Ukraine the bad guy?

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Fundaamental

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Read Genesis and Jacob's blessings to his children. The blessing to Joseph is the blessing to scientists.

22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel)

25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

Manasseh was the elder son, those were the German scientists. However, the younger son will be greater, Ephraim in my opinion represents the US.

19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh

Many people miss the fact that it was due to a scientific breakthrough that Jacob got his great blessing -- he figured out how to breed various traits into the flocks.
actually one of the scientists used by America had family ties to a Nazi movement called deed befor creed, which as you know in a biblical sense it should be creed befor deed.

So I hardly call that the line of Manasseh,

The deed befor the creed was to drop the nuke first and set a creed later,

And scientific, mixing different herds to get different flock ?.

More like an experiment friend.
 

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actually one of the scientists used by America had family ties to a Nazi movement called deed befor creed, which as you know in a biblical sense it should be creed befor deed.

So I hardly call that the line of Manasseh,

The deed befor the creed was to drop the nuke first and set a creed later,

And scientific, mixing different herds to get different flock ?.

More like an experiment friend.
Because one scientist has ties to the Nazis? The bottom line is prior to WWII Germany was the world leader in Science, after WWII the US was. That was because scientists fled from Germany.
 

Fundaamental

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Because one scientist has ties to the Nazis? The bottom line is prior to WWII Germany was the world leader in Science, after WWII the US was. That was because scientists fled from Germany.
yeah that's what they would have you believe.
 

Fundaamental

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Because one scientist has ties to the Nazis? The bottom line is prior to WWII Germany was the world leader in Science, after WWII the US was. That was because scientists fled from Germany.
it was probably more than one in my opinion,

But I'm sure it was the main scientist who was the mastermind and leading scientist behind the creation of the first nuke,

He probably controlled the other scientist to with brain harnessing drugs
 
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Great news praise God! The incredibly wicked terrorist group Wagner has retreated from Bakhmut. As they are the best fighting unit of the wicked Muscovites, this is fantastic news as the valiant Ukrainian army continues to encircle Bakhmut's outskirts and hold positions inside the city.
 

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Great news praise God! The incredibly wicked terrorist group Wagner has retreated from Bakhmut. As they are the best fighting unit of the wicked Muscovites, this is fantastic news as the valiant Ukrainian army continues to encircle Bakhmut's outskirts and hold positions inside the city.
yup same organization as Hitler recruiting soldiers from all over the world but then doesn't the rest of the world do this too ?..
 
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yup same organization as Hitler recruiting soldiers from all over the world but then doesn't the rest of the world do this too ?..
I don't understand your reference to Hitler here. Though it is notable that Wagner, whom this terrorist group is named after, was Hitler's favorite composer.
 

Fundaamental

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the Wagner groups are just another label for neo Nazism, it the same old same old.

You'll find they will have kit bags to with brain enchancing drugs.

The labels don't stop there, there everywhere
They just go under different names, as neo Nazism also sets a fall guy group up
And it's usually funded in some way by the main powers of the world through legal channels that can't be touched.
 

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Read Genesis and Jacob's blessings to his children. The blessing to Joseph is the blessing to scientists.

22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel)

25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

Manasseh was the elder son, those were the German scientists. However, the younger son will be greater, Ephraim in my opinion represents the US.

19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh

Many people miss the fact that it was due to a scientific breakthrough that Jacob got his great blessing -- he figured out how to breed various traits into the flocks.
Bro.....that is seriously unhinged nonsense.
 

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the Wagner groups are just another label for neo Nazism, it the same old same old.

You'll find they will have kit bags to with brain enchancing drugs.

The labels don't stop there, there everywhere
They just go under different names, as neo Nazism also sets a fall guy group up
And it's usually funded in some way by the main powers of the world through legal channels that can't be touched.
PCM Wagner have been specifically tasked with KILLING neo-Nazis (Banderists).
 

Fundaamental

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PCM Wagner have been specifically tasked with KILLING neo-Nazis (Banderists).
the Wagner's have been linked to neo Nazis to and far right extremism go figure.

The neo Nazis banderists eh, what ever will they think of next.
 

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when all this started i was thinking i wonder who's side I'm supposed to be on, but I'm sure they will tell me, and sure as the world russia was gasing their own people with alien nuclear anthrax and ukraine was saving little puppies on the freeways of the autobaun, and i was like, yup, they want us to side with ukraine and here we go
 

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the Wagner groups are just another label for neo Nazism, it the same old same old.

You'll find they will have kit bags to with brain enchancing drugs.

The labels don't stop there, there everywhere
They just go under different names, as neo Nazism also sets a fall guy group up
And it's usually funded in some way by the main powers of the world through legal channels that can't be touched.

Wagner group was involved with the attack of Khasham against US forces during the Trump years, I'm surprised anyone doesn't remember them tied to neonazism,,,Russia,,ISOL,,,ISIS ect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham and am appalled to see anyone seeing them as the good guys...
 
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More good news, the wicked Russian elite terrorist group Wagner has suffered losses so catastrophic that 95% of this terrorist organization has been killed or wounded. For further intrigue, the wicked Russian spy Igor Girkin is in total dismay over the wicked general Prigozhin revealing that true catastrophic scope of Russia's losses as it is customary for the wicked Russians to basically lie about everything, and the lies of wicked Russia has become the dominant theme of this war. The fact wicked Russia relies so heavily on the power of the lie, and lies so frequently about almost every aspect of this war, is a clear indicator that they are in the service of Satan and that they have been excommunicated from the holy body Christ. Much in the same manner as King Saul and King Ahab were likewise excommunicated from the body of Christ and therefore foolishly aligned themselves with the Devil to their own downfall.
 

Fundaamental

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Wagner group was involved with the attack of Khasham against US forces during the Trump years, I'm surprised anyone doesn't remember them tied to neonazism,,,Russia,,ISOL,,,ISIS ect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham and am appalled to see anyone seeing them as the good guys...
Its a reality friend that someone in war gets made out to be a good eye and bad guy.
But the truth is there are no ligitmate wars in the eyes of God since the cross the work was done.

God told us he longer desires sacrifice of life, which I think you'll find that's what soldiers do, they sacrifice there lifes