CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE

[KohenMatt]

For Salvation's sake, we don't need to follow the Law.

But once we have that we should follow the Law, and teach others to do so.

Matt 5:17-19 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

For Salvation's sake, we don't need to follow the Law.

But once we have that we should follow the Law, and teach others to do so.

And why is that? Are you afraid?

 

[KohenMatt]

And why is that? Are you afraid?

Because Jesus told us to.

 

[homwardbound]

when we try to follow it we are trying to establish our own righteousness the bible said so, that is why we need to abide in christ and he fulfill the law

Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Philippians 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
2 Corinthians 10:2 but I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.

The war is between spirit of God and flesh Spirit of self.
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Because Jesus told us to.

Jesus and the apostles said that faith and love are obedience to the law.

 

[Hizikyah]

The word of God said so, so then why would you not accept it? that means something is missing, i urge anyone who is trying to be justified by the law to seek God with all their heart to truly be born again and be under the spirit of the law

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Romans 9:30-32


Romans 10

King James Version (KJV)

10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



the word of God said so.. why would you not accept it? you won't understand the righteousness of God until you surrender to him, that is what must happen then he will make you righteous and you won't be trying to be justified by your works of righteousness, all i can do is share the word of God it's up to you to accept it

This is a bad transllation and a lack of understanding of the original Greek.

4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

One if this is proper than Shaul is bi-polar:

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

telos: an end, a toll​

Original Word: τέλος, ους, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: telos
Phonetic Spelling: (tel'-os)
Short Definition: an end, purpose, tax
Definition: (a) an end, (b) event or issue, (c) the principal end, aim, purpose, (d) a tax.

Shaul is not bipolar.

Romans 10:4, "For Yahshua is the ultimate result of the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes."

This following verse was not written on accident.

2 Kepha 3:15-16, "And recognize that the longsuffering of Yahweh our Savior is salvation; just as our beloved brother Shaul, in accordance with the wisdom given to him, has written to you, As also in all his letters, speaking in them about these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which those who are unlearned and unstable twist, as they also do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

Yahweh had it written for a reason.

Here are other verses where this same Greek word is used "telos"

Romans 6:20-22, "For when you were servants to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. But then what benefit did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the result (same word here) of those things is death!But now that you have been set free from sin, and have become servants to Yahweh, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result (same word here) is eternal life."

Also there is a place it's used a the "result" of our faith, this is the best example, if it were "end" it would be the end of our faith. Yahweh willing I will find it gain so next time I may show this.

It is not the "end" it's not over, it's the goal or result.

If you think it is properly "end" how do you reconcile this?

Romans 10:4, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

There is a difference in following Yahweh;s instructions for Salvation and for oebdience and love. For Salvation it's of no fruit, as only one man followed it without a single error, however for obedience and love is the purpose, how else would we know what pleases Yahweh? We wouldnt, with no guide, we would just make up in our head our own set of acceptable behaviors and say they are the standard by which we will enter the kingdom or not, there are some other groups of people who have done this in the past.

Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."

Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."

Romans 8:4-8, "In order that the righteous requirements of the Law might be fully performed in us, who do not live according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

Why would teaching or not taeching something that has baeen done away have any effect in our standing kingdom if it were just that "done away?"

Mattithyah 5:17-19, "Do not even think that I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to establish (fulfill) them.For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

 

[Josh321]

This is a bad transllation and a lack of understanding of the original Greek.

4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

One if this is proper than Shaul is bi-polar:

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

telos: an end, a toll​

Original Word: τέλος, ους, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: telos
Phonetic Spelling: (tel'-os)
Short Definition: an end, purpose, tax
Definition: (a) an end, (b) event or issue, (c) the principal end, aim, purpose, (d) a tax.

Shaul is not bipolar.

Romans 10:4, "For Yahshua is the ultimate result of the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes."

This following verse was not written on accident.

