Gay Christian?

[cmarieh]

Okay I am going to make this clear. NOBODY WHO IS PRACTICING THE GAY LIFESTYLE IS RIGHT WITH GOD. I don't mean to sound judgemental, but God does make it crystal clear in the bible. In Matthew 7:15-20 it says, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. That is what I am coming from. Before people start going around saying that people who are in blatant disregard for what God teaches read what God has taught us in his word.

Again, I am sorry for sounding awful, but it really bothered me that you thought people are okay with God if they are practicing homosexuals. Don't get me wrong God loves them so much, but he hates the sin. The only way for them to be right is for them to repent and turn away from their sin

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It is in scripture we find the proper relationship between God's moral law and His agape love.

Two equal and opposite dangers must be avoided:

1. Legalism effectively ousts agape love as a dynamic of the gospel and the Christian life by reducing both to obedience or conformity to a set of external commands or rules (after the manner of the scribes and Pharisees in the gospels).

2. Its opposite, antinomianism, ousts God's moral law as a dynamic of the gospel and the Christian life. Antinomianism is heresy that tells Christians it's OK to forget about God's law and concentrate solely on agape love... a course which is a justification for degeneration and immoral licence, such as homosexual marriage, rather than promoting the true Christian liberty (i.e. freedom from sin).

God is both loving AND HOLY. As 1 Peter 1:16 states, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”

The Gospel of Jesus Christ and God's grace in Jesus Christ frees the Christian from erroneous tendencies to ignore either God's love or His holiness but only if Christians respectfully strive to follow God's moral law and practice agape love.

The message that it is God's will that we abstain from sexual immorality is repeated throughout scripture:

"As for other matters, brothers and sisters, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit." -1 Thessalonians 4:1-8.

In light of God's Word, I'm trying to figure out why a 56 year old male that identifies as a homosexual is preaching the heresy of antinomianism in a young adult forum.

Would you be so kind as to answer my question, do you engage in homosexual sex acts with other males?

Looking forward to your reply.

Halleluah for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because God just love us all and it is between God and that person, not anyone else. All I can ever convey is God just love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. That is the foundation and then grow, and build and see that God does just love you, then between God and you you will eiter agree to change or and not, we all still have free choice no matter what anyone else says
I personally am Gay, Being Happy that is, as waht was the true meaning of gay way back when. Everyone is free, just stay away from harming others. love thy neighbor as God has loved you period

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Us 100% celibate and 100% sober godly Christians may not be perfect Grey but we certainly are not scripturally disqualified from rightly dividing and sharing God's Word out of love to help those who have been deceived by the devil and taken captive to do his will in a life of great sexual immorality with others. If that's not bad enough, they come on CC and tell young people that it's OK to live an ungodly, unholy, sexually immoral life with other people.

"In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived." -2 Timothy 3:12-13

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." -2 Timothy 3:16-17

Its interesting to see people publicly condemn homosexual Christians as being averse to the bibles teachings yet remain silent on their own moral failures.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I'm rereading the posts. I may have misunderstood. Upon closer inspection, it now looks like he is saying he's 'gay' in the old sense of the word (e.g. happy) not the new sense of the word (e.g. homosexual). Delete "identifies as a homosexual" from my previous post as it may be in error. My argument against antinomianism stands, however.

 

[marrion]

when Adam and Eve disobeyed God’s Word, all men born of a woman, from then on, were considered “born in sin, shaped in inquity,came to this world speaking lies”, all sinners in the eyes of God.Thats why Jesus said we must be born again.until we are born again we will fulfill our sinful nature and desire in a number of ways.we have a natural thirst for love but we try to quench that thirst with sinful activity.Homosexuals need to be born again.unfortunately once entangled in homosexuality it seems one of the hardest sins to come out of but what is impossible with man is possible with God.My best friend was a lesbian and she was really cool.She had rejection and abandonment issues because her dad not only denied that she was his but chose a new wife over her and her mother.i reallyloved being around her and I felt Gods love for her too although I could never convince her to change her lifestyle.i believe only God can change homsexuals as with any other sinner.All these programs people have don't seem to work really well.They just seem to suppress the sin but Jesus can give us a new nature and desire.

