Christ is the Sabbath ( Rest )

[Grandpa]

And here is the future.

Revelation 14:12

Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

Galatians 3:23-26
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
[SUP]26[/SUP]For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Matthew 11:28-30
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:9-11
[SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

 

[Kerry]

You can post as many scriptures about faith as you wish

ROMANS 3 [30] Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. [31] DO WE THEN MAKE VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: yea, we establish the law.

Your still to be keeping the law according to scripture

As I said if you don't need the cross. Then I say to you good luck, cause you are going to need it. School master. Stand before Him and see where law gets you, I am thinking of a lake of fire. Oh but you don't believe that part of the bible just like Shiloah, who claims that Jesus had a flesh moment in Mark 9.

 

[Wall]

As I said if you don't need the cross. Then I say to you good luck, cause you are going to need it. School master. Stand before Him and see where law gets you, I am thinking of a lake of fire. Oh but you don't believe that part of the bible just like Shiloah, who claims that Jesus had a flesh moment in Mark 9.

Are u bearing false witness again? Show me anywhere that I said I don't need the cross. Pants on FIRE! As for the law and fire.

Isaiah 5:24 (KJV)
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

OK. Now show me a scripture as to where im in line for some fire because I believe we are to keep the law

 

[Kerry]

If your faith is in law, then you have no need of the cross, you are righteous in you own self and have glorified yourself and the cross is beneath you because you have attained by law.

 

[Wall]

If your faith is in law, then you have no need of the cross, you are righteous in you own self and have glorified yourself and the cross is beneath you because you have attained by law.

Oh you have such a way with words. An eloquent orator. All be it...your opinion. Nothing bible based

Hey...your that angry pastor with no flock who was on the other thread.

 

[Shiloah]

Well: I really wish people would take the time to read the full post. There is scripture presented there for a reason. It is written.

These are Christ words Himself :
Mark.2


[28] Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Matt.12


[8] For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Nothing said in this post is not stated without the scripture being resented . Please read the full post if you feel like doing that. Don't let God's words be offending to you. And let the traditions of men fade away.


Matthew 11:

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Nowhere in scriptures does it say that the sabbath law was done away with because Jesus is Lord of the sabbath or because He is our rest. The sabbath law was instated as a sign that the people that keep the sabbath serve the Creator who created everything in six days and rested on the seventh. This is said by God Himself in the OT. Obviously Jesus is Lord of the sabbath. He is the I AM that gave us the sabbath.

"Remember the sabbath day and keep it Holy" has nothing to do with Christ giving us rest.

 

[josh123]

If your faith is in law, then you have no need of the cross, you are righteous in you own self and have glorified yourself and the cross is beneath you because you have attained by law.

this is exactly what is happening... they have faith in the law but not faith in god..

 

[Shiloah]

this is exactly what is happening... they have faith in the law but not faith in god..

Faith in God? Apparently you don't care what He said for you to do if you love Him. What exactly does that mean, "faith in God?" If it doesn't include doing what He says? It means nothing.

 

[Shiloah]

Galatians 3:23-26
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
[SUP]26[/SUP]For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Matthew 11:28-30
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:9-11
[SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

All of these verses in no way nullify the verse I posted from Revelation. Nothing is being accomplished here. This is pure confusion. I'm not going to try to reason with confusion.

 

[josh123]

Nowhere in scriptures does it say that the sabbath law was done away with because Jesus is Lord of the sabbath or because He is our rest. The sabbath law was instated as a sign that the people that keep the sabbath serve the Creator who created everything in six days and rested on the seventh. This is said by God Himself in the OT. Obviously Jesus is Lord of the sabbath. He is the I AM that gave us the sabbath.

"Remember the sabbath day and keep it Holy" has nothing to do with Christ giving us rest.

THIS IS MEANT FOR THE JEWS! NOT THE GENTILES! the gentiles has eternal REST IN CHRIST JESUS when they accept him...if that was for us then all we would have to do is just go to church on the seventh day and b save... but it's not so.. people we are save by grace not by law.. if we look at the jews today what do we see them doing? keeping the sabbath every saturday, the JEWS reject god SO HOW CAN THEY RECEIVE HIM IF THEY REJECT HIM, instead they keep THE LAW but for us the GENTILES the only way we can be save IS IF WE ACCEPT JESUS .. can't get anymore clearer than this.. if you would like to continue living your way that is up to you.. but the truth is the truth. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. [h=3]Matthew 15:9[/h]

 

[josh123]

Faith in God? Apparently you don't care what He said for you to do if you love Him. What exactly does that mean, "faith in God?" If it doesn't include doing what He says? It means nothing.

if you had it you would have not say that you would know what faith in god means and yes it does include what he says, And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him. [h=3]Hebrews 11:6[/h]

 

[RedTent]

If your faith is in law, then you have no need of the cross, you are righteous in you own self and have glorified yourself and the cross is beneath you because you have attained by law.

It is as if there are canned phrases used to obscure and twist scripture. "faith in the law". " Righteous in your own self" "the cross is beneath you". You forgot "nailed to the cross" and "under grace not law". Most of the bible is about law and sin, how Christ and God's holiness relates to that, what we are to do about it. Many posters have tried to explain it in 2013 language. If you haven't gotten it, yet, then I think there is something else holding you up.

 

[Shiloah]

if you had it you would have not say that you would know what faith in god means and yes it does include what he says, And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him. Hebrews 11:6

Well then if you believe that He exists, why don't you believe you should do what He says?

