Your thoughts on chem trails?

[Sirk]

Back to the drawing board I guess. Lol

 

[Born_Again]

Whats funny is, most liquids dumped at that altitude would dissipate by the time they got to the ground therefore have little to no effect. That's why refueling aircraft, such as your KC 10, will climb to about 30,000 feet or higher to dump excess fuel if an aircraft didn't show up so they can keep their landing weight down. You are more likely to be poisoned by fertilizers soaking into the water table in well water.

 

[Demi777]

I think the most amazing thing in all this is that these people are able to find their way home from the grocery store. LOL

Its just the blind leading the blind. Here in germany we have a quote for that.. Even a blind chicken finds a seed every once in a while

 

[AllenW]

I was walking quietly down the path at the hospital made of wood hooches.
Suddenly, a jet would fly overhead, just above the treetops.
It would happen so fast, you could not hear it coming.
Then what followed was a mist of sorts, no smell, no taste, but a mist none the less.
It happened every time for months on end.

This was Phu Bai, Viet Nam at the 85th evac. hospital, 1971.
I was told when I had my heart attack that it was caused by agent orange.

Yes, I guess that is what you would call a chem trail.
I am now disabled because of this chem trail.
They do exist.

 

[MsSuzanna]

I was walking quietly down the path at the hospital made of wood hooches.
Suddenly, a jet would fly overhead, just above the treetops.
It would happen so fast, you could not hear it coming.
Then what followed was a mist of sorts, no smell, no taste, but a mist none the less.
It happened every time for months on end.

This was Phu Bai, Viet Nam at the 85th evac. hospital, 1971.
I was told when I had my heart attack that it was caused by agent orange.

Yes, I guess that is what you would call a chem trail.
I am now disabled because of this chem trail.
They do exist.

My good friend John died from cancer by agent orange. He was very young. I think it was 95. He left two kids behind.

Im so sorry that you are suffering because of agent orange.

May the Lord bless you sir.

 

[BeyondET]

Elements on earth no matter how small In a gravity state atmosphere around earth everything in it what goes up must come down lands on water oceans and lakes to dry land on earth. The affects above water to deep sea coral which is the foundation what happens to a weak foundation coral gone ecosystem gone that's us too. Pollution natural and man made. volcanic,thermal venting, methane release to thickening or lack of thickening of atmosphere to fossil fuel burning,gasoline igniting,exhaust fumes, chem trails. human consumption byproduct waste. some of earths cleansing system wind lightening Running moving falling water like a self rinsing cycle these also increase the blending of these pollutes along with simple gravity. even solar bombardment of raw materials that collide with earth can affect life indeed life is truely fragile. A balancing act of epic scale which tipped one way or the other and us people are like plucking Nats off the table earth wouldnt end. But hypothetically speaking if the atmosphere went bye bye in one minute most people on earth would struggle for say 10 mins or so that would be it no more people on earth.. oxygen is king of the air breathers but the glory all goes to the Eternal king and creator of oxygen thus king of both oxygen and air breathers.

 

[RickyZ]

Could the government (and big business for that matter) practice crop dusting us humans for a variety of reasons, some good some bad? I'd be surprised if they haven't.

Do I think every plane that passes overhead is crop dusting me? No, don't make me laugh.

It's not advantageous for a government to kill off it's constituents, without them there is no need to exist or support structure to uphold it's existence. Big business has no interest in killing off it's workforce (altho they do curiously limit their consumer support structure).

It happens, but the sky isn't falling as the chicken little's would have it. Be aware but not paranoid.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I was walking quietly down the path at the hospital made of wood hooches.
Suddenly, a jet would fly overhead, just above the treetops.
It would happen so fast, you could not hear it coming.
Then what followed was a mist of sorts, no smell, no taste, but a mist none the less.
It happened every time for months on end.

This was Phu Bai, Viet Nam at the 85th evac. hospital, 1971.
I was told when I had my heart attack that it was caused by agent orange.

