
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Try reading 1st John sometime. It's pretty clear. Anyone who willingly indulges in sin (ie. the selfishness nature) has not seen God much less know Him. The Holy Spirit is the Divine nature of God residing in you. The Holy Spirit's attributes is pure and holy just as God is pure and holy. How can a person be filled with the Divine nature yet willingly partake of the sinful selfish nature? Scripture is clear... a person can not have two masters for they will love (favor) one and despise (deny) the other.

 
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Try reading 1st John sometime. It's pretty clear. Anyone who willingly indulges in sin (ie. the selfishness nature) has not seen God much less know Him. The Holy Spirit is the Divine nature of God residing in you. The Holy Spirit's attributes is pure and holy just as God is pure and holy. How can a person be filled with the Divine nature yet willingly partake of the sinful selfish nature? Scripture is clear... a person can not have two masters for they will love (favor) one and despise (deny) the other.

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I agree. Everyone sins because the are human. BUT! Sinning and living in sin are two different things. That is the problem with Christians today. Asking for forgiveness does not mean that God turns his head when you decide to sin. You can't ask for forgiveness and then turn around and keep doing it. People take advantage of God's forgiveness. Of course God will forgive us, but if we ask for forgiveness and then turn around and live in the same sin again were we genuine in our prayer? I say no. If the beliefs I am reading were correct then a murderer could keep murdering because everyone sins. Sure murder is a sin, but everyone sins, right? People now live the way they want and use God as a pawn. It is a shame that people use him and his forgiveness in a way to defend homosexuality. Just my opinion, but I say no a homosexual can not be filled with the spirit. If you have read the above statement then you know why.
 
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I agree. Everyone sins because the are human. BUT! Sinning and living in sin are two different things. That is the problem with Christians today. Asking for forgiveness does not mean that God turns his head when you decide to sin. You can't ask for forgiveness and then turn around and keep doing it. People take advantage of God's forgiveness. Of course God will forgive us, but if we ask for forgiveness and then turn around and live in the same sin again were we genuine in our prayer? I say no. If the beliefs I am reading were correct then a murderer could keep murdering because everyone sins. Sure murder is a sin, but everyone sins, right? People now live the way they want and use God as a pawn. It is a shame that people use him and his forgiveness in a way to defend homosexuality. Just my opinion, but I say no a homosexual can not be filled with the spirit. If you have read the above statement then you know why.
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Agreed. There's a tremendous difference between stumbling into sin and willfully indulging in a sinful lifestyle. The Apostle John teaches us that when we stumble into sin, we do have an advocate with the Father who is always willing to forgive us when we humble ourselves and acknowledge our sin thus asking the Lord for His forgiveness and His strength (ie. repentance).

However, the willful indulgence of a sinful lifestyle such as homosexuality, adultery, theivery, whatever it might be is nothing nut pure selfishness which is complete contrary to the nature of God. This proves that we are being dominated by the desires of our flesh and not the Spirit.

While it is not my place to determine whether or not a person is or is not saved in such a sinful state, I will say this. You will reap what you sow thus you will be held accountable for your actions not only here in this life and the next also. When you sin in such a manner, God can not bless you because you have chosen to walk out from underneath His covering and made yourself an easy target for the enemy who roams the earth seeking those that he might devour.

 
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mori said:
I can't help but wonder what the purpose of this thread was and if it has been served. I also don't understand how someone who struggled with homosexuality in the past could post something this heartless. Seriously, if demons are involved, how funny could it possibly be?
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Purpose of this thread?. Well it's clear isn't it, i asked if it's possible for homosexuals to be filled with the Holy Spirit, i've had problems with it, so i simply asked. And ofcourse i couldn't get a straight forward answer people have different opinions. So yes the purpose of this thread has not being served that's why i stopped replying to the thread.

And my perspective about demons being involved with homosexuals, it's only what i believe. It might be right or wrong. By the way, Hislastwalk also struggles with homosexualism and he does as a matter of fact agree with me.

So mori, could you please explain to me what's so mean about this thread?
 
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God has spoken against it. And that same Spirit that was in Christ was in Paul, who spoke of it. In both the OT and the NT. And Jesus still speaks by that same Holy Spirit today concerning it. He has not allowed it. It is an abomination.

May Jesus bless you.
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Paul said one line about it once. And if you really wanna get into it, research temple prostitutes. He's not talking about consensual sex with someone you love, he's talking about having sex with a prostitute of the same sex at a pagan temple.
 
