The Ten Commandments-Were they nailed to the Cross?

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It's time to repent then.



The law says:

Lev 19:18 ¶ Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.

hmmm and that is funny how you quote from leviticus hmmm you missed it is without cause
 
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It's time to repent then.



The law says:

Lev 19:18 ¶ Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
i thought we are not under law hmmm

Proverbs 3:30Strive not with a man without cause, if he have done thee no harm.
 
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The law says:

Lev 19:18 ¶ Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
The law says
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Leviticus 19

28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.
29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.
30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Lord.
 
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It's time to repent then.



The law says:

Lev 19:18 ¶ Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
Leviticus 19

17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.


2 Kings 2

23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of theLord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

 
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hmmm and that is funny how you quote from leviticus hmmm you missed it is without cause
I did? That's very strange since I quoted from the King James Bible.

i thought we are not under law hmmm
I'm a Christian, I'm not under Mosaic law.

Proverbs 3:30Strive not with a man without cause, if he have done thee no harm.
Proverbs 24:28Be not a witness against thy neighbour without cause; and deceive not with thy lips.
Proverbs is ketuvim not torah (law). Your post was about the law. Why change the subject from the law by quoting ketuvim ? :confused: It's basic Hebrew....

Prov 28:4 They that forsake the law (torah) praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.


Proverbs 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them

Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


  • Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

  • Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them
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  • Isaiah 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

 
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  • Ecclesiastes 8:2I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God.
  • Ecclesiastes 8:5Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment.
  • Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep hiscommandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
 
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I did? That's very strange since I quoted from the King James Bible.



I'm a Christian, I'm not under Mosaic law.





Proverbs is ketuvim not torah (law). Your post was about the law. Why change the subject from the law by quoting ketuvim ? :confused: It's basic Hebrew....

Prov 28:4 They that forsake the law (torah) praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.

you donot even kow what torah means go look it up ok
 
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Proverbs is ketuvim not torah (law). Your post was about the law. Why change the subject from the law by quoting ketuvim ? :confused: It's basic Hebrew....

Prov 28:4 They that forsake the law (torah) praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
you donot even kow what torah means go look it up ok
It means exactly what I wrote, it's basic Hebrew, remember?

-> Tanakh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Torah (תּוֹרָה, literally "teaching") consists of five books, commonly referred to as the "Five Books of Moses". Printed versions of the Torah are often called Chamisha Chumshei Torah (חמישה חומשי תורה, literally the "five five-sections of the Torah"), and informally a Chumash.

In Hebrew, the five books of the Torah are identified by the first prominent word in each book. The English names are derived from their Greek names in the Septuagint, which in turn are based on their thematic content:
1. (בְּרֵאשִׁית / Bərē’shît) - Genesis
2. (שמות / Shemot) - Exodus
3. (ויקרא / Vayikra) - Leviticus
4. (במדבר / Bəmidbar) - Numbers
5. (דְּבָרִים / Dəvārîm) - Deuteronomy
 
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It means exactly what I wrote, it's basic Hebrew, remember?


all that informatiom you have and still dont understand it how sad posting something and explaining it is completely different

you are not under the mosic law so dont read genesis ok
 
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It means exactly what I wrote, it's basic Hebrew, remember?

luke 24

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone furthe
 
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It means exactly what I wrote, it's basic Hebrew, remember?



let see the first five books are called the Law of Moses hmmm how ironic it is also mentioned in the bible

luke 24

44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me


genesis hmmmm the seed , exodus the Rock , leviticus the scape goat ,numbers the brasen snake , deuteronmy the Prophet

prophets Isaiah ,etc

psalms 22 etc hmmmm


hmmm
 
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I'm a Christian, I'm not under Mosaic law.
QUOTE] No Praus, if you are not under God's law, or the Mosaic Law, you are not a Christian. You are a Constantinian, a Roman Emperor who was not a Christian but told the romans to have a new religion that would have nothing to do with anything the Jewish people knew of God. A Christian is a person who grows in Christ as is explained in the book of Hebrews. You have accepted a religion to follow instead of truth in Christ.
 
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QUOTE] No Praus, if you are not under God's law, or the Mosaic Law, you are not a Christian. You are a Constantinian, a Roman Emperor who was not a Christian but told the romans to have a new religion that would have nothing to do with anything the Jewish people knew of God. A Christian is a person who grows in Christ as is explained in the book of Hebrews. You have accepted a religion to follow instead of truth in Christ.
The Epistle to Hebrews explains it very well--Jesus Christ is the High Priest after the order of Melchisedec, who lived by faith long before Moses.

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

:confused: Perhaps you're thinking of a different "book of Hebrews"?
 
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The Epistle to Hebrews explains it very well--Jesus Christ is the High Priest after the order of Melchisedec, who lived by faith long before Moses.
Here you go.

