Why did god create dinosaurs and cavemen?

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TaylorTG

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God did not create Dinosaurs and cavemen.
Because they never existed, right?
Come on, we found fossils! Maybe those fossils don't prove the existence of the dinosaurs we think we know, but we're have to admit that there were kinds of creatures back then who don't exist today!
 
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God did not create Dinosaurs and cavemen.
That's not what the Bible says.

Gen 1:24-25 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
 
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TaylorTG

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Gen 1:24-25 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
The term beast don't need to be particularly related to dinosaur. Beast can also apply to wolves, sharks, and lions.
Everything that creepeth upon the Earth can apply to ants, rats, and cockroaches.
 
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Gen 1:24-25 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
The term beast don't need to be particularly related to dinosaur. Beast can also apply to wolves, sharks, and lions.
Everything that creepeth upon the Earth can apply to ants, rats, and cockroaches.
It's neither beast nor creeping thing. The Hebrew for the word cattle in Gen 1:24-25 is bĕhemah (בְּהֵמָה), which refers to all large terrestrial quadrupeds, both wild and domesticated.
 

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There are many cave homes around the Mediterranean countries today, thousands here in Spain alone.
 
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you are assuming that the radiocarbon dates are accurate...
The location of the burial of the The Red Lady of Paviland which is right on the sea edge in a totally inaccessible place surrounded by bones of mamouths etc, was before the last ice-age. The burial site was originally in the middle of a plane before the ice age. Sorry, radio carbon dating may be approximate, but there is no way that it going to be so inaccurate as to make a 29,000 year mistake on a 33,000 year old person.

In the Talmud, All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b.
 
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I'm wondering if anyone can explain why god made dinosaurs and cavemen?
For one, why do you suppose anyone here can speak for God? You can never really know why God did anything unless God tells you.

Second, go to book of Job. See how God responds when you ask him to explain Himself.

Now to answer why I think God made dinosaurs and cavemen:
- Dinosaurs were made for the sole purpose of contributing to the gene pool and furthering the diversification of life on Earth so that one day mammals would evolve to write posts in chat forum.

- Cavemen or pre-historic man was made to bridge the gap from primate mammals to larger brain homo-sapiens. Without them we would not have our great intelligence or ability to communicate with spoken and written language.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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Cave men were just people who happened to live in caves. They weren't dumb. They were likely more smart than we are now.
Agreed. They might not all have been able to read, but I bet few, if any, were mentally impaired enough to believe man came from monkeys. What beautiful irony. :)
 
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God created Adam and Eve

ther have been some who lived in caves like John the Baptist
and indians

the dinosaurs were not created in heaven because they were amalgamations of good animals by evil men
mesing with genes is why god destroyed the world
with a flood
and they died
in mass graves

Normal animals who die rot or get eaten and there is nothing left
when you get buried by water and mud you get preserved
they found dinosaurs with human footprints and rabbits next to them
they all ran for high ground in the flood
all died together


God never changes
he will do it again.
But he will not do it with water

2 Pet 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2 Pet 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2 Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Pet 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2 Pet 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2 Pet 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2 Pet 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
 
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If you will note the wording "all the fountains of the great deep were broken up," this is also translated and defined as springs or wells of the deep. Have you ever heard of the great aquifer that lies under the many of the western States? That is just one place were there is a vast deposit of underground water in this world.

.Setting this aside, either you are prepared to believe the inspired word, or you are not. With or without forty days of rain or springs and wells of water, the Maker of all that is, my Pop, is able to speak a word, and the Universe itself would be nothing but water.

There are so many criticisms that may be made without faith, beginning with someone being raised from the dead. Yahweh does whatever pleases Him, and because I believe Him, I know that whatever He does is good, as do all of His children, my family.


Gen 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.



There's not enough water in the world to flood the whole world.
 
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If you will note the wording "all the fountains of the great deep were broken up," this is also translated and defined as springs or wells of the deep. Have you ever heard of the great aquifer that lies under the many of the western States? That is just one place were there is a vast deposit of underground water in this world.

.Setting this aside, either you are prepared to believe the inspired word, or you are not. With or without forty days of rain or springs and wells of water, the Maker of all that is, my Pop, is able to speak a word, and the Universe itself would be nothing but water.

There are so many criticisms that may be made without faith, beginning with someone being raised from the dead. Yahweh does whatever pleases Him, and because I believe Him, I know that whatever He does is good, as do all of His children, my family.


Gen 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

You're trying to use the Bible as a science book, rather than let science interpret the bible.

The building of the Ark must have been quite recent in terms of world history, as Stone Age man could not have built it. It is obvious that the "earth" must be taken to infer the land lived in by Noah. In fact i would say that the term "earth" is a mistranslation. It should be translated as "land."

