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amen. 
you know this actually happened to me and i was confuse at first because i didn't know what was happening, i went searching the internet lol seeking to find out what happen to me that just made me entire life change, because i wasn't addicted to smoking anymore i had no desire to go to parties drink curse nothing at all my speech completely changed i was actually a little freaked out for a while lol, what got me was when i opened a bible again it was like the words were completely magnified i read it before but now.. i can like understand what it was saying it was a strange feeling, but then i got my anwsers when i came across this scripture [h=3]2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV / 14 helpful votes[/h]Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.
when i saw this... i was like oh my goodness this happen to me! then reality stepped in that God is real and every word in the bible is real and now i'm here still growing in christ
you know this actually happened to me and i was confuse at first because i didn't know what was happening, i went searching the internet lol seeking to find out what happen to me that just made me entire life change, because i wasn't addicted to smoking anymore i had no desire to go to parties drink curse nothing at all my speech completely changed i was actually a little freaked out for a while lol, what got me was when i opened a bible again it was like the words were completely magnified i read it before but now.. i can like understand what it was saying it was a strange feeling, but then i got my anwsers when i came across this scripture [h=3]2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV / 14 helpful votes[/h]Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.when i saw this... i was like oh my goodness this happen to me! then reality stepped in that God is real and every word in the bible is real and now i'm here still growing in christ
but you wanna know the good part? [h=3]John 6:44[/h]King James Version (KJV)
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
everyone of us that is sealed with the holy spirit were called my God himself, imagine that God called all of us sinful beings.. to receive the holy spirit, God is good
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
everyone of us that is sealed with the holy spirit were called my God himself, imagine that God called all of us sinful beings.. to receive the holy spirit, God is good
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I think you know when you actually are familiar with the overall plan of God . That you know the antichrist comes first, and what your roll at that time will be. That is just a short thought. But you need God's word, the meat of it, lock and in place. Think of the Gospel armor written in Ephesians .
The counter to that, is the mark of Satan, in your mind. That simply means you are deceived, and you will be deceived if your here during that time. Why ? because you do not have the seal of God in your mind; no truth.
The counter to that, is the mark of Satan, in your mind. That simply means you are deceived, and you will be deceived if your here during that time. Why ? because you do not have the seal of God in your mind; no truth.
You are absolutely right, God said to obey His voice. Moses was chosen to 'hear His voice" because the people were frightened when they heard the voice of God. So Moses recorded God's Words. His Word is His voice. Ministers, preachers and teachers are sometimes His voice. Jesus is His voice and His Words are recorded. The question is "was Jesus the God of the Old Testament"? I believe He was and that He is also God with us. The problem you have seems to be that you believe Moses spoke on his own and that the recorded Words in the Torah are not God's Words. This is our major dividing line. But I will share more of His Word and how I know that I know that I know His voice.
God said we learn precept by precept and line upon line, right?
The Entire Bible is God's Word. The Entire Bible is still applicable today in our lives. It is in maturity that saints have "ears that hear" and "eyes that see".
Jesus said "John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."
And John 10:14 "I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine."
Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Hear, O Israel
Deuteronomy 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
And Jesus quotes the scriptures Mark 12:29-31:
In the "Old Testament" there are over a 100 scriptures relating to how to love and interact with your NEIGHBOUR. Just saying, I believe Jesus simplified the lengthy code, because they all knew the scriptures (scriptures being the Tanach/Old Testament) and there was no need to quote every one of them. Kind of like this: Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Matthew 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.
Look up each of these:
Matthew 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 4:23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Luke 8:8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Luke 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
I don't believe you are hearing the voice of the Good Shepherd, yet. Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Deu 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
Deu 4:31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
Deu 4:32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it?
Deu 4:33 Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?
I don't know about you, but I have never heard the audible voice of God, but our ancestors did and all His Words are recorded for us today in the scriptures.
The problem, as I understand it, there is no dispensation of Israel and the Church being two separate entities being dealth with differently. That is an inherited lie from our fathers and the prophet Jeremiah spoke God's Words and it has been recorded for us today. Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
Jesus did not change the Sabbath to Sunday or all days of the week. That is another inherited lie from our fathers.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Proverbs 24:21 My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change:
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
I've stated it before, but worth stating again, Deu 29:12 That thou shouldest enter into covenant with the LORD thy God, and into his oath, which the LORD thy God maketh with thee this day:
Deu 29:13 That he may establish thee to day for a people unto himself, and that he may be unto thee a God, as he hath said unto thee, and as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.