Yes, I guess that is what you would call a chem trail.
I am now disabled because of this chem trail.
They do exist.

This deserves a rep.

 

[EarnestQ]

Ya know....

Hypothetically, if the govment was "crop dusting" its citizens, they might use lithium to keep them from getting too upset about things going on around them. Lithium is used to keep people from over reacting during a manic phase. It was discovered - if I remember correctly - by an Australian researcher who gave some to some Guinea pigs and noticed they became very mellow.

I am sure those releasing the lithium are confident that there is no threat to the health of the public. (Curiously, the govment said the same things about tobacco, atomic fallout, saccharine and other things.)

If learning about wind patterns is their goal, is there anything that can work better than something that is proven to be psychoactive?

I am not saying the govment is doing anything nefarious, but is that the best material for the purpose?

 

[EarnestQ]

Here is something on the history of the psychiatric use of lithium. It mentions Australia but nothing about Guinea pigs.

The history of lithium therapy

I think I got the anecdote from one of my psychology professors in college. I suppose it is too late to correct him now.

 

[Sinnerman]

Rudimental, I'm going to walk you through your own post and try to explain why people like me, don't believe much of what people like you post. I ask you to respond with some sort of proof or evidence to support the parts of your post where you went off the rails and began making stuff up.

Yes of course I watched it! I've watched umpteen times now. Have you watched it all the way through? Like I already said, the reason I posted it was because he mentions that they have been doing it (spraying) since the 70's.

First, notice how you state that you have viewed the video "umpteen" times. This is consistent with most conspiracy fanatics. They spend an inordinate amount of time viewing unsubstantiated claims by kooks, over and over, hearing what they want to hear.

Next, you said the man on the video said they have been doing it (spraying) since the 70's. Well, how many times since the 70's? How high up was the chemical released? Was the chemical harmful, according to him? Did he not say he would gladly explain why the chemical they were releasing was not harmful? Did the female caller take him up on this offer? Why not? Did you call the guy and ask him to further explain? Why not? Are you the least bit interested in knowing the truth or do you prefer to spin a short interview to suit your own agenda?

What I think is they may have done a upper atmosphere wind research experiment a few times in the 70's, and then maybe a few more times in the 90's, as he suggested. So, maybe five or six times a rocket flew up to somewhere between 200,000 feet and over 1,000,000 feet above the earth and released something they were able to photograph and calculate wind speeds.

What is most important is you absolutely claim that the visible contrails of commercial planes flying at lower altitudes are actually chem trails, when you know they are not. Chem trails are released from rockets much higher up and are what? Invisible. That's right, he said it on the video you claim to have watched umpteen times. Invisible chem trails made of a harmless substance released from possible a million feet above the earth, perhaps a half dozen times, or maybe more, in the last forty years, and you have imagined that the chemicals are very dangerous (no proof), and they are clearly visible (contradictory to what chem trails actually are), and they are released at low altitudes (again, no proof or evidence). And the whole time you embrace your made up story, you have the name of the man who clearly stated the opposite of what you believe and also added he would gladly discuss further details of the research to clarify any misunderstandings. But we all know that misunderstandings are the cornerstone of every conspiracy theory and the last thing they want is to understand the simple truths they twist and distort.


You guys like to make stuff up? You think I like to make this stuff up?

No it doesn't contradict anything. The reason the video was posted was because he mentions that they have been spraying people from above since the 70's.

No, he doesn't mention that they have been spraying people since the 70's. Tell us the place on the video where he says that? This is exactly what every conspiracy theorist always does, misquote someone. What he said is there have been some of these experiments have occurred in the 70's and other decades. He never suggests these happened thousands of times. They could have done a total of less than ten of these flights over the last 40 years, for all you know.

Within the video it shows how the word "chemtrails" has been used for many years by many government agencies and NASA scientists as a way to explain different chemicals being dispersed into the atmosphere.

