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[dan1el]

I appreciate what you're saying there, nice to see that you aren't just sending us all to hell out of your ignorance about us. There's a lot of that going around. Let's not let this thread turn into an arguement thread though!

I didn't say that; I said the opposite: that the Lord told me you were His people, and not to speak a single word of hatred or rejection against you.

 

[Warrior44]

You must be Catholic; I'm not going to argue with you these things; I already know what that is like...

As far as you wanting to see evidence for these things -- wise men visiting Jesus on Dec 25th, etc., etc., etc., etc.,) check out "The Real Star of Bethlehem" for free @ The Real Star Of Bethlehem Part 1 of 7 - YouTube......

Whether or not she is Catholic is not relevant. The reality of it is she was using logic and verifiable truth to disprove your misconceptions. And you dont want to hear it. In other words you don't have to be Catholic to believe some of that stuff. Any intelligent non-Catholic can come to the same conclusions.

 

[dan1el]

Whether or not she is Catholic is not relevant. The reality of it is she was using logic and verifiable truth to disprove your misconceptions. And you dont want to hear it. In other words you don't have to be Catholic to believe some of that stuff. Any intelligent non-Catholic can come to the same conclusions.

O.K.; hope you enjoy the movie information on the actual birth date of Christ, etc.,.

 

[Warrior44]

You must be Catholic; I'm not going to argue with you these things; I already know what that is like...

As far as you wanting to see evidence for these things -- wise men visiting Jesus on Dec 25th, etc., etc., etc., etc.,) check out "The Real Star of Bethlehem" for free @ The Real Star Of Bethlehem Part 1 of 7 - YouTube......

O.K.; hope you enjoy the movie information on the actual birth date of Christ, etc.,.

I did thank you. But i hope you realize that Catholics were the first to celebrate the birth of Christ (way back before Protestants-they were just called Christians back then). Also we acknowledge that december 25th is most likely not the date of Christ's actual birth. But would you rather us not celebrate it because we don't know the actual date?

 

[dan1el]

I did thank you. But i hope you realize that Catholics were the first to celebrate the birth of Christ (way back before Protestants-they were just called Christians back then). Also we acknowledge that december 25th is most likely not the date of Christ's actual birth. But would you rather us not celebrate it because we don't know the actual date?

I don't celebrate Jesus's birth; it doesn't even occur to me to do so -- if you want to celebrate His birth, that is between you and Jesus Christ, as Romans 14 teaches.

 

[dscherck]

Woa! What church is that!?

Actually, it does kind of make sense. Though not in the way dan1el intends. Keep in mind that the devil can only imitate and mock Christ. So naturally, if they want to imitate Christ's Church, they have to start with the Catholic mass. Seeing as the guy in question claimed to be a member of a satanic cult he naturally would recognize the mass as being the legit version of what he mockingly participated in.

 

[dscherck]

They have no Scriptural basis for many of their dogmas; however, the Lord told me, "do not speak against them; they are My people" so I know that they are His people, in spite of these fallacies (God expends as much mercy on me as He does on them).

I've yet to find a single Catholic practice or belief that didn't have a good Scriptural foundation. Name one.

 

[dscherck]

I didn't say that; I said the opposite: that the Lord told me you were His people, and not to speak a single word of hatred or rejection against you.

So making up statistics and telling us that we don't have Scriptural basis for any of our dogmas isn't hatred or rejection?

 

[Tanny]

Yes ma'am! All the world youth day pilgrims received one as a personal gift from the Holy Father. i had one before though so now i have two. Very good book. Im working on reading it straight through. Do you have it?

well i heard mucg about it, so im gonna buy it, bcs. its very useful and i hope it will help me to understand some things... and its finally also in my language- slovak so im really happy about it .. i was just wondering if someone has it here : ).. bcs its pity that there arent more catholics... its much theyre missing.....

 

[Warrior44]

I don't celebrate Jesus's birth; it doesn't even occur to me to do so -- if you want to celebrate His birth, that is between you and Jesus Christ, as Romans 14 teaches.

Hmmm. We celebrate it because the birth of our Savior is a physical manifestation of the Fathers love for us sinners, a love so complete that He sent His only Son to die and save us from our sins. Its not just any old birthday to us. But each to his own I guess.

 

[Tanny]

Dear Dan1el, if u dont know this chat room isnt created to provocate catholics, to wrongly judge them.... as a christian you may know that God teaches us to love everybody, not to judge. so if yu want to ask something you can, we can talk normally about differents between catholics and other christian beliefs with you without problem. But please dont talk to us in the way youre doing it.
Thank you and God bless you +

 

[Warrior44]

well i heard mucg about it, so im gonna buy it, bcs. its very useful and i hope it will help me to understand some things... and its finally also in my language- slovak so im really happy about it .. i was just wondering if someone has it here : ).. bcs its pity that there arent more catholics... its much theyre missing.....

Yes it is very useful. I strongly recommend it. And i think there are many Catholic on cc. They may just choose to not post. But your right, its a pity that everyone isnt Catholic lol.

