What Laws are still valid to christians
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Yep. I have seen it, and refuted it.
There is no such things as faith alone. Impossible. James says it right here!
James does not say faith alone = dead.
He says NO FAITH will save you
True faith will produce works. Thus , again I repeat.. there is NO SUCH THING AS FAITH ALONE. You are just decieving yourself to try to add your works to the gospel.
But it does.
"For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.
His purpose was to create in himself one new man (body of Christ) out of the two, thus making peace, by which he put to death their hostility." (Eph 2:14-16)
His death on the cross created peace (reconciliation)
1) between Jew and Gentile, by abolishing the source of their hostility in the defilement laws, and making them into one new man, the body of Christ, and
2) between God and the one body of Jews and Gentiles (mankind), by forgiveness of their sin through faith his propitiating sacrifice (Ro 3:25), which gave them right standing (not quilty) before God.
His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two (Eph 2:15),
and then reconcile the one new man to God. (Eph 2:16)
"For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.
His purpose was to create in himself one new man (body of Christ) out of the two, thus making peace, by which he put to death their hostility." (Eph 2:14-16)
His death on the cross created peace (reconciliation)
1) between Jew and Gentile, by abolishing the source of their hostility in the defilement laws, and making them into one new man, the body of Christ, and
2) between God and the one body of Jews and Gentiles (mankind), by forgiveness of their sin through faith his propitiating sacrifice (Ro 3:25), which gave them right standing (not quilty) before God.
His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two (Eph 2:15),
and then reconcile the one new man to God. (Eph 2:16)
everyone who says im wrong for wanting to follow and tech Yahweh's Law is doing this
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
and those who say we shouldnt follow it
Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:
#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
and those who say we shouldnt follow it
Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:
#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
1) It doesn't negate God's salvation.
2) You are not taking into account that John wrote to those who were born again
that we are to confess our sins.
John was not writing to the unbeliever telling him to confess his sin in order to be saved.
He was writing to those who are saved.
You've got some reckoning to do with the word of God.
2) You are not taking into account that John wrote to those who were born again
that we are to confess our sins.
John was not writing to the unbeliever telling him to confess his sin in order to be saved.
He was writing to those who are saved.
You've got some reckoning to do with the word of God.
he will after every predestinated soul that is meant to be saved is saved [h=3]Romans 11:25[/h]King James Version (KJV)
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[h=3]2 Corinthians 3:13-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
see? that's why i say we shouldn't worry about them as much every one of them are saved the 144 000 that is meant to be saved they were purposely blinded so we can come in
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[h=3]2 Corinthians 3:13-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
see? that's why i say we shouldn't worry about them as much every one of them are saved the 144 000 that is meant to be saved they were purposely blinded so we can come in
Teaching about GOD's laws and teaching that one should follow GOD's laws are two very different things. You attempt to blur the distinction between them which delineates a huge difference. Those whom you accuse of disregarding GOD's laws fall into the first category. Of those on this forum, I don't think that I know of any who teach that GOD's laws should be disregarded for instructional and edification purposes. However, they do disregard your teaching of the necessity of being led by law, because they are being obedient to GOD's revealed will in scripture.
If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18
For all those who are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:14
For all those who are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:14
hizikyah i'm willing to have a nice reasonable conversation with you if you are willing, but you never listen to what i have to say to you, i'm willing to just discuss things, but you're just trying to justify your actions without even look at what i have to say, even from the bible, i believe if your willing to let go what you believe in and everyone just have an open minded conversation this thread would b closed
This is a mischaracterization on your part. We are not teaching anyone to disregard GOD's laws. We are simply teaching the manner in which GOD has revealed they are to be obeyed. On the other hand, those who trample underfoot GOD's revealed will, truly disregard GOD's commandments.
For I testify about them that they [i.e., law-cultists] have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For ignoring the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Romans 10:2-4
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. Why? Because they sought it not by faith, but by the works of the law [of Moses]. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; Romans 9:31-32
For I testify about them that they [i.e., law-cultists] have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For ignoring the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Romans 10:2-4
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. Why? Because they sought it not by faith, but by the works of the law [of Moses]. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; Romans 9:31-32