 

[Propensity]

What I am about to write here is never easy to admit. I am not proud of the way I feel. But each time I tell others my story, it becomes a little easier to breathe when I can reveal to others who I am and what I face.

I just want to clarify that, "who I am" will always be more than simply the struggles I may face in this life. I believe that though I may not be exactly what God wants me to be now, in this moment, every day He is making me into what He always knew I could become.

When I reflect on my life as a Christian who daily struggles with strong sexual and emotional attractions towards other females, I often feel like such a failure. I have felt this way ever since I was sexually abused one afternoon by a female baby-sitter when I was about 6 or 7 years old. It may sound terrible to admit, but I somewhat enjoyed what my abuser was doing to me at the time. At such a young age, I never realized what she did to me was wrong. From that day on, I was drawn to girls, wanting to write love letters and such and always seeking what I once felt with my abuser. I know all this may seem messed up. It was in a way. But this is my story. I had crushes on many of my close girlfriends, though I never told them, and often pushed them away when I felt the attractions might cause me to do something I regret. Because of this battle within myself, I pushed away a lot of amazing friends. The first person I truly fell in love with was my roommate in college. I had begun to cut myself because I was so sick of not being able to turn off my attractions toward girls. I knew God must have been throughly disappointed in me that by then I hadn't gotten my "crap" together. I finally told my roommate what I was struggling with on a prayer retreat, expecting that she might freakout on me. It took her by surprise, but she didn't push me away. In fact she loved me as a friend and for the most part tried her best to protect our friendship and not let my attractions towards her get in the way. Sometimes trying isn't enough. I won't go into details, but I felt our friendship had changed. Eventually she graduated and wanted to stay in touch, though she was leaving the country. I told her never to contact me. It was just too hard to see her go, and too confusing to continue our relationship, yet I loved her very much.

Fast forward till now, after more than three years of counseling with a renown Christian sex-therapist, I felt like I had discovered almost all there is to know about homosexuality from a Christian and Secular standpoint. I know now that even though I was sexually abused just once, it somehow changed something deep within me. I also know that it is more than simply that. I am not blaming my abuser for the way my life is now or the way it has turned out so far. Their are many people who have been abused that somehow have risen above all that pain and allowed God to heal them. My mother is example of just how powerful the love and healing of Christ can be. She was raped by her father on numerous occasions as a young child and out of all her siblings, she is the only one who can actually say that she has forgiven him and prays that God will bring him to Himself one day before he dies. You see, no matter what our earthly fathers may do, they are still our fathers. I do not write that easily or flippantly.

All this to say, I don't know if one day I will ever be free from this struggle I have. Honestly I am quite weary. Yet when I think of this quote by Theodore Roosevelt, it gives me courage.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

 

[marrion]

propensity your story is very encouraging and I commend you on your fighting sprit not willing to accept the havoc that the sexual abuse is trying to wreak in your life.i was abused as a young child too and it took me years to realize that the abuse can actually transfer a curse of perversion and lust on someone.i suffered many symptoms of the ause that I was unaware of before but once I broke the curse I was set free.people really do suffer and perish for lack of knowledge.i suffered for a long time from low self esteem,lust,low self worth,i was antisocial and found it really hard to make friends.The crazy thing is that I always hated the person who sexually abused me without really knowing why.he had abused my cousin and I had always suspected something then God allowed me to know for sure.Then the healing began.ive forgiven him without him even knowing.i have been set free and filled with the love of Jesus which does not allow me to harbor hate or unfrgiveness to anyone.