Into the upper atmosphere, the ionosphere. You prefer not to repeat that part because you know we all can google the ionosphere and find out it is way way up there, above any jet airliner traffic releasing contrails. This allows you to imply that commercial airliners releasing contrails are actually releasing chem trails. You know this is untrue, so please say so. Make it short and simple. Say that jet airliners have never released chem trails, because we all know that chem trails are invisible and are released from rockets at altitudes up to and above 1,000,000 feet above the earth.

The caller isn't complaining about chemtrails, she's concerned about the rockets releasing lithium into the atmosphere.

The caller is an idiot. She isn't concerned about anything than misstating what was said. She had every opportunity to ask further questions to clarify what chemicals were released and why they are harmless, and she did not do so because she did not want any evidence of how harmless the wind experiments are.

It is Dr Rowland that voluntarily uses the word "chemtrails" as a word for "chemical trails".

Before the copy of the telephone conversation takes place, there are several well documented descriptors for chemtrails.

Some of these include;

In 1964 NASA use the term "chemtrail" to describe the release of heavy metals into the atmosphere.

The term "chemtrails" appears in house resolution document where "chemtrails" was defined as an "exotic weapon".

If you say that something appears in a House resolution, you should understand that you will need to present a link showing this House resolution. Where is the link? Where is the evidence it exists?

They're dispersing chemicals on us for many different reasons.

Mostly these reasons are for future warfare and depopulation against other countries (exotic weapons).

But they're testing it on their own people.

The previous three sentences are made up. There is no evidence or proof presented. It is the opinion of a conspiracy kook only. It's what you guys do a lot of, making stuff up.

 

[Sinnerman]

I was walking quietly down the path at the hospital made of wood hooches.
Suddenly, a jet would fly overhead, just above the treetops.
It would happen so fast, you could not hear it coming.
Then what followed was a mist of sorts, no smell, no taste, but a mist none the less.
It happened every time for months on end.

This was Phu Bai, Viet Nam at the 85th evac. hospital, 1971.
I was told when I had my heart attack that it was caused by agent orange.

Yes, I guess that is what you would call a chem trail.
I am now disabled because of this chem trail.
They do exist.

Help me out here, Allen. I need more information about your alleged condition and cause of said condition. I say that because we have gotten to a point where almost every (4 out of 5) soldier returning from active duty in Iraq or Afghanistan is claiming PTSD. Even clerks and people who load and unload planes. It doesn't matter. They claim it, and doctors ask them what symptoms they are experiencing, and they repeat something they were told will insure a successful disability claim, and the doctor says he cannot disprove what they are saying.

So, when you were 20 years old, you were walking near a hospital in Phu Bai in 1971 and a jet flew over you, correct? And you were not able to hear this jet approaching, correct? A jet flying just above the treetops and you say you could not hear it coming, correct? But you didn't say you saw the jet release anything, correct? You said that after the jet flew over you, a mist of sorts fell. Care to further explain what a mist of sorts is? And this mist was odorless and colorless, correct?

Now skip ahead to your heart attack. You were 20 years old at that time. When did you have a heart attack? What year? Where were you treated? What type of treatment did you receive? What doctor or doctors saw you? Did you get a second opinion? There are a lot of reasons people have heart attacks. Were you a smoker? What was your weight at the time of your heart attack? What was your diet?

You said you were told that the cause of your heart attack was agent orange. Who told you? A nurse? A doctor? A neighbor or friend or lawyer? Who? What brought them to that conclusion? Did anyone else confirm it? Do you possess documents that show a report by a medical professional who claims you were exposed to agent orange and he was able to confirm it? Would you post copies of any medical reports that showed you were exposed to agent orange?

You must understand this is the internet. We do not know each others real names. We do not know for sure what your age is or your gender is, other than what you typed onto your profile. You could be a 22 year old college kid or a 44 year old woman, and nobody would know. You could say you are a Navy Seal or a Supreme Court Justice if you wanted. We cannot confirm much of what people claim here. You could say you are a doctor and you delivered Barak Obama when he was born, in Kenya, and I bet a lot of people here would believe you. So please don't get upset if people on a conspiracy forum ask you to provide a tad bit of proof to support your claims.

