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As much as I respect everyone's views, I don't appreciate being accused as 'not a true Christian'. Please don't let your own beliefs cloud your ability to be kind, gentle and compassionate to those who think differently. I am not interested in having a theological debate, as I am neither mature enough nor experienced enough. There are many people more educated than I (check out gaychristian.net). However this doesn't make me any less of a believer than you.
I hope the OP finds the peace and love he deserves, no matter what happens
Blessings x
I hope the OP finds the peace and love he deserves, no matter what happens
Blessings x
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But, what Jesus and God would say -about me- is really what matters, as you probably said.
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The reason I asked you about stress is directly related to this. Many homosexuals believe they are born that way, it is not a choice. I agree that they don't choose it but they are not born that way. It's proven that cortisol, the body's stress hormone causes many negative effects on the brain. One of these effects is on the development of the hippocampus and the amygdala, These are directly related to gender specification and preference. Extreme stress and long term stress prevent the proper growth and development of these areas in the brain. They are larger in males and smaller in females. The homosexual male's hippocampus and amygdala resemble the heterosexual female's, and the homosexual female's resembles the heterosexual male's in size and connectivity to the rest of brain. However, I also believe women are "turned on" more psychologically and that's how they can feel more natural with men and/or women. I'm sorry for your situation, I truly am. The scriptures don't make allowances for preferences or afflictions. I'm not really sure how God designed genders, whether the male/female connection to become "one" is almost like a polarity thing, like putting batteries in a series to create a circuit (?). All I can honestly say is that sexual activity for anything other than strengthening the bond with your heterosexual, monogamous mate and for procreation is just lustful. Lust is sin, plain and simple. Since preference seems to be a wiring in the brain, and the brain has the ability to be programmed and unprogrammed, I would strongly recommend to pray for God to help you with that reprogramming. It can be and has been done by many in the Exodus program. You have to want it though. You have to choose to want it. My prayers are with you. Choose life!
Its not about leading a "good Christian life" its about leading a life pleasing to God an to do what HE wants us to do...the flesh can want what it wants but doesn't mean its the right thing...We're here on this earth to bring Glory to God in all we do by following ALL His word and saying no to what we want...Im praying for you bro!! Know that He is Gd and he doesn't say things to take them back or change His mind...xx
Please forgive the intrusion. I was a teen and remember what it was like to want space and be left alone by the adults who think they know everything. However, this site is more like giving the teens a room with the door left open so adults who wander by can still hear what's going on. Sometimes things just need to be said. I agree with you 100% that when people enter your "space" you should receive respect and courtesy. I will leave you with a quote from Mark Twain, which pretty much sums it up.
[h=1]“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”[/h]
[h=1]“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”[/h]
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I don't mind adults replying to the teen chats if they give good advice and genuinely want to help you but sometimes people just come across like they think there better then us which for me just makes me not want to listen to them especially when people don't give actual advice and instead they just criticse u. It makes me feel like crap and that isn't what I'm here for. Tbh there's a lot of things I go through i don't post on here cos I know there's gonna be all negative responses which don't particularly help. Like it should be more positive and not looking down on us and focused on guiding rather then condemning. Some of this apples to the teens as well as the adults tbh but I've seen a lot of it with adults due to the age differences and that
First off, I'd like to say that I'm sick of all those "christians", saying "We shouldn't judge. We just should love and accept everybody. God loves us, and accepts us just the way we are." No. It doesn't work like that.The bible clearly states that homosexuality is a SIN.So, if it's a sin, why are you justifying it?Imagine I would go around, saying "It's okay to murder, to commit adultery and lie, God loves us, no matter what."You would take it as nonsense, wouldn't you? And you'll be saying, that's something completly different.But it's not. It's a sin as well as lying, or cheating or murdering.Levi, maybe you should take a look at this:What does the New Testament say about homosexuality?
If that's your opinion okay, but did you read what I said? it isn't a contradiction, it's the result of sin in the world, which tries to twist everything God has made and turn it around in a twisted way. Disease, famine, depression, and etc, all the result of sin in the world. That isn't a contridiction. It's very much biblical. The world only continues to get worst lol...
Life isn't about our emotions or feelings, it's about our obedience to God. if we truly love God we would follow his ways. If you think God can't change your orientation then the God you worship isn't my God because My God is the creator of the universe and prayer is your biggest weapon to reaching him. A good christian way of doing this would be not focusing on love and sex and focusing on jesus christ... do you think God can't lead you to a good woman? You're being prideful and selfish man. Having relationships with people isn't what life is about, and really it's just a reflection of how Jesus christ and the Church. You are 14 man? Don't let your hormones control you. Take this time and focus on God. You won't be able to get married anytime soon even if you DO have a relationship...