By the age of Noah, mankind was already dispersed all over the face of the globe. By 33,000BC they were already living in Britain. Thus the flood could not have killed all of mankind, and in any event, Noah's descendants would have suffered from genetic defects had they not been able to marry outside their clan.
 

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Science book? Not at all. I believe the Bible is the source of all wisdom as long as the Holy Spirit gives understanding. All believers do this, though some not consciously, all do.

Earth has many words in Hebrew but the translators have been meticulous in how the Word has been translated into all languages. Sometimes it is world, sometimes it is the ground, sometimes it is the land, and it is sometimes plain old earth. There is no reason to move around the definitions of words translated to native tongues from the Word because our Dad has made certain what He wants conveyed is conveyed.

You use the time scale of man, which has changed several times in my lifetime. I am adept at using and applying the geological column to what is the accumulation of what is falsely called knowledge, but I sure do not believe it. All the collected data and knowledge of this age will burn in the fire next time. If your only hope is in what you see, you will never know Jesus Christ, but you will be filled with yourself, and this last condition is not eternal.
 
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Science book? Not at all. I believe the Bible is the source of all wisdom as long as the Holy Spirit gives understanding.
The KJV translates Strongs H776 in the following manner: land (1,543x), earth (712x), country (140x), ground (98x), world (4x), way (3x), common (1x), field (1x), nations (1x), wilderness (with H4057) (1x).

It is extremely likely that the "earth" as inferring the planet "earth" simply did not exist when Genesis was written.

Therefore "earth" is a mistranslation, just because that meaning did not exist when the text was written.

It's time to stop hurling accusations at people who disagree with you, and start understanding the limited context of Genesis.
 

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If I have expressed what I believe, and it is taken as an accusation, there is nothing I may do to alleviate that impression.

As for the definition of eretz from the Hebrew, I was giving some of the meanins off the top of my head. There are also other words for land and earth such as adamah, which shares the same root as Adam, dam, damdam, damah. Adam means man or mankind while it is also known as a name. Dam is blood. Damdam is red, and so on.

There is another Hebrew word for world, ebel, and also another, olam. When any one of these words is employed in Hebrew or by very able translators, they are employed in the context of what the truly indend to say.

My comment about being filled with knowledge of this age without anything eternal included stands, it is not a name calling by any means, it is an honest appraisal from my mind, heart and soul. No one has called anyone any names. Please read it again. There is no name being called.

I believe this to be true of anyone who puts his faith in only what he can see. You do know I could be wrong, do you not? I do, but obviously I do nt think so at present. Thank you, and may Light be shone for your way. Allow me to qualify what I have said here when I pronounde the blessing of light for you, it means should you already be in the light, then more light, and if not, new light.
 

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You're trying to use the Bible as a science book, rather than let science interpret the bible.
You have this 180 degrees out of phase. We should let the Bible interpret science. The Bible is the gold standard.

The building of the Ark must have been quite recent in terms of world history, as Stone Age man could not have built it.
I agree with this. Especially in the light of the fact there was no Stone Age man.

It is obvious that the "earth" must be taken to infer the land lived in by Noah. In fact i would say that the term "earth" is a mistranslation. It should be translated as "land."
That why you find fossils of marine life in the Rocky Mountains?

By the age of Noah, mankind was already dispersed all over the face of the globe. By 33,000BC they were already living in Britain.
There were no humans on earth in 33,000BC.

Thus the flood could not have killed all of mankind, and in any event, Noah's descendants would have suffered from genetic defects had they not been able to marry outside their clan.
You are right, it didn't kill ALL of mankind, it killed all but eight...

1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
 
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There's not enough water in the world to flood the whole world.
That is incorrect.

Ocean Stratification

The ocean extends over 70.8% of the earth's surface. Seawater fills the basins separating the continents (Fig. 1) with an average depth of 3795 meters. The continental margins, extending from the seashore to around 2500 meters depth, cover 40.7% of the ocean (29% of Earth surface). The deep ocean covers about 59.3% of the ocean's surface (42% of Earth's surface). The extensive flat plains of the deep basins range 4000 to 5000 meters in depth. The mid-ocean ridge, marking the spreading axis of the crust tectonic plates is marked by rugged topography; the ridge crest is about 2500 m deep. The deepest ocean is found in the trenches where the plates are subducted, the Mariana Trench is 11,035 meters deep (compared to the 8848 meter height of Mount Everest). If the solid earth were made into a flat plain, the seawater would cover the entire earth to a depth of 2440 meters. If all of the water vapor in the atmosphere were converted to liquid it would cover the smoothed earth surface by about an 1-inch.



Ocean Stratification

 
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2440 meters is about 1 1/2 miles deep. So yes there is far more than enough water to flood the whole entire earth.