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Elin said:
Isdaniel said:
Elin said:
Isdaniel said:
hmm you really dont understand you said i said all the five books is the ceremonial law I said sections of the book there are dietry laws civil laws stc inth same bokks in smaller sections thus i asked if you did not see i said in the post large sections of the books not tje whole book
Please give m the number of that post that I may review it.
Post 245 - What is the Ceremonial Law?

When God led the children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage, He delivered to them in fiery majesty the Ten Commandments. This Holy law was spoken by God, written by God, recorded on tables of stone, and is of eternal duration.

At the same time
the ceremonial law, of temporary usage, was also delivered to the children of Israel. This law dealt with the ceremonial rites of the Jewish sanctuary service, and concerned itself with a system of religion that passed away at the cross. Large sections of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy describe in detail this temporary law.
And Leviticus includes not only the sacrificial laws of the sanctuary, but also the food laws and the purification laws not associated with the sanctuary.

The ceremonial law can easily be identified in scripture. It talks about circumcision (a religious Jewish rite), sacrifices, offerings, purifications, holy days and other rites associated with the Hebrew sanctuary service.
The ceremonial law also talks about food laws and purification laws not associated with the sanctuary service.

You should know this.
correction 4 books not five
Thank you.

I'm sorry, I still don't know what you are talking about.

I need someone to explain it to me.
 
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I've been told they were blue (sapphire).

Originally Posted by Isdaniel

well have a sunday okay i wil have a sabbath day

What colour are the ten commandments and Why




Elin speaking
I give up. . .what?


hmmm Elin i wonder when you were to;d is was blue before i post it up or after i post it up hmmmm
 
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Thank you.

I'm sorry, I still don't know what you are talking about.

I need someone to explain it to me.
Where on the tables of stone talks about sacrificing animals

Why is a law called the law of Moses ?
 
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[h=2]The Ceremonial law Holy days and feasts[/h]Before considering Colossians 2:16, Galatians 4:10 and Romans 14:5, getting some insight into the various feasts, holy days and sacrificial sabbaths will give us a much better understanding of this law and why Paul referred to it as bondage. Leviticus chapter 23 is the easiest and shortest way of covering these feasts and sabbaths so we will start there and then move onto Colossians 2:16 and the other passages.To fully understand the purpose of the ceremonial or sacrificial law, one must really understand the principle of typeand antitype. The sequence of days observed for the feasts as shown in scripture is the “type.” This sequence of days is symbolic of what was to come in the future and for its fulfilment which is the “antitype.” The type andantitype WILL and MUST therefore always match precisely.
 
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Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; you shall do no work therein: it is the SABBATH of the LORD in all your dwellings.The above verse refers to the fourth Commandment, i.e. Gods Sabbath. It is the “Sabbath of the Lord” and is part of that great eternal law of love that James called liberty.

Notice how it is listed separately from the other “feasts of the Lord.” Note also how it is a Holy convocation, that is, the Sabbath is a day intended for fellowshipping with other Christians and quality Holy time with our Creator. This is not part of the Mosaic Law!
The seventh day Sabbath is a memorial of creation that God established at creation and is not a day that originated with the Jews, it preceded them. When one of the feast days fell on the seventh day Sabbath, it was referred to as a high Sabbath day (John 19:31).

Leviticus 23:4-5
These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which you shall proclaim in their seasons. 5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S Passover.
This part of the sacrificial or ceremonial law was a shadow of the crucifixion of Jesus and is called “Passover or Pesach.” These and all the following verses in Leviticus chapter 23 are not part of God’s eternal Ten Commandment law. As verse four says, “these are the many feasts of the Lord” that are not moral
laws
and were temporary as they represented the work that Christ would do at the cross through
His
death and resurrection. Love however is not temporary and will never be nailed to the cross.
 
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what is exodus 23:14 to 23 Ex 24:1-8 Hebrews 9:19-21 about what law is this ?
Ex 23:14-23 are harvest feasts.

Ex 24:1-8 is cutting the Sinaitic Covenant in blood.