Gen 14:18-20 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he [was] the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed [be] Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

And not only long before Moses, Gen 14 was before the circumcision covenant in Gen 17. :eek:

Gen 17:10 This [is] my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

if you are not under God's law, or the Mosaic Law, you are not a Christian. You are a Constantinian, a Roman Emperor who was not a Christian but told the romans to have a new religion that would have nothing to do with anything the Jewish people knew of God. A Christian is a person who grows in Christ as is explained in the book of Hebrews. You have accepted a religion to follow instead of truth in Christ.
I am a Christian.


Red
Tent have you ever read the Epistle to Hebrews?
:confused:

Heb 5:6
As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Heb 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need [was there] that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
 
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No Praus, if you are not under God's law, or the Mosaic Law, you are not a Christian. You are a Constantinian, a Roman Emperor who was not a Christian but told the romans to have a new religion that would have nothing to do with anything the Jewish people knew of God. A Christian is a person who grows in Christ as is explained in the book of Hebrews. You have accepted a religion to follow instead of truth in Christ.
:confused: Perhaps you're thinking of a different "book of Hebrews"?
In the Epistle to Hebrews the word αἷμα (haima), blood, is more common in Hebrews than any other NT book.

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

You are a Constantinian, a Roman Emperor who was not a Christian but told the romans to have a new religion that would have nothing to do with anything the Jewish people knew of God.

"Almost all things" means sin under the law, generally speaking. That's how to interpret "almost all things" in the Torah where one finds the Mosaic law, which starts at about Exodus 16:4 and for a few books after that.

RedTent, you are not qualified to teach against the Epistle to Hebrews.

Why anyone would blame Constantine for their own longing to return to animal sacrifice in the temple is beyond my comprehension. Attempting to redefine the word Christian is even worse.


Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

Heb 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;



Word occurrence count for αἷμα (haima), by chapter, from Blue Letter Bible -> Greek Lexicon :: G129 (KJV)

Mark (9) Mark (3) Luke (7) John (6) Acts (12) Rom (3) 1Cor (4) Gal (1) Eph (3) Col (2) Heb (20) 1Pet (2) 1John (3) Rev (17)
 
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you donot even kow what torah means go look it up ok
Ok.

let see the first five books are called the Law of Moses hmmm how ironic it is also mentioned in the bible

luke 24

44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me


genesis hmmmm the seed , exodus the Rock , leviticus the scape goat ,numbers the brasen snake , deuteronmy the Prophet

prophets Isaiah ,etc

psalms 22 etc hmmmm


hmmm
:confused: So this is the first time you're discovering that the Torah and the Prophets are not the same books?

:confused: And you believe this is ironic?
 
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Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

"Almost all things" means sin under the law, generally speaking. That's how to interpret "almost all things" in the Torah where one finds the Mosaic law, which starts at about Exodus 16:4 and for a few books after that.
Oops, I should have provided the more verses for context that Heb 9:22 refers to animal sacrifice starting with Moses.

Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, 20 Saying, This [is] the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. 21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
 
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Hello brother,

Hope that you're doing ok.

Gal.5
[13] For, brethren, ye have been called (by GOD through Christ) unto liberty (from the Law);
only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve/ help one another.
[14] For all the (Moses) law is fulfilled in one word, even in this
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[15] But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

Rom.13
[8] Owe no man any thing, but to love one another:
for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the (Moses) law.
[9] For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment,
it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[10] Love worketh no ill to his neighbour:
therefore love is the fulfilling of the (Moses) law.

Matt.5
[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
[44] But I say unto you,
Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
[45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:
for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good,
and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
do not even the publicans the same?
[47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others?
do not even the publicans so?
[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So we must be like our Father who is in heaven.
What is he like?
Jesus disclosed his Father to Moses.

Exod.34
[5] And the LORD (Jesus( descended in the cloud, and stood with him there,
and proclaimed the name of the LORD (the Father).
[6] And the LORD (Jesus) passed by before him, and proclaimed,
The LORD, The LORD God,
merciful
and gracious,
longsuffering,
and abundant in goodness and truth,
[7] Keeping mercy for thousands,
forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin,
and that will by no means clear the (premeditated) guilty;
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children,
and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. (under the O.T.)
[8] And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

Moese knew there were two but he taught about one.
That is for another time.

Keep well.
 

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No Praus, if you are not under God's law, or the Mosaic Law, you are not a Christian.
you are a classic judaizer., and not a christian.

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

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John 1:17
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

Romans 3:28
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Romans 6:14
For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Romans 7:4
So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.

Romans 8:3
For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Acts 13:39
Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.

Galatians 2:16
know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 3:4
23But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

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Galatians 1
No Other Gospel

6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.