Also, the chem trails the OP is trying to convince us exist, are from rockets flying at up to 1,000,000 feet above the earth, not from jets flying at treetop level in Vietnam. That might be another conspiracy best discussed in a new thread, in order to allow the OP to better explain the false assumptions and conclusions he is making about a telephone interview.

 

[tourist]

Here is something on the history of the psychiatric use of lithium. It mentions Australia but nothing about Guinea pigs.

The history of lithium therapy

I think I got the anecdote from one of my psychology professors in college. I suppose it is too late to correct him now.

Lithium is the active material is some batteries. Apparently, it turns them on.

 

[AllenW]

Help me out here, Allen. I need more information about your alleged condition and cause of said condition. I say that because we have gotten to a point where almost every (4 out of 5) soldier returning from active duty in Iraq or Afghanistan is claiming PTSD. Even clerks and people who load and unload planes. It doesn't matter. They claim it, and doctors ask them what symptoms they are experiencing, and they repeat something they were told will insure a successful disability claim, and the doctor says he cannot disprove what they are saying.

So, when you were 20 years old, you were walking near a hospital in Phu Bai in 1971 and a jet flew over you, correct? And you were not able to hear this jet approaching, correct? A jet flying just above the treetops and you say you could not hear it coming, correct? But you didn't say you saw the jet release anything, correct? You said that after the jet flew over you, a mist of sorts fell. Care to further explain what a mist of sorts is? And this mist was odorless and colorless, correct?

Now skip ahead to your heart attack. You were 20 years old at that time. When did you have a heart attack? What year? Where were you treated? What type of treatment did you receive? What doctor or doctors saw you? Did you get a second opinion? There are a lot of reasons people have heart attacks. Were you a smoker? What was your weight at the time of your heart attack? What was your diet?

You said you were told that the cause of your heart attack was agent orange. Who told you? A nurse? A doctor? A neighbor or friend or lawyer? Who? What brought them to that conclusion? Did anyone else confirm it? Do you possess documents that show a report by a medical professional who claims you were exposed to agent orange and he was able to confirm it? Would you post copies of any medical reports that showed you were exposed to agent orange?

You must understand this is the internet. We do not know each others real names. We do not know for sure what your age is or your gender is, other than what you typed onto your profile. You could be a 22 year old college kid or a 44 year old woman, and nobody would know. You could say you are a Navy Seal or a Supreme Court Justice if you wanted. We cannot confirm much of what people claim here. You could say you are a doctor and you delivered Barak Obama when he was born, in Kenya, and I bet a lot of people here would believe you. So please don't get upset if people on a conspiracy forum ask you to provide a tad bit of proof to support your claims.

Also, the chem trails the OP is trying to convince us exist, are from rockets flying at up to 1,000,000 feet above the earth, not from jets flying at treetop level in Vietnam. That might be another conspiracy best discussed in a new thread, in order to allow the OP to better explain the false assumptions and conclusions he is making about a telephone interview.

I'm sorry, I can't get into this.
I suffer from anxiety and I received disability for both.
That's all I can say.

 

[Demi777]

I'm sorry, I can't get into this.
I suffer from anxiety and I received disability for both.
That's all I can say.

thats what happens in war. its not all throwing cotton balls and bouquet. innocents get damaged. that doesnt mean that theres still chem trails trying to kill us all.

 

[Spherical]

thats what happens in war. its not all throwing cotton balls and bouquet. innocents get damaged. that doesnt mean that theres still chem trails trying to kill us all.

YES IT DOES. THE GOVERNMENT EVEN ADMITTED IT.

 

[Willie-T]

thats what happens in war. its not all throwing cotton balls and bouquet. innocents get damaged. that doesnt mean that theres still chem trails trying to kill us all.

I know Allen and his wife personally, and I don't think that is what he means. But he does know that aerial spraying occurs... even today... in various places, and for a range of reasons. And the bad memories are probably just too strong for him to listen to much about it.