Heb 9:19-21 - is cleansing of the Tabernacle and its vessels by the blood.

As testaments (wills) were made effective by the death of the testator (Heb 9:16-17),
so covenants were ratified (made effective) by blood (death). (Heb 9:18-20)

All (vessels of) worship is faulty (impure) unless cleansed by the sprinkling of Christ's blood ( Heb 9:21-22; Jn 14:6).

the feast days are part of what law
In the tabernacle, God gave Moses seven feast days of Leviticus.
 
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Originally Posted by Isdaniel

well have a sunday okay i wil have a sabbath day

What colour are the ten commandments and Why




Elin speaking
I give up. . .what?


hmmm Elin i wonder when you were to;d is was blue before i post it up or after i post it up hmmmm
I was told before.

You asked for the color of the commandments, not the color of the stone.

They were blue like the pavement under God.
 
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​This seem like a very uninformed and unedifying discussion by some of you I have heard. Jesus said we shall exceed the old law. Examples in scripture( Matthew 5) are when Jesus said it has been said thou shall not kill ,but I say unto you if any has anger toward his brother without a cause he is in danger.It has been said not to commit adultery ,but I say if you even look on a woman with thoughts in your heart you have already committed adultery. It has been said love your neighbor and hate your enemies , but I say love them which persecute you do good to those who despite fully use you. that you may be children of your father which is in heaven ,for he makes the rain to fall on the evil and the good (Math5:17) Think not that I have come to destroy the law ,but to fulfill it. In the new covenant by the Holy Spirit dwelling within us , we are expected to exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees. (2 cor 2:3) Inasmuch as you are manifestly declared to be the epistles of Christ ministerd by us, written not with ink,but with the spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone (ten commandments) but in fleshly tables of the heart.(Rom 13:8) Owe no man anything, but to love one another, for he that loveth another has fulfilled the law. (9) For this thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness, thou shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself. (10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.(Rom 3:21) But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets, even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe.( Rom 2:14) For when the gentiles which have not the law , do by nature the things contained in the law,these having not the law , are a law unto themselves; (15) shewing the work of the law written in their hearts. There are way to many people here that pridefully think they are teachers,confusing people ,and quenching the Spirit who would like to teach us all through fellowship with one another and sharing what God has given to us. I think God is about to thin out some of the weeds, so take it for what it is worth. God bless those that he chooses.
 

Hizikyah

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Yeremyah 31:33, "After those days, says Yahweh: I will put My Law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; minds, and I will be their Father, and they will be My people."
8451. torah
torah: direction, instruction, law
Original Word: תּוֹרָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: torah
Phonetic Spelling: (to-raw')
Short Definition: law

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
 
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the Woman riding the beast was 1st century Jerusalem.
she was the Great Harlot.
the beast was Imperial Rome (Caesars)

read it yourself.

or play pin the number on the future pope all day long.
Why is it that you have no answer for the mark of the beast on the forehead or hand. Has it already been fulfilled and have some lost their 'head' over it? You can't give your answer above and then stop short of answering the mark. The mark sould be history to you and surely you would be able to come up with some historical evidence both past and present to signify this mark being taken or rejected. You can't identify the mark nor the number as you have done the beast because it is future and that would ruin your doctrine and expose your errors which you have given so much time to convince others and discredit those who oppose what you believe. The scriptures are there yet you are in conflict.
 
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Why is it that you have no answer for the mark of the beast on the forehead or hand. Has it already been fulfilled and have some lost their 'head' over it? You can't give your answer above and then stop short of answering the mark. The mark sould be history to you and surely you would be able to come up with some historical evidence both past and present to signify this mark being taken or rejected. You can't identify the mark nor the number as you have done the beast because it is future and that would ruin your doctrine and expose your errors which you have given so much time to convince others and discredit those who oppose what you believe. The scriptures are there yet you are in conflict.
Umm surely you jest that question wasn't answered before. :confused:

Nero and the libellus.