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It's interesting that both you and planetzorb state that the same sex attraction you both have is more about love than about sex. I think you are exactly right. I believe same sex attraction(homosexuality) is born when a child doesn't properly receive the love they need from a member of their same sex. Boys haven't didn't receive the kind of love they needed from a father who could teach and impart to them what it is to be a man. Girls didn't receive their identity from their mothers.
Whatever it is, it can be overcome if you truly want to overcome it. I will tell you homosexuality is a sin. I'll also say that I care about you guys and I would like to see you both grow into the men and women God wants you to be. God bless and please think about some of the things I have said and seek counseling to help be free from same sex attraction. Contact me if you want and I'll get some materials into your hands.
Whatever it is, it can be overcome if you truly want to overcome it. I will tell you homosexuality is a sin. I'll also say that I care about you guys and I would like to see you both grow into the men and women God wants you to be. God bless and please think about some of the things I have said and seek counseling to help be free from same sex attraction. Contact me if you want and I'll get some materials into your hands.
I wasn't going to post here because I believe more "mature" christians would have better comments on this post than I. However, I don't quite understand the purpose of pointing out one person's sin (rebuking, I understand that) and then leaving them high and dry. That's like saying someone is going to hell without pointing out the saving grace of Jesus. We should be lifting people up as well, right? Please forgive me if I'm wrong or I'm making assumptions. I'm always up for learning. I don't want to speak for anyone but I believe that's why the teens in this thread have responded as they did. Again please point out if I'm wrong, I'm always up for learning. And I say this with no disrespect to anyone.
The gay community considers their sexual orientation apart of their identity so when one calls it a sin it IS like you are attacking them personally. I hesitant to admit this because it's my shame to bare. I once considered myself bisexual. And, yes, I know it's a sin. God is changing my outlook in life and I'm SO thankful for his mercy, but I don't want to get off track in what I wanted to say...
Levi, I'm not sure what you were expecting when posting this on a Christian website. You seem like a smart guy. You are bound to have heard what the bible says about homosexuality and if you don't then I encourage you to look for yourself. I remember being 14 and how confusing it was. I hated it. I was too young to do anything but too old to do things as well. I think you are looking for who you are in all the wrong places though. Try looking to God to find who you are. You are trying to find love in all the wrong places. God loves you more than anyone on this planet. He's the only one who can satisfy that "need to be loved" feeling.
And imho people aren't born homosexual. You are NOT defined by who you are attracted to. *Really* think about that, doesn't that sound silly? It's okay to think outside the box in how this world wants you to perceive and take things.
Anyways, I hope I helped any ?? and not made things worse. That wasn't my intention of this post. Sometimes on this site I'm afraid to post because I think someone is gonna jump out of the bushes and attack me for my thoughts! Lol! Silly!
ALL I GOTTA SAY IS I COME IN PEACE
And I say this with no disrespect to anyone.The gay community considers their sexual orientation apart of their identity so when one calls it a sin it IS like you are attacking them personally. I hesitant to admit this because it's my shame to bare. I once considered myself bisexual. And, yes, I know it's a sin. God is changing my outlook in life and I'm SO thankful for his mercy, but I don't want to get off track in what I wanted to say...
Levi, I'm not sure what you were expecting when posting this on a Christian website. You seem like a smart guy.
You are bound to have heard what the bible says about homosexuality and if you don't then I encourage you to look for yourself. I remember being 14 and how confusing it was. I hated it. I was too young to do anything but too old to do things as well. I think you are looking for who you are in all the wrong places though. Try looking to God to find who you are. You are trying to find love in all the wrong places. God loves you more than anyone on this planet. He's the only one who can satisfy that "need to be loved" feeling. And imho people aren't born homosexual. You are NOT defined by who you are attracted to. *Really* think about that, doesn't that sound silly? It's okay to think outside the box in how this world wants you to perceive and take things.
Anyways, I hope I helped any ?? and not made things worse. That wasn't my intention of this post. Sometimes on this site I'm afraid to post because I think someone is gonna jump out of the bushes and attack me for my thoughts! Lol! Silly!
ALL I GOTTA SAY IS I COME IN PEACE
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I'm coming out and telling everyone that I love God's holiness and recognize it's preserving influence in my life and it's necessity to my spiritual growth inside where it matters.
As a celibate Christian for twenty-six years, I have no regrets for not engaging in sexual immorality with other people since choosing to follow Christ. Certainly sex is good within God's design but it is a very corruptive force outside of that and I seek freedom from all sinful corruptive entanglements. God's grace and love uphold the genuine Christian as God Himself patiently trains us in His holiness.