 

[willfollowsGod]

First of all can you be a Christian and have the joy of the Lord? Yes, can a person have same-sex attraction and not consider themselves homosexual, etc.? Yes. If one is a Christian, should one identify themselves as ''gay'' or a homosexual Christian? I say no, for Christians we should follow what God says about sexuality, marriage, etc and not what the world says. We should love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength and love our neighbor as ourself. Hate the sin but love the sinner. But if someone is struggling with this, ask for prayer, if you are not a Christian ask Christ into your life and you will start to change. True you may be hated because the homosexual activists believe that sexual orientation is unchangeable, it has never happened, etc and many send death threats, hate mail, etc to ministries who through God are saving people from all walks of life. If we do encounter a homosexual, if possible we can show hospitality, because when it comes to that movement, one of their fortitudes is showing hospitality to their community. Instead of quickly pointing out that homosexuality is a sin or quickly inviting them to church, show God's love and build a relationship with them. That is what it takes. A Christian is one who has been declared holy by God and who strives for God's holiness. The opposite of homosexuality is not heterosexuality, it is holiness. This comes from Christ and Christ alone not the world. God bless and continue to reach those who do not know Jesus as their Savior and Lord.

 

[prangel]

We are all looking for love one way or another. we sometimes get lost for whatever reason. A personal relationship with Jesus Christ, Deuteronomy 4:29 pray on your knees with your head to the ground and ask Jesus to show you the way and help you. If you believe in God and Jesus then you must believe everything in the bible, not just what is good for you at the moment. For if you want to be honest we all are sinner one way or the other. If we where not we would not need Jesus Christ, so be carefully for we are all children of God except some have lost there way. They need help, we all do at some point in our life one way or another. May God bless us all and show us the way...

 

[prangel]

Propensity, you are a strong woman thank you for sharing your story I'm sure it will help a lot of people. May God bless you, proverbs 3:5

 

[homwardbound]

Do you engage in homosexual acts with other males?

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a question, NO, not for me, and I do not have the right to condemn anyone else, for any of their acts, since God decided to take away all sins through his death. I appreciate this and can't harm my neighbor, maybe you can, and justify it, by it being an abomination, when sis is sin no matter how big or small. And I adhere to this: May you might think about it:

2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

So go ahead and condemn others, for truthfully by that we condemn selves all over again, and do n ot know the truth from God through Christ.

So do you believe God just love you or not?

 

[homwardbound]

Okay I am going to make this clear. NOBODY WHO IS PRACTICING THE GAY LIFESTYLE IS RIGHT WITH GOD. I don't mean to sound judgemental, but God does make it crystal clear in the bible. In Matthew 7:15-20 it says, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. That is what I am coming from. Before people start going around saying that people who are in blatant disregard for what God teaches read what God has taught us in his word.

Again, I am sorry for sounding awful, but it really bothered me that you thought people are okay with God if they are practicing homosexuals. Don't get me wrong God loves them so much, but he hates the sin. The only way for them to be right is for them to repent and turn away from their sin

So what is it that you are practicing, and gives you the right to condemn, for all have sinned and fallen short of God, truth or not?
have you quit sinning? I am not saying I am for sin, because I am not, and there many people that believe and are not for sinning against God or others, and somehow are trapped in lust of the flesh, through puberty and are asking and looking top God not to have lust od the flesh. Now this type of lust doe not stop at being Gay. It goes much deeper.
So to all you who are looking for truth in God that sets you free, start in believing God did this for you at the cross
Colossians 1:22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Read it from :
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

To get the whole truth and stand fast in God delivering you to LOVE as in 1 Cor. 13:4-13. God's type of Love that God has for you and all the believe in God. Given to you by the resurrected Christ whom is justified in the Spirit. you God's free gift to you being born again, by God
Those that believe see and receive, between God and them.

 

[homwardbound]

It is in scripture we find the proper relationship between God's moral law and His agape love.

Two equal and opposite dangers must be avoided:

1. Legalism effectively ousts agape love as a dynamic of the gospel and the Christian life by reducing both to obedience or conformity to a set of external commands or rules (after the manner of the scribes and Pharisees in the gospels).

2. Its opposite, antinomianism, ousts God's moral law as a dynamic of the gospel and the Christian life. Antinomianism is heresy that tells Christians it's OK to forget about God's law and concentrate solely on agape love... a course which is a justification for degeneration and immoral licence, such as homosexual marriage, rather than promoting the true Christian liberty (i.e. freedom from sin).

God is both loving AND HOLY. As 1 Peter 1:16 states, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”

The Gospel of Jesus Christ and God's grace in Jesus Christ frees the Christian from erroneous tendencies to ignore either God's love or His holiness but only if Christians respectfully strive to follow God's moral law and practice agape love.

The message that it is God's will that we abstain from sexual immorality is repeated throughout scripture:

"As for other matters, brothers and sisters, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit." -1 Thessalonians 4:1-8.

In light of God's Word, I'm trying to figure out why a 56 year old male that identifies as a homosexual is preaching the heresy of antinomianism in a young adult forum.

Would you be so kind as to answer my question, do you engage in homosexual sex acts with other males?

Looking forward to your reply.

Do you understand the love of God, as in 1 cor. 13:4-13
Can any flesh, yours, mine or anyone's here on earth do this type of Love
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:4-13[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; [SUP]5 [/SUP]does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; [SUP]6 [/SUP]does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; [SUP]7 [/SUP]bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

No the above type of Love is God's type and on in the Spirit of God can this type of Love be shown.
This is the born again type of Love from God through the cross of Christ.

Matthew 12:37
For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

Romans 9:15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion

cry for Mercy, there is a lot more to things than what you are seeing. Should Christ then have condemned Mary Magdalena. Should have condemned the Tax Collectors and Prostitutes?

Should we all not have been condemned, Is God's grace Conditional?
When God went to the cross to take away the sin of then world, was it all sin or just a select amount?
When you accepted and believed God that God took all sin away, did Go9d just do this for you, when you still do sin from time to time?
So when your obedience is:
2 Corinthians 10:5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
2 Corinthians 10:5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ

So I am sure, no one has to worry over being punished by others, because only Christ's obedience is perfect.
End of Story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now it is my hope that we all refrain any further from harming one another over dogma as if I am right and you are wrong
God is a Merciful God and has been from day one
Matthew 9:13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

So which is it under Law, condemnation or God's grace, that frees one to do what is right between God and them, Romans 14 a good chapter on this. as well as
Matthew 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
Matthew 23:14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation
Mark 7:6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me.

So are you perfect in the sight of God?

 

[homwardbound]

What I am about to write here is never easy to admit. I am not proud of the way I feel. But each time I tell others my story, it becomes a little easier to breathe when I can reveal to others who I am and what I face.

I just want to clarify that, "who I am" will always be more than simply the struggles I may face in this life. I believe that though I may not be exactly what God wants me to be now, in this moment, every day He is making me into what He always knew I could become.

When I reflect on my life as a Christian who daily struggles with strong sexual and emotional attractions towards other females, I often feel like such a failure. I have felt this way ever since I was sexually abused one afternoon by a female baby-sitter when I was about 6 or 7 years old. It may sound terrible to admit, but I somewhat enjoyed what my abuser was doing to me at the time. At such a young age, I never realized what she did to me was wrong. From that day on, I was drawn to girls, wanting to write love letters and such and always seeking what I once felt with my abuser. I know all this may seem messed up. It was in a way. But this is my story. I had crushes on many of my close girlfriends, though I never told them, and often pushed them away when I felt the attractions might cause me to do something I regret. Because of this battle within myself, I pushed away a lot of amazing friends. The first person I truly fell in love with was my roommate in college. I had begun to cut myself because I was so sick of not being able to turn off my attractions toward girls. I knew God must have been throughly disappointed in me that by then I hadn't gotten my "crap" together. I finally told my roommate what I was struggling with on a prayer retreat, expecting that she might freakout on me. It took her by surprise, but she didn't push me away. In fact she loved me as a friend and for the most part tried her best to protect our friendship and not let my attractions towards her get in the way. Sometimes trying isn't enough. I won't go into details, but I felt our friendship had changed. Eventually she graduated and wanted to stay in touch, though she was leaving the country. I told her never to contact me. It was just too hard to see her go, and too confusing to continue our relationship, yet I loved her very much.