The Mark of the Beast - Richard Anthony

The Christians of the first century were under the military authority of Rome, a nation which openly proclaimed its rulers, the Caesars, to be divine. All those under the jurisdiction of Rome were required by law to publicly proclaim their allegiance to Caesar by burning a pinch of incense and declaring, "Caesar is Lord". Upon compliance with this law, the people were given a papyrus document called a "libellus", which they were required to present when either stopped by the Roman police or attempting to engage in commerce in the Roman marketplace, increasing the difficulty of "buying or selling" without this mark. This is the essence of Scripture’s warnings to the early Christians against taking upon themselves the "mark of the beast".

The Mark Of The Beast

A libellus (certificate) from the time of persecution under the emperor Decius

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To the officers in charge of the sacrifices​
of the village of Alexander’s Isle,​
from Aurelius Diogenes,​
the son of Satabus, of the village​
of Alexander’s Isle, aged about 72,​
with a scar on his right eyebrow.​
I have always sacrificed to the gods;​
and now in your presence, according​
to the commands,​
I have sacrificed and made a libation​
and tasted of the victims;​
and I desire you to subscribe.
Fare ye well.​

I, Aurelius Diogenes, have delivered this…
I, Mys[… the son of …]non, [saw him] sacrificing, and have subscribed​

In the first year of Imperator Caesar​
Caius Messius Quintus​
Trajanus Decius​
Pius Felix Augustus,​
on Epiphi 2 (= June 26, 250).​
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Libellus from the Time of Decius
 
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Ex 23:14-23 are harvest feasts.

Ex 24:1-8 is cutting the Sinaitic Covenant in blood.

Heb 9:19-21 - is cleansing of the Tabernacle and its vessels by the blood.

As testaments (wills) were made effective by the death of the testator (Heb 9:16-17),
so covenants were ratified (made effective) by blood (death). (Heb 9:18-20)

All (vessels of) worship is faulty (impure) unless cleansed by the sprinkling of Christ's blood ( Heb 9:21-22; Jn 14:6).



In the tabernacle, God gave Moses seven feast days of Leviticus.
When was passover law given ?
 
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How many year was it that it took for all the wicked to die in the wilderness ?
[h=3]Deuteronomy 2:13-14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

13 Now rise up, said I, and get you over the brook Zered. And we went over the brook Zered.
14 And the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the Lord sware unto them.
 
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everything was given on the mount Moses just reherse it when he came down


Deuteronomy 4:14And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.

ten commandment given also the book of the law at the same time on the mount
okay i think I am getting this statues and judgement stuff thing now that
were given in Exodus 21-40 with the some of the civil laws, offereings ,tabenacle etc
 
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lets me clear up this false teaching that because the apostles met to break braed on the first day

Point one the apostles gathered at the evening not morning hmmmm interesting do you see sunday churches doing that no offence i know you are a sunday keeper

point two After sabbath in the Jewish culture it is still praciced when sabbath cloes everyone meets to break bread in the night or at evening when curch is finish

A day does not star at midnight that is beast worship
Acts 20

King James Version (KJV)

20 And after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the disciples, and embraced them, and departed for to go into Macedonia.
2 And when he had gone over those parts, and had given them much exhortation, he came into Greece,
3 And there abode three months. And when the Jews laid wait for him, as he was about to sail into Syria, he purposed to return through Macedonia.
4 And there accompanied him into Asia Sopater of Berea; and of the Thessalonians, Aristarchus and Secundus; and Gaius of Derbe, and Timotheus; and of Asia, Tychicus and Trophimus.
5 These going before tarried for us at Troas.
6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
8And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.
9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.
10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.




Note paul preaching started after sabbath they abide seven days thus he kept the sabbath then as usual he preached at the sunset which signal the first day or evening until midnight this was not morning he started to preach hmmm read the whole chapter the jews still do this up today
i am understand a bit what you say because i learnt that back then the Jews calculted time different than How we do today thanks for this when I read it i went and looked it up it at sunset a day starts

but i am still doing my reserch
 
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okay i think I am getting this statues and judgement stuff thing now that
were given in Exodus 21-40 with the some of the civil laws, offereings ,tabenacle etc

You should check this book out