I want to die

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We are here to pick you up... NOT be your legs.
 
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Boy! You really took that out of context, huh? ;)
This is why most of the spouting of Scripture here means very little to me. I usually just ignore the scripture, to an extent, when people do that, and focus on the "conclusion" they walk away from that quoting with.
 

blue_ladybug

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The problem is that sometimes, no matter how we pray or try to persevere with God, people will still die of cancer, people will still get taken from us, and we will have to live with things we have no control over.

It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting, because that is the end of every man, and the living takes it to heart. Sorrow is better than laughter, for when a face is sad a heart may be happy. The mind of the wise is in the house of mourning, while the mind of fools is in the house of pleasure. (Eccl. 7:2-4, NASB)

I'd rather have a sad truth than a happy lie.
Not everyone will survive going through cancer, or whatever disease. This life is guaranteed to bring us both pleasure AND sadness. God bottles up each one of our tears, and will return them to us as tears of joy one day soon. :) We can't all be happy all the time, and we can't all be sad all the time. People smile at a newborn baby, while others shed tears at the funeral of a loved one. Life goes on and so must we.

The verses you gave here, look at them like this: "It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting". This could mean that even though you're happy, you could go cheer up or comfort someone who is sad. Too much of anything is bad, and that's what the "because that is the end of every man and the living take it to heart" means. Look at celebrities, they have mansions and cars and money. But it doesn't bring them true happiness, only God can deliver that. And when the money runs out, guess what happens? The mansions get sold into foreclosure and the cars get auctioned off and the celebs end up with nothing, and they mourn their unimportant losses.

"Sorrow is better than laughter, for when a face is sad, a heart may be happy." You could liken this to someone who has just lose a loved one to an accident, and that victim is an organ donor. Enter a patient who desperately needs one of those organs. The family of the deceased and the family of the patient, are both mourning, BUT the family of the victim agrees to the organ donation, and the transplant works, then both families rejoice that one person is alive, because of another person's selfless sacrifice to donate their organs. Thus, they have joy in the midst of sorrow. :)

"The mind of the wise is in the house of mourning, while the mind of fools is in the house of pleasure." You could liken this to someone wise being smart enough to assess a less fortunate person's situation and offer help, rather than standing far off and watch them suffer with nothing while you have an abundance of everything.

Do you see the point and lesson I'm trying to teach you in these scenarios? Take action, make a difference, don't sit on your butt like a useless bump on a log.. Do good things for others and good things will be returned to you. God promises that. :)
 
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I agree with you, Willie. Our life is our choice.

I like what Henry Ford said, too:
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."

I posted this on another thread, but it's appropriate here as well:


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blue_ladybug

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Princess, we choose how our lives can be. We can choose to be miserable and stay mired in sadness, or we can choose to be happy and let that define how our lives go and how we treat others. You seem to want to stay and wallow in sadness.
 
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Boy! You really took that out of context, huh? ;)
I won't do that FOR you, but I will show you how to do it for yourself. You quoted two tiny verses from Eccl. 7. Open up your Bible and discover what the writer was actually saying as he gave each of the many examples throughout that chapter. (If you get lazy again, it's summed up for you in the last couple of lines of the chapter.)
 
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Princess, we choose how our lives can be. We can choose to be miserable and stay mired in sadness, or we can choose to be happy and let that define how our lives go and how we treat others. You seem to want to stay and wallow in sadness.
I just happen to prefer truth to lies. Truth by its very nature is offensive. No matter how much you want, you can't make 2+2=5. You can't a square round. And you can't avoid suffering so you might as well embrace it.
 

blue_ladybug

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I just happen to prefer truth to lies. Truth by its very nature is offensive. No matter how much you want, you can't make 2+2=5. You can't a square round. And you can't avoid suffering so you might as well embrace it.
Of course truth can be offensive. Especially to those who don't want to hear it. Jesus is the truth, and yes, he was offensive at times. And you're right, we can't avoid suffering, so we MUST embrace it and endure through. After all, Jesus endured being whipped, stripped, beaten and tortured and nailed to the cross. He endured taunts and insults and slurs against him. If HE could do it, then WE can do it. :)
 
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Of course truth can be offensive. Especially to those who don't want to hear it. Jesus is the truth, and yes, he was offensive at times. And you're right, we can't avoid suffering, so we MUST embrace it and endure through. After all, Jesus endured being whipped, stripped, beaten and tortured and nailed to the cross. He endured taunts and insults and slurs against him. If HE could do it, then WE can do it. :)
I'm sorry but that last sentence isn't true. Suicide is what happens when people can't take anymore. Jesus also redeemed the world, and we obviously can't do that.
 
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I just happen to prefer truth to lies. Truth by its very nature is offensive. No matter how much you want, you can't make 2+2=5. You can't a square round. And you can't avoid suffering so you might as well embrace it.
Ya know, most of us here care about you..... BUT we do not care enough about you to sit in your mud puddle with you and remain there trying to feel miserable for the rest of our lives. All of us will eventually get up, and go back to trying to be positive for someone else who will accept the help. Sure, we will have a sad moment each time we see another of your "life is so tough" posts, but we will usually keep walking right past you to someone else who isn't just sitting, but is struggling to stand, and we will give our help where it is useful... not wasted.

You might want to think about that. Because you could be right beside us, helping that other person get to their feet. That is what we are here for.............. not to be constantly asking for help we don't intend to accept.
 

blue_ladybug

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I'm sorry but that last sentence isn't true. Suicide is what happens when people can't take anymore. Jesus also redeemed the world, and we obviously can't do that.
Anyone who has God in them and with them, can endure through. As far as suicide, then I'm the walking dead because I've tried and failed more than once. I failed because I didn't really want to die, I just wanted the pain to stop. Jesus showed me that HE was and is my permanent solution to my temporary circumstances. :) We can't redeem the world, but we CAN redeem ourselves by letting Jesus work in our lives. :)
 

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I just happen to prefer truth to lies. Truth by its very nature is offensive. No matter how much you want, you can't make 2+2=5. You can't a square round. And you can't avoid suffering so you might as well embrace it.
Many people don't want to hear the truth. I reckon thats why the Pharisees wanted Jesus dead.
Don’t let the common core people hear you say 2+2 doesn't equal 5.
Good idea, embrace the suck.

I have been a miserable soul most my life. People generally don't like being around Debbie downer. One day I was listening to this Jewish guy who has a radio show out in California named Denis Prager. He said if you act happy, then eventually you will be happy. He was right, and people around town want to be around me more. And I have been feeling happier.
 

blue_ladybug

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Willie T is a very wise man. He has over 20 years experience with helping lost causes who really weren't so lost after all. If I remember correctly, he even has a prison ministry (I think, lol). You would do well to listen to him. :)
 
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Life ain't all roses for us, either. But is it a help to for us to cry louder than you..... OR for us to try to smile? I happen to know some of the stories here, and I'm pretty sure that some of the people right here in this thread are, right now, going through more than you are.... yet they are smiling, trying to show you a more positive outlook.

I was down last week and one of the people here came to my aid. I would, frankly, have enjoyed sobbing and blubbering for at least another week or so, but that person showed me I am needed back out here in the sh,,,,,, (crummy) world giving people like you the kind of kick in the butt that I have to offer. And I am here now, telling you we love you, but want you to at least try to make yourself available to help others..... only because she gave me a few "encouraging" moments of her not-so-great life.

How about it? Are you willing to set a limit to this pity party of yours, and get back in the game? You can have a day or two more, but it is up to you to decide to put an end to it.
 

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I always listen to elders. There wise and usally know what Theiß doing.
 
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Willie T is a very wise man. He has over 20 years experience with helping lost causes who really weren't so lost after all. If I remember correctly, he even has a prison ministry (I think, lol). You would do well to listen to him. :)
Didn't you hear him in his last post?
 

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Of course truth can be offensive. Especially to those who don't want to hear it. Jesus is the truth, and yes, he was offensive at times. And you're right, we can't avoid suffering, so we MUST embrace it and endure through. After all, Jesus endured being whipped, stripped, beaten and tortured and nailed to the cross. He endured taunts and insults and slurs against him. If HE could do it, then WE can do it. :)
If we could do what He did, then wouldn't be that mean we wouldn't need Him? The "God doesn't give you stuff you can't handle" isn't necessarily true because then that would mean we could handle it without Him. You didn't say that, but that's the common theme among Christians.
 

blue_ladybug

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If we could do what He did, then wouldn't be that mean we wouldn't need Him? The "God doesn't give you stuff you can't handle" isn't necessarily true because then that would mean we could handle it without Him. You didn't say that, but that's the common theme among Christians.
Obviously you have missed my posts where I said WITHOUT God we can do nothing. WITH God, we can do anything. We can move mountains, raise the dead, all with His power and in His name. Or are you doubting what God can do and what we can do with him in our lives?