 

[Warrior44]

Actually, it does kind of make sense. Though not in the way dan1el intends. Keep in mind that the devil can only imitate and mock Christ. So naturally, if they want to imitate Christ's Church, they have to start with the Catholic mass. Seeing as the guy in question claimed to be a member of a satanic cult he naturally would recognize the mass as being the legit version of what he mockingly participated in.

Ahh ur right that does make sense.

 

[dan1el]

Hmmm. We celebrate it because the birth of our Savior is a physical manifestation of the Fathers love for us sinners, a love so complete that He sent His only Son to die and save us from our sins. Its not just any old birthday to us. But each to his own I guess.

Apostle Paul taught (in Romans 14) not to let ANY man judge/condemn me for observing (or NOT observing) any single day of the year (and that I also shouldn't judge anyone else), as long as the life I am living I am living as unto the Lord.
The Lord never commanded to celebrate His birthday, so I am not concerned with celebrating it; He gave a lot of other commandments, though, and they will judge me on the last day -- that is why I want to tell others about the Truth, and practice the Truth, myself. Thanks.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

Actually, if you read Revelation 2 & 3, you will see though there is a singular church, that singular church is comprised of many local churches; to say that a certain church is responsible for certain actions is not incorrect at all:

This is what I'm saying. You can't blame just one church for the actions of Christianity. (Well, you can, but it would be a lie.)

even Jesus addressed singular, localized churches -- was Jesus rejecting "Christianity" when He did this? I think not.

Woah, and they say we don't know Scripture.

Psst: Jesus never addressed any "singular, localized churches." Such were not in existence before his ascension to heaven.

Perhaps you meant PAUL? (See, I've joked that some evangelicals raise Paul above Jesus, but you're the first person I've met who actually confused the two!)

Paul addressed singular churches. No, that is not a rejection of Christianity. I never said addressing a local church was a rejection of Christianity.

Paul never addressed the church at Rome and said, "Wow, you should see those stupid people in Corinth, they have no clue what they are doing, they're just wrong."

But this is exactly what anyone does when they attack any denomination.

Paul addressed specific problems to the specific places they needed addressing. He didn't accuse any church of being not a church ... he simply corrected them where they needed it. As should we.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

You must be Catholic; I'm not going to argue with you these things; I already know what that is like...

For the record, I am Episcopalian. We generally consider ourselves part of the Catholic Church ("Catholic" means "Universal") but we are certainly not RCC, nor any of the other rites listed in the poll.

And it doesn't surprise me that you're used to losing arguments to Catholics. It's not something I'd brag about if I were you.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

I appreciate what you're saying there, nice to see that you aren't just sending us all to hell out of your ignorance about us. There's a lot of that going around. Let's not let this thread turn into an arguement thread though!

LOL, sorry rodogg. You're at least 13 pages too late

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

Apostle Paul taught (in Romans 14) not to let ANY man judge/condemn me for observing (or NOT observing) any single day of the year (and that I also shouldn't judge anyone else), as long as the life I am living I am living as unto the Lord.
The Lord never commanded to celebrate His birthday, so I am not concerned with celebrating it; He gave a lot of other commandments, though, and they will judge me on the last day -- that is why I want to tell others about the Truth, and practice the Truth, myself. Thanks.

I actually agree with you here: if a person chooses not to celebrate some specific day as some specific occurrence in the life of Christ, that is their right to do so.

I do, however, take issue with anyone who criticizes catholics (and others) of being "Pagan" when they themselves have a Christmas Tree in their house, or get up-in-arms that the Walmart Clerk said, "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." I see that you have not done that.

Though you still haven't indicated how you manage to take the Pagan out of Easter.

 

[Tanny]

For the record, I am Episcopalian. We generally consider ourselves part of the Catholic Church ("Catholic" means "Universal") but we are certainly not RCC, nor any of the other rites listed in the poll.

And it doesn't surprise me that you're used to losing arguments to Catholics. It's not something I'd brag about if I were you.

Meybe it will sound stupid but i dont hear much about episcopalian.... ure part of catholics right? well tell me smthing abot that

 

[dan1el]

I actually agree with you here: if a person chooses not to celebrate some specific day as some specific occurrence in the life of Christ, that is their right to do so.

I do, however, take issue with anyone who criticizes catholics (and others) of being "Pagan" when they themselves have a Christmas Tree in their house, or get up-in-arms that the Walmart Clerk said, "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." I see that you have not done that.

Though you still haven't indicated how you manage to take the Pagan out of Easter.

"Easter" is pagan, for certain; Pesach is the true (Hebrew) celebration (it is the remembrance of the Passover -- Christ is our Pesach Lamb). ..

But, so is the word "God" (pagan), I'm told ("Got/Gott" was the German word for Baal, I'm told [sp?]) -- so, there is a point where it matters, and a point where it is going overboard.

I don't put Christmas trees in my house, and I just see it as Bible Prophecy being fulfilled when I see people say, "Happy Holidays", instead of "Merry Christmas"(people wanting to erase the mention of Yeshua and YHWH), and I worry about myself -- whether I am prepapred, and if not, HOW to prepare better for what is to come.