Fast forward till now, after more than three years of counseling with a renown Christian sex-therapist, I felt like I had discovered almost all there is to know about homosexuality from a Christian and Secular standpoint. I know now that even though I was sexually abused just once, it somehow changed something deep within me. I also know that it is more than simply that. I am not blaming my abuser for the way my life is now or the way it has turned out so far. Their are many people who have been abused that somehow have risen above all that pain and allowed God to heal them. My mother is example of just how powerful the love and healing of Christ can be. She was raped by her father on numerous occasions as a young child and out of all her siblings, she is the only one who can actually say that she has forgiven him and prays that God will bring him to Himself one day before he dies. You see, no matter what our earthly fathers may do, they are still our fathers. I do not write that easily or flippantly.

All this to say, I don't know if one day I will ever be free from this struggle I have. Honestly I am quite weary. Yet when I think of this quote by Theodore Roosevelt, it gives me courage.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Thank you for your honesty, Much appreciated, for this is what Gods wants, not fakes, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[didymos]

Do you engage in homosexual acts with other males?

... is there any other way?

 

[hootowl]

Hi Lyndies

Don't worry about it. If you have gay friends love them make them feel comfortable around you. Just forget what goes on in their bedroom.

They are nice people and the few bigots in here do not matter. If they found out no heaven they would be cursing God too.

As for the misguided opinion all Gays are Catholic that is total rubbish.

Gay practices are found everywhere. I called them practices because they are also used by a lot of Christian people who like to do it that way and also for birth control. Maybe some in here should start reading their sex therapy books.

I do admit men of the cloth have been caught but not all are Catholic there are clergymen etc even JW.

The sentence God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve is the only ammunition they have to throw.
If this is the case and sex is only to multiply barren people who marry are fornicating and their marriage is sin.

Karma says "what people do is their Karma" How we react is our Karma

Hope this helps a little from a None Catholic None Gay None Christian

Hoot Owl

 

[TheAristocat]

YES- BEING GAY IS A SIN! NO I AM NOT GAY! Why are gay people always trying to justify their sin! IT IS SIN. Not sayin you are,as you have said you arent: but homossexuality is an abomination before God and man alike-unless you are gay,of course! (or so they would have people believe).
When god created us it wasn't adam and steve-it was adam and eve!! also note that most gay people are also Catholic=think about this when the catholic priests are caught MOLESTING YOUNG BOYS! There is nothing to be unclear about,this is exactly right-homos will all be judged by God-and it won't go well for them. I'll get away from this now,or I will get vexed even more..

smells like a poe

 

[TheAristocat]

If this is the case and sex is only to multiply[,] barren people who marry are fornicating and their marriage is sin.

There is one encouraging aspect about homosexuality: natural selection. Meaning, if they're born this way they're certainly not going to have any progeny to pass that trait on to. So I guess it's a win-win situation for everyone. That is, unless you want a child of your own with your loved one. Then it kind of sucks.

 

[DragonSlayer]

Upfront (not that it matters), I am not gay.

That being said, I don't know how I feel about whether or not being gay and acting on it is a sin or not...but right now, I'm thinking that it's not. Again: I DON'T KNOW ECACTLY HOW I FEEL.

I know all of the verses that people use to point out that it is wrong and not how God created it.

BUT, I've also heard views on the other side of it. I also study a bit of ancient history in school and know that man-on-man action in the Bible wasn't what it is today. Then, it was talking about rape and that has never been ok. (I also don't have all the facts on this.)

I know Christians who are gay and are ok with God. They feel that it is not a sin (and I know they aren't justifying their sin by saying this--they've actually experienced God's comfort in who they are with this...meaning that they are gay).

So, I was wondering if anyone on here is gay and would like to share how they feel in their relationship with God on this.

Comments from straight people are welcome, too, of course.

I've just been incredibly curious and confused about this for a while.

It's an oxymoron. It's like saying murderer christian. Or demon angel. It doesn't make any sense.
It's simple really.
A man is a man. And a woman is a woman.

Anyone telling otherwise is gravely disturbed and needs repentance and healing from the Lord ! Period.

 

[homwardbound]

Bottom line God does just love us all. And here is where it all starts, and will be, if you believe God loves you, beyond anyone else here on this earth, you will be shown the truth and you will ne set free from all the bondage traps here in this world that beset everyone of us, in some way, as the world turns.
So maybe lets take a look at as God turns.
[h=3]John 3:16[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life