2 Kepha 3:15-16, "And recognize that the longsuffering of Yahweh our Savior is salvation; just as our beloved brother Shaul, in accordance with the wisdom given to him, has written to you, As also in all his letters, speaking in them about these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which those who are unlearned and unstable twist, as they also do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

Yahweh had it written for a reason.

Here are other verses where this same Greek word is used "telos"

Romans 6:20-22, "For when you were servants to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. But then what benefit did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the result (same word here) of those things is death!But now that you have been set free from sin, and have become servants to Yahweh, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result (same word here) is eternal life."

Also there is a place it's used a the "result" of our faith, this is the best example, if it were "end" it would be the end of our faith. Yahweh willing I will find it gain so next time I may show this.

It is not the "end" it's not over, it's the goal or result.

If you think it is properly "end" how do you reconcile this?

Romans 10:4, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

There is a difference in following Yahweh;s instructions for Salvation and for oebdience and love. For Salvation it's of no fruit, as only one man followed it without a single error, however for obedience and love is the purpose, how else would we know what pleases Yahweh? We wouldnt, with no guide, we would just make up in our head our own set of acceptable behaviors and say they are the standard by which we will enter the kingdom or not, there are some other groups of people who have done this in the past.

Romans 7:7, "What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."

Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."

Romans 8:4-8, "In order that the righteous requirements of the Law might be fully performed in us, who do not live according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

Why would teaching or not taeching something that has baeen done away have any effect in our standing kingdom if it were just that "done away?"

Mattithyah 5:17-19, "Do not even think that I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to establish (fulfill) them.For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

are you trying to say the bible is wrong by using that statement?

 

[Josh321]

Because Jesus told us to.

.. tell me this matt, what does this statement mean, we are to be under the righteousness of jesus instead of the righteousness of the law, before you reply to me i URGE you to read that verse for understanding and to see what it is saying, it clearly stated that the jews and it's exactly what you all are trying to do are trying to be righteous by following the law of righteousness when we are suppose to follow the righteousness of christ

 

[1disciple]

The requirement to ascend into heaven as did Jesus Christ is sinless perfection--the fulfillment of the universal Law of God. No one enters into the Kingdom of Heaven and comes into a Christed glorified state unless he has kept the Law in perfection.

Jesus Christ has kept that Law in perfection, and therefore he is the End [Goal] of the Law [leading] to Justification [Righteousness].

However, it is not the case that keeping the Law perfectly is not required; it is required. And if Christ had not kept it, his death could not have been substituted for all who did not keep it and were under the curse of the Law--the entire world.

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. -- Rom. 3:31

 

[Hizikyah]

are you trying to say the bible is wrong by using that statement?

im not sure EXACTLY what you mean.

i clearly said "Shaul is not bipolar."

however TRANSLATIONS, yes MANY translations are wrond on hundreds of accounts besides the 6,823+ times the Name has been removed. To try to say a translation in "the word of god" i can not say that.

with that said on my part what is your stance on all the points I made on the prior post?

 

[Josh321]

[h=3]Matthew 5:17[/h]King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


[h=3]Romans 8:3-4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.




[h=3]Romans 10:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. ( no one well ever understand what this means unless they are born again, i urge you all to examine yourselves and ask yourself question, what does this mean? what does it mean if christ is the end of the law of righteousness, further down the chapter we find out what the this means and what exactly the law of righteousness is, we then find out that this is from moses 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.


but ask yourself this if Christ is the end of the law of righteousness what are we suppose to be under? if we are not under the law of righteousness? i hope this was somewhat helpful to you )

 

[Josh321]

im not sure EXACTLY what you mean.

i clearly said "Shaul is not bipolar."

however TRANSLATIONS, yes MANY translations are wrond on hundreds of accounts besides the 6,823+ times the Name has been removed. To try to say a translation in "the word of god" i can not say that.

with that said on my part what is your stance on all the points I made on the prior post?

i like how the twist the scriptures around to make it say what you want to say, instead of reading what is right before your eyes, even further more you went the extra mile to tell me that many translations are wrong, that is like you are trying to tell me the bible isn't accurate? why would this thought even come to your mind brother? all i did was share the word of God and explain what it was saying but in defense you end up telling me this translation is wrong? i have nothing more to say

 

[Hizikyah]

Matthew 5:17

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


Romans 8:3-4

King James Version (KJV)

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.