It's no small thing that God will patiently and lovingly strive with immoral people to steer them away from deception and sexual immorality into His holiness. And we praise Him for doing so.
But never forget this fact: God's love cannot be separated from God's holiness. They are inseparably intertwined in God's own nature and in reality itself. If it were otherwise, Christ would not have had to come.
Don't be part of this immoral deceived generation that rejects God's holiness. "Strive to enter through the narrow door..."
As a celibate Christian for twenty-six years, I have no regrets for not engaging in sexual immorality with other people since choosing to follow Christ. Certainly sex is good within God's design but it is a very corruptive force outside of that and I seek freedom from all sinful corruptive entanglements. God's grace and love uphold the genuine Christian as God Himself patiently trains us in His holiness.
It's no small thing that God will patiently and lovingly strive with immoral people to steer them away from deception and sexual immorality into His holiness. And we praise Him for doing so.
But never forget this fact: God's love cannot be separated from God's holiness. They are inseparably intertwined in God's own nature and in reality itself. If it were otherwise, Christ would not have had to come.
Don't be part of this immoral deceived generation that rejects God's holiness. "Strive to enter through the narrow door..."
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I know exactly how you feel and realized the same thing around your age.
The only real relationship I ever remember being happy, feeling butterflies, natural and excepted was with a female. This was hard for me to to come to terms with as I was suppose to be a Christian. So we were just friends ( who were a little more friendly than we should had been). But after entering my first real relationship with a guy I had to come to terms with the fact I was gay or lesbian to be more correct.
I accepted it but not in the way people say today. I knew God didn't plan it that way. I was fighting those feelings but the more I did the stronger it got. Until finally I gave up and told God please take always these feelings from me! Still I looked around the room and my eyes were on the females. I cried a pleased in the alter for hours...finally My soul gave it to God and found I wasn't the same. I was healed from homosexuality that day, BUT realized I said healed. That doesn't mean i don't face trials and those feeling over because I do. It's my thorn in my flesh, but I have become content with being single the rest of my life. I love God more than I love women or men.
So that's my testimony, simply fall in love with God, give it to Him and He'll work out the rest. If you want more details on anything just pm me and I'd love to help anyway I can. This is the first step and it's the hardest, having your sin exposed is always hard and uncomfortable. So congrats! Be keep seeking more of God because He has so much more for you
The only real relationship I ever remember being happy, feeling butterflies, natural and excepted was with a female. This was hard for me to to come to terms with as I was suppose to be a Christian. So we were just friends ( who were a little more friendly than we should had been). But after entering my first real relationship with a guy I had to come to terms with the fact I was gay or lesbian to be more correct.
I accepted it but not in the way people say today. I knew God didn't plan it that way. I was fighting those feelings but the more I did the stronger it got. Until finally I gave up and told God please take always these feelings from me! Still I looked around the room and my eyes were on the females. I cried a pleased in the alter for hours...finally My soul gave it to God and found I wasn't the same. I was healed from homosexuality that day, BUT realized I said healed. That doesn't mean i don't face trials and those feeling over because I do. It's my thorn in my flesh, but I have become content with being single the rest of my life. I love God more than I love women or men.
So that's my testimony, simply fall in love with God, give it to Him and He'll work out the rest. If you want more details on anything just pm me and I'd love to help anyway I can. This is the first step and it's the hardest, having your sin exposed is always hard and uncomfortable. So congrats! Be keep seeking more of God because He has so much more for you
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This is gonna be a really wierd ananology but in my head this is how God does prayers and that. Like you know in the sims how they have those little things which say what they want to do? e.g kiss someone or buy a workout machine and that sort of thing. that is like our prayers asking God to allow us to have something. And sometimes you give it to them because its a good thing for them and sometimes they do it in their own free will or sometimes you go no you cant kiss that person I have plans for you youre gonna be kissing this other person. So like God answers prayers if their good for you, he doesnt if hes plans are different to that and are better and greater, but then sometimes our free will gets in the way and we act before getting his answer or we ignore his answer. Before I do anything Im gonna wait for Gods reply and then Ill know.
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You sure aren't mistaking warm feelings for a friend for homoerotic feelings? It's natural good friends make you feel right, doesn't mean you immediately have to get in the sack with them. 'Findings your inner self' etc is a just bunch of new age nonsense, we find our true self only through and in Jesus Christ, like Augustine of Hippo said: 'You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you,' and Psalm 62:5 says: 'Yes, my soul, find rest in God; my hope comes from him.' We're essentially in hell because we're sinners WORTHY of hell, not because we can't find 'our true selves.' Acknowledging we're sinners is the first step towards salvation and reconciliaton with God.
God Bless.
God Bless.