As for Danchanse and his accusations against Judaizers? Do you know where that term comes from Danchanse? I'll give you a big hint.

Those who observed the Sabbath were persecuted and killed by the Catholic church. When the Jesuit St. Francis Xavier arrived in India he immediately requested to the pope to set up the Inquisition there.

"The Jewish wickedness" of which Xavier complained was evidently the Sabbath-keeping among those native Christians as we shall see in our next quotation. When one of these Sabbath-keeping Christians was taken by the Inquisition he was accused of having *Judaized*; which means having conformed to the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law; such as not eating pork, hare, fish without scales, of having attended the solemnization of the Sabbath." Account of the Inquisition at Goa, Dellon, p.56. London, 1815

"Of an hundred persons condemned to be burnt as Jews, there are scarcely four who profess that faith at their death; the rest exclaiming and protesting to their last gasp that they are Christians, and have been so during their whole lives." Ibid p.64

The Catholic church invented that word. I wonder why. Maybe because the Catholic church taught that Sunday was the day of worship. And what did the Catholic church do when you didn't do things their way? They tortured and killed you. So that word you keep using, Danchanse, is a Catholic word for those that oppose their teachings.

Daniel 7:24

He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.


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[Shiloah]

THIS IS MEANT FOR THE JEWS! NOT THE GENTILES! the gentiles has eternal REST IN CHRIST JESUS when they accept him...if that was for us then all we would have to do is just go to church on the seventh day and b save... but it's not so.. people we are save by grace not by law.. if we look at the jews today what do we see them doing? keeping the sabbath every saturday, the JEWS reject god SO HOW CAN THEY RECEIVE HIM IF THEY REJECT HIM, instead they keep THE LAW but for us the GENTILES the only way we can be save IS IF WE ACCEPT JESUS .. can't get anymore clearer than this.. if you would like to continue living your way that is up to you.. but the truth is the truth. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15:9

The Gentiles have been grafted into the vine. We are all now part of the body of Christ. There is no difference between us. We are all the spiritual Israel now. The doctrines of men are exactly what we're talking about here. Those doctrines seek to cancel out the doctrines of God when Jesus Christ Himself said God's laws will endure forever.

Obviously those Jews that reject Christ are not part of the body of Christ. I would think that would go without saying.

 

[Shiloah]

THIS IS MEANT FOR THE JEWS! NOT THE GENTILES! the gentiles has eternal REST IN CHRIST JESUS when they accept him...if that was for us then all we would have to do is just go to church on the seventh day and b save... but it's not so.. people we are save by grace not by law.. if we look at the jews today what do we see them doing? keeping the sabbath every saturday, the JEWS reject god SO HOW CAN THEY RECEIVE HIM IF THEY REJECT HIM, instead they keep THE LAW but for us the GENTILES the only way we can be save IS IF WE ACCEPT JESUS .. can't get anymore clearer than this.. if you would like to continue living your way that is up to you.. but the truth is the truth. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15:9

THIS is what it doesn't get any clearer than.

Matthew 5:19

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[JaumeJ]

In the prophesy of our Lord's first advent, Isaiah makes it plain, those who LEARN of Yeshua, Jesus, are given rest by His teaching. Nothing is taught or mentioned about His being the replacement of the one day a week to rest from our mundane toils, and the day is the Sabbath of Yahweh. Just as He commands(desires also) us not to steal or kill, He desires us to hold just one day a week aside to be with Him and rest from those labors. Do not distort the teachings of Yeshua.

Isa 50:4
The Lord Jehovah hath given me the tongue of them that are taught, that I may know how to sustain with words him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as they that are taught.

 

[JaumeJ]

When it is foretold by our Father by Isaiah about our Savior, and it is reitereated by Yeshua, Jesus, anyone who believes Yahweh will know it is the true teaching giving us rest.. As it is written he who has eyes............... If this is not enough, then no amount of truth will do.

Do you read the Word? Believe it. Worship God, amen.

 

[Wall]

Just a little somethin on this wonderful Sabbath day to show how great the WORD is! There are only 2 places in the KJV where the words “moreover also” can be found

EZEK.20 [12] MOREOVER ALSO I gave them MY SABBATHS, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them

ACTS 2 [26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; MOREOVER ALSO MY FLESH SHALL REST in hope:

If you will notice in ACTS 2 the WORD says “my flesh shall rest in hope”. Just as GODS 4th commandment tells us to do. A huge coincidence to the "many". The greatness of His Word to the few.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Just a little somethin on this wonderful Sabbath day to show how great the WORD is! There are only 2 places in the KJV where the words “moreover also” can be found

EZEK.20 [12] MOREOVER ALSO I gave them MY SABBATHS, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them

ACTS 2 [26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; MOREOVER ALSO MY FLESH SHALL REST in hope:

If you will notice in ACTS 2 the WORD says “my flesh shall rest in hope”. Just as GODS 4th commandment tells us to do. A huge coincidence to the "many". The greatness of His Word to the few.

That is meaningless. Moreover also is just the way it was translated, and probably only in the King James; has nothing to do with the original languages.

 

[Wall]

That is meaningless. Moreover also is just the way it was translated, and probably only in the King James; has nothing to do with the original languages.

Yeah....I already knew it would be meaningless to you even before I posted it. To you a one in a billion coincidence