Romans 10:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. ( no one well ever understand what this means unless they are born again, i urge you all to examine yourselves and ask yourself question, what does this mean? what does it mean if christ is the end of the law of righteousness, further down the chapter we find out what the this means and what exactly the law of righteousness is, we then find out that this is from moses 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.


but ask yourself this if Christ is the end of the law of righteousness what are we suppose to be under? if we are not under the law of righteousness? i hope this was somewhat helpful to you )

So you quote Matt 5:17, where Yahshua said 2 times he did not come to destroy the Law, yet you say in the next breath He destroyed the Law? Well I say thank Yahweh, because I was taught this same thing my whole life, but when I actually read it for myself, I realized the message the preaches were areaching did not match Yahshua's words. You see Yahweh KNEW this mystery of iniquity was coming, so Yahshua said IN HIS NEXT SENTENCE:

Mattithyah 5:18-19, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Has "heaven and earth passes away" NO

Has "all things are perfected" NO

in this case, according to YAHSHUA: "one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law"

Then the next verse clearly says if you do and teach the Law you will be great in the kingdom of Yahweh. That is a promise.

So you quoted Romans 8:3-4, 1 they prove my point 2, keep reading:

Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

but ask yourself this if Christ is the end of the law of righteousness what are we suppose to be under? if we are not under the law of righteousness? i hope this was somewhat helpful to you

the end of the Law of righteousness? Wow, if that were true satan would be very happy. I already addressed this mistranslation, I in no way expect you to agree with it, but know I have looked into it and know it true. You must have ignored alot of what I said, I was where you are now 7 or 8 years ago, not in walk or knowledge but in doctrine. Then I read the Scriptures with no outside influence. If the Law is old, crusty, dusty, musty, evil, burdensome, and done away why is Yahshua rejecting people from the kingdom of Yahweh for breaking some of the Laws outside the 10 Commandments in Rev 22:15? If you ignore all else please answer that? (I ask that you dont ignoree anything btw)

 

[Josh321]

So you quote Matt 5:17, where Yahshua said 2 times he did not come to destroy the Law, yet you say in the next breath He destroyed the Law? Well I say thank Yahweh, because I was taught this same thing my whole life, but when I actually read it for myself, I realized the message the preaches were areaching did not match Yahshua's words. You see Yahweh KNEW this mystery of iniquity was coming, so Yahshua said IN HIS NEXT SENTENCE:

Mattithyah 5:18-19, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Has "heaven and earth passes away" NO

Has "all things are perfected" NO

in this case, according to YAHSHUA: "one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law"

Then the next verse clearly says if you do and teach the Law you will be great in the kingdom of Yahweh. That is a promise.

So you quoted Romans 8:3-4, 1 they prove my point 2, keep reading:

Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."




the end of the Law of righteousness? Wow, if that were true satan would be very happy. I already addressed this mistranslation, I in no way expect you to agree with it, but know I have looked into it and know it true. You must have ignored alot of what I said, I was where you are now 7 or 8 years ago, not in walk or knowledge but in doctrine. Then I read the Scriptures with no outside influence. If the Law is old, crusty, dusty, musty, evil, burdensome, and done away why is Yahshua rejecting people from the kingdom of Yahweh for breaking some of the Laws outside the 10 Commandments in Rev 22:15? If you ignore all else please answer that? (I ask that you dont ignoree anything btw)

what do you understand.. by the saying God came to fulfill the law, and what do you understand or have knowledge by the righteousness of Christ, what is the righteousness of the law and the righteousness of Christ..? if you or anyone claim to be under the righteousness of Christ why do you follow the righteousness of the law? for it is written..4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

you should examine yourself and others also and meditate of what this actually mean and don't ignore what this is saying would be nice for you to actually reply to what i am showing you instead of avoiding it and putting other verses, if anyone is under the law of righteousness it means they have believe on christ Jesus as yet, it's not my words it's his because the bible states 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

Iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.