Deu 29:14 Neither with you only do I make this covenant and this oath;
Deu 29:15 But with him that standeth here with us this day before the LORD our God, and also with him that is not here with us this day:
So do you agree HEROSEFROMTHEDEAD that you believe that God changed and Jesus changed God's covenant to include omitting the fourth commandment?
God said we learn precept by precept and line upon line, right?
The Entire Bible is God's Word. The Entire Bible is still applicable today in our lives. It is in maturity that saints have "ears that hear" and "eyes that see".
Jesus said "John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."
And John 10:14 "I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine."
Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Hear, O Israel
Deuteronomy 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
And Jesus quotes the scriptures Mark 12:29-31:
In the "Old Testament" there are over a 100 scriptures relating to how to love and interact with your NEIGHBOUR. Just saying, I believe Jesus simplified the lengthy code, because they all knew the scriptures (scriptures being the Tanach/Old Testament) and there was no need to quote every one of them. Kind of like this: Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Matthew 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.
Look up each of these:
Matthew 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 4:23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Luke 8:8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Luke 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
I don't believe you are hearing the voice of the Good Shepherd, yet. Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Deu 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
Deu 4:31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God
he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them. Deu 4:32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it?
Deu 4:33 Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?
I don't know about you, but I have never heard the audible voice of God, but our ancestors did and all His Words are recorded for us today in the scriptures.
The problem, as I understand it, there is no dispensation of Israel and the Church being two separate entities being dealth with differently. That is an inherited lie from our fathers and the prophet Jeremiah spoke God's Words and it has been recorded for us today. Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
Jesus did not change the Sabbath to Sunday or all days of the week. That is another inherited lie from our fathers.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Proverbs 24:21 My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change:
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
I've stated it before, but worth stating again, Deu 29:12 That thou shouldest enter into covenant with the LORD thy God, and into his oath, which the LORD thy God maketh with thee this day:
Deu 29:13 That he may establish thee to day for a people unto himself, and that he may be unto thee a God, as he hath said unto thee, and as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.
Deu 29:14 Neither with you only do I make this covenant and this oath;
Deu 29:15 But with him that standeth here with us this day before the LORD our God, and also with him that is not here with us this day:
So do you agree HEROSEFROMTHEDEAD that you believe that God changed and Jesus changed God's covenant to include omitting the fourth commandment?
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You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
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You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
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You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
Hello.
There are two seals mentioned in the verse, two types, and for a very good reason. The law of faith has to do with some very particulars, when it comes to the doctrine of God. Faith to faith, is speaking of God. Some are saved by God's faith & some are saved through God's faith, all things are of God, because He is faithful. If our works, today, have been prepared in advance, this means something important also. The Scripture, the kjbible, is very detailed in words & terms, above all other/modern translations for good reason. The holy Spirit of promise, with a little "h", means something significant. So does the use of the term faith of Christ, for example in Rms 3:22, Gal 2:16, 20. This doctrine, the faith of Christ is important, because for one, we have access by this faith Eph 3:12, to grace. For two, it is part of the fruit of the Spirit in kjv Gal 5:22. It is the armour we are to put on, Eph 6:16. It is the faith we are to come into unity under, the faith of Christ, we are to trust in it, that is the testimony of God the Father when He raised Him from the dead to give all men assurance Acts 17:30-31, Rms 4:5, Rms 4:25 kjv.
There are two seals for various inheritances. He has joined two in by one body, for thr reconciling of dominions of realms. There are two elections of vocation, areas of predestination and so on.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.
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You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
You can tell them this till thy kingdom come yet they will not hear because He does not want to raise from the dead will neber raised from the dead false doctrine get it hmmm
your probably is you don't understand what we are trying to say your wondering, how we can be christians and we are saying to put your trust in something other than law your wondering how we can claim to be righteous when we are not under the law, when my righteousness comes from the spirit of christ always has been and always will, when i put my completely focus on him the world grows strangely dim, i am completely dead to the world sin no longer has a hold on me, do any of you even understand what that even means? sin no longer has a hold on anymore than has received christ, what is sin? sin is breaking the commandments correct? well if sin no longer has a hold on me through the spirit doesn't that mean that the holy spirit when we accepts him makes us live a righteous life no matter what, since we are free from sin? all i can do is tell you what i experