And you have YET to show me a verse where it states that the Scriptures are more authoritative than the Church. I have provided the verses that state just the opposite.
Look, here's alittle advice about debating: Try to bring some evidence to the table instead of mere opinions. I'll start by showing the Supreme Authority of the Church:
The Church is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).
Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6).
Jesus promised His Church that the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).
The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
The Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).
Jesus identifies His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).
About His Church, Jesus said the following:
Matt 16:18-19
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Matt. 18:17-18If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Luke 10:16Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me."
Sorry, but you cannot win this argument on your anti-Catholic opinions.
They MUST be Scripturally-based.
i already proved from scripture and commonsense logic that the scriptures are more authoritative than the church...if you need an even simpler exposition...
scriptural authority > paul's authority
paul's authority = apostolic authority
therefore...scriptural authority > apostolic authority
apostles = foundation of the church
therefore...scriptural authority > church's authority
to claim that i did not bring any evidence...when actually i have made my points from scripture and basic logic...is just plain dishonest...and shows that you are not interested in having an honest debate...
i agree that the church is the body of christ...and christ is the head of the church...but this says nothing about the church having any doctrinal authority...
i also agree that jesus promised that the holy spirit would guide the church into all truth...however the burden of proof is on you to show that this has happened already...and that it is not an ongoing process of learning and discernment instead...
and i agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth...but notice that it does not say that the church is the source or the arbiter of truth... the church's job as a pillar is to -uphold- the truth that is given...not to declare 'truth' by fiat...
your next two references basically have the same answer as the first...
jesus' teaching on the keys is about proclaiming forgiveness of sins...not establishing doctrine...
taken in context matthew 18:17-18 is about how to deal with a christian who sins...so again this has nothing to do with authority to establish doctrine...
finally luke 10:16 is addressed specifically to the seventy-two...not to the church...
and i will say again that the church mentioned in the new testament is -not- your church...which didn't exist yet...