Mattithyah 5:17-19, "Do not even think that I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to establish (fulfill) them.For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

2 Kepha 3:15-16, "And recognize that the longsuffering of Yahweh our Savior is salvation; just as our beloved brother Shaul, in accordance with the wisdom given to him, has written to you, As also in all his letters, speaking in them about these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which those who are unlearned and unstable twist, as they also do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

 

[Hizikyah]

Mattithyah 24:35, "Heaven and earth may pass away, but My words will not pass away."

 

[RedTent]

This is completely different, obviously we live our lives and still make choices but no way we are going to say im gonna go back in the world and do wordly things, etc because the truth is in us, we must go through our trials and tribulations and test, but God makes us righteous in the heart and mind, that is why, he said he came to FULFILL the law and prophets..

What I object is saying that people who have received the Holy Spirit and turn from sin with repentance are forever protected and need do nothing more. That is not biblical, nor does it work out in the world. What is more, when that is given out in our churches as from God, it leads to the world we have now. The devil is running many lives of people who say they are Christian.

I am glad to see the sinners in church, but at the same time, just look at who IS in church saying they are Christian. The girls are in clothes that advertise sexiness, not holiness. Many of the people are divorced (many have been deserted by their spouse). Most of the children do not have their original parents with them. They need love and help, and saying "God says you need not work to be pure any more, it is all OK" is not helping them.

And these people are told that God is not in the ten commandments, that they don't need to watch themselves for sin and live their lives as God says because when the Holy Spirit comes to them they will never want to again. They know better.

 

[Josh321]

you have no anwser to my question because you don't know the righteousness of christ, instead of avoiding it.. why not confront it, your letting your pride get in the way brother.. that is going to get you nowhere at all i urge you to seek after Christ with a pure heart and mind to find the truth and understand what i am trying to tell you, doesn't matter how many good deeds you do in the flesh it will never please God must be in the spirit to please God, most of people efforts are just in vain they are trying to be righteous in the flesh which is of Nothing to God, urge you all to seek christ to have his righteousness fulfilled in your heart and mind

 

[Josh321]

What I object is saying that people who have received the Holy Spirit and turn from sin with repentance are forever protected and need do nothing more. That is not biblical, nor does it work out in the world. What is more, when that is given out in our churches as from God, it leads to the world we have now. The devil is running many lives of people who say they are Christian.

I am glad to see the sinners in church, but at the same time, just look at who IS in church saying they are Christian. The girls are in clothes that advertise sexiness, not holiness. Many of the people are divorced (many have been deserted by their spouse). Most of the children do not have their original parents with them. They need love and help, and saying "God says you need not work to be pure any more, it is all OK" is not helping them.

And these people are told that God is not in the ten commandments, that they don't need to watch themselves for sin and live their lives as God says because when the Holy Spirit comes to them they will never want to again. They know better.

that's just the thing this is the lukewarm generations not everyone who claims they are a christian are exactly christian, only way to be a christian is to be born again, so all the people who dress pervertedly in church and with divorce and other stuff didn't receive the free gift as yet i've heard girls that receive the holy spirit in church that were dressed ungodly became ashame and realise that they are naked and began to hid themselves , that is what is missing from the churches nowadays the holy spirit, no one can claim they receive the holy spirit and continue sinning or living a perverted lifestyle, and how can you tell someone to keep the 10 commandments when we do by nature the things contain in them? it isn't wrong to aware them about it to show them what is wrong from right but saying that we suppose to preach the doctrine of being born again that is the only way the commandments will be fulfilled in us and our nature changed