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so i simply asked.
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No, you didn't simply ask. Go back and read what you wrote. You may be backing away from it now, but it wasn't simply a question.
 
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Funny, by the way, that you think you might need to apologize for the offense the thread might cause, but when it does, you've suddenly done nothing wrong. Which is it?
 
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Funny, by the way, that you think you might need to apologize for the offense the thread might cause, but when it does, you've suddenly done nothing wrong. Which is it?
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Yes i did apologize because i laughed about it.. If this thread is improper, then i wonder why the mods don't have any problems with it..
 
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No, you didn't simply ask. Go back and read what you wrote. You may be backing away from it now, but it wasn't simply a question.
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So how do you define asking?
 
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Mori, im pretty sure there hasnt been a single person who struggles with homosexuality get offended on here, I struggled with it. Its not much of a struggle now, more like a little kid trying to push me over. More annoying lol but I wasnt offended, and the ones who struggle with it on here from what I can tell arent offended either so your comments are unjustified. Sorry
 
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I believe Jesus is God, the same God who said that one should not participate in homosexual relationships. Regardless of Paul's condemning it there's no place in the Bible where God condones it. And I think you'll find that any passage that touches on homosexuality actually condemns it. I think the closest you can get to homosexuality and still be in a godly relationship is just pure bromance. :D David and Jonathan had a lot of that going on. And that's something I'm cool with. :cool:
 
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FSUBoy966 said:
That's ignorant and not informed. Unless you know every single homosexual, you don't have any ability to say that.
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I will say this unequivocally. Anyone that lives and practices homosexuality or any other form of fornication or adultery or is fearful and lives in constant fear and has no conviction in their heart that these are sinful practices and an offense against the grace of God, that person will not inherit the kingdom of God. It does not matter how much they rationalize or justify their lifestyle or compare it to others, they are not going to inherit the kingdom of God and there will be NO exceptions. So mark it down and stop living in a false concept about the grace of God.

Homosexuality is ungodly and the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lust and to live righteously and godly in this present world (Titus 2;11,12). Anyone that practices homosexuality can not be filled with the HOLY SPIRIT. If I must say so, Thus saith the scriptures.

1Cor 6:9,10, 15:50, Gal 5:19-21, Rev 21:8

If any of you want to take a chance against those scriptures and think that you might have a chance, then you are unwise and do not know what the will of the Lord is concerning His righteousness.
 
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Yes.. I don't know how it sounds. But it isn't NATURAL for a male to be attracted to another male or for a female and a female to be attracted to each other.. So i say it's a Demon at work.Or?
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It's scary to see people call themselves christians and in some many ways be so judgmental and non compassionate. God did not deliver us from evil to judge and attack others. We will have sin one way or another. One sin does not weigh higher than the other. The reality is this if in fact homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God its no different than a straight man or woman committing adultery or anyone on this forum disobeying one of the ten commandments. God wants us to spread his word not push people away. Everyone connection to him is different and you wont be able to tell him how to judge another man or woman. The bible is our guide book NOT his ...so when it comes down to it saying something is wrong or right is not anyone of our place..but giving support so that whoever is in the dark can see the light. Sad to see this political debate thats sorta conservative vs liberal...GOD wants us all to follow him..some will see the light and some won't but its our job to help not discourage.
 
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The big part that you are missing with your statement is the fact that YOU ARE NOT GOD...and im sure you are aware that playing like its your place to judge ppl like you are GOD deciding their fates is sad. If you are unaware there are people who identify themselves as being "bi/confused" commiting a homosexual act at somepoint in their lives which is viewed as sin ask God for forgiveness and lives a clean life going forward serving God and you will tell me that according you radical beliefs they have to go to hell bc they are considered homosexual in your eyes? Im happy that we have a forgiving GOD hes so smart and he knows where each persons heart is..if its filled with lust and desire im sure holy spirit wont live there..it doesnt matter the sexual orientation. Maybe the confusion is the fact that generally speaking homosexuals live lifes that are full of lust and desire which is not good. If God was a snob and never gave second chances do you think you will have the ability to receive the holy spirit? My view is simple Be compassionate to all... especially those that are hoping to get on the right track and get a closer connection to God through the holy spirit. He wasnt a snob neither should you be one.
 
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So sad when you see ppl like yourself practicing hate like you are perfect. No one except for GOD is..so this idea of judging based on a bible which in my eyes is a guidebook for us NOT god to follow. He will decide each person fate not you or any other man that sins on this planet. Learn compassion.
 
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