 

[Demi777]

I know Allen and his wife personally, and I don't think that is what he means. But he does know that aerial spraying occurs... even today... in various places, and for a range of reasons. And the bad memories are probably just too strong for him to listen to much about it.

Thanks for clearing that up. Though I still dont believe that any gov. wants to destroy the earth with its population because then it would have already happened. one bomb here one bomb there and done..not chem trails.
I am aware that things get tested in deserts and all , and pesticides and all but not to everywhere and all the time. jeesh

 

[FranC]

My elderly aunt woke up in the early hours of the morning the other day and
decided she was hungry. So she managed to pour out a bowl of rice Chrispies
(breakfast cereal) and a dollop of milk.

Only she could not hold the cereal box or carry the bowl properly into the
living room.

So when I got up I found a trail of rice Chrispies leading from the living room into
the kitchen, plus pools of milk and rice Chrispies all over the kitchen floor.

This happens every so often, chem trails come in all shapes and sizes. Some need
more immediate attention then others.

I'm here by mistake,
but I'm having such good laughs!

Will be visiting more often!!!

BTW, that video of the guy touching the cloud - yeah, I would have stuck my arm into that thing too!

Have also seen other videos of ghosts and the such.
I do wonder how they're doctored...

Fran

 

[FranC]

Help me out here, Allen. I need more information about your alleged condition and cause of said condition. I say that because we have gotten to a point where almost every (4 out of 5) soldier returning from active duty in Iraq or Afghanistan is claiming PTSD. Even clerks and people who load and unload planes. It doesn't matter. They claim it, and doctors ask them what symptoms they are experiencing, and they repeat something they were told will insure a successful disability claim, and the doctor says he cannot disprove what they are saying.

So, when you were 20 years old, you were walking near a hospital in Phu Bai in 1971 and a jet flew over you, correct? And you were not able to hear this jet approaching, correct? A jet flying just above the treetops and you say you could not hear it coming, correct? But you didn't say you saw the jet release anything, correct? You said that after the jet flew over you, a mist of sorts fell. Care to further explain what a mist of sorts is? And this mist was odorless and colorless, correct?

Now skip ahead to your heart attack. You were 20 years old at that time. When did you have a heart attack? What year? Where were you treated? What type of treatment did you receive? What doctor or doctors saw you? Did you get a second opinion? There are a lot of reasons people have heart attacks. Were you a smoker? What was your weight at the time of your heart attack? What was your diet?

You said you were told that the cause of your heart attack was agent orange. Who told you? A nurse? A doctor? A neighbor or friend or lawyer? Who? What brought them to that conclusion? Did anyone else confirm it? Do you possess documents that show a report by a medical professional who claims you were exposed to agent orange and he was able to confirm it? Would you post copies of any medical reports that showed you were exposed to agent orange?

You must understand this is the internet. We do not know each others real names. We do not know for sure what your age is or your gender is, other than what you typed onto your profile. You could be a 22 year old college kid or a 44 year old woman, and nobody would know. You could say you are a Navy Seal or a Supreme Court Justice if you wanted. We cannot confirm much of what people claim here. You could say you are a doctor and you delivered Barak Obama when he was born, in Kenya, and I bet a lot of people here would believe you. So please don't get upset if people on a conspiracy forum ask you to provide a tad bit of proof to support your claims.

Also, the chem trails the OP is trying to convince us exist, are from rockets flying at up to 1,000,000 feet above the earth, not from jets flying at treetop level in Vietnam. That might be another conspiracy best discussed in a new thread, in order to allow the OP to better explain the false assumptions and conclusions he is making about a telephone interview.

Sinnerman,
What I just read from you is shocking.
You actually know people who would tell such a lie for whatever reason?
Those of us who have never experienced war should be grateful and thank God
that we did not have to see what those who did experience it had to see.

You should be careful with your words.

And anyway, who are YOU to require more information??

Fran