 

[Hizikyah]

you have no anwser to my question because you don't know the righteousness of christ, instead of avoiding it.. why not confront it, your letting your pride get in the way brother.. that is going to get you nowhere at all i urge you to seek after Christ with a pure heart and mind to find the truth and understand what i am trying to tell you, doesn't matter how many good deeds you do in the flesh it will never please God must be in the spirit to please God, most of people efforts are just in vain they are trying to be righteous in the flesh which is of Nothing to God, urge you all to seek christ to have his righteousness fulfilled in your heart and mind

You have ignored nearly every point I have made, and basically posted one mistranslated verse (not to the point of the writings, you dont have to agree) over and over.

First I want to ask you to take your time and read through at least this entires post. We have talked and I think you know I ahve nothing against you and I see nothing wrong with the reasoning and comments between us.

The Sacrifice of the Messiah has reconciled us to Yahweh, has imputed righteousnees to us, and has removed the oppisition to Yahweh's instructions from our hearts (EPH2:15-16 dont let the ADDED words in italics that change the meaning fool you, yes not all translations are divine) there is no question about this. This cleansing and imputing does not cover future sins and give one a contiued clean slate. This past, present and future sins is a lie and every lie is of satan, so the churches that preah this are preaching the lies of satan that are directly against the word of Yahweh.

Romans 3:25, "Whom Yahweh set forth as a sacrifice of atonement by His own blood, through the faith, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of Yahweh."

Future sins can be forgiven through confession to Yahweh:

1 Yahchanan 1:8-9, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

I used to be a "sociopath" that "trampled the Son of Yahweh underfoot" I was not walking in the Spirit when I was doing these things, not there is a difference in me, I no longer turn the mercy into a license to sin, Yahweh has lead me to true understanding, not a superficial gospel of John, a pat on the rear end, my ticket to heaven stamped and dive right back into the mud pit. NO this can not be.

Yahchanan 5:14, "Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you."

1 Yahchanan 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

Yahdah (Jude) 1:4, "For there are certain men who have secretly crept in, who were before of old ordained for this condemnation, unholy men, who turn the undeserved pardon of our One Supreme Savior Yahweh into licentiousness, and deny Yahshua our Messiah."

FACT IS EVERY MAN WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHA HE HAS DONE WHETHER EVIL OR RIGHTEOUS, I know grace perverteerrs say no thats only for the unrighteous, NOT TRUE IT SAYS OVER AND OVER AND OVER EVERY MAN, EVERY MAN.

2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”

Mattithyah 16:27, “For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His Malakim; and then He will reward every man according to his works.”

Yahchanan (John) 5:28-30, “Do not be astonished at this-for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice, and will come forth. Those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live; and those who have practiced wickedness will be resurrected in order to be damned."

Acts 17:30-31, “In the past Yahweh winked at such ignorance, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent! For He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness, by a Man whom He has ordained; and He has given evidence to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

Romans 2:4-11, “Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering; not realizing that Yahweh’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But according to your stubborn and impenitent mind you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of Yahweh’s wrath, when the righteous judgment of Yahweh will be revealed; when He will reward each one according to his works: to the ones on the one hand, who, by patient persistence in doing righteousness, seek for glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But to the ones on the other hand, who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, He will give indignation and wrath.” Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man who does evil: to the Yahdai(Jew) first, and also to the Greek (Gentile) But glory, honor, and peace to every man who works righteousness: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.”

Colossians 3:24-25, “Knowing that from Yahweh you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve Yahshua the Messiah. But he who does wrong will receive the reward for the wrong he has done, and there is no respect of persons.”

1 Kepha (Peter) 1:17-18, “And if you call on the Father, Who without respect of persons judges according to each man’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your sojourning here in reverence. Knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, such as silver or gold, from your idolatrous way of life handed down to you by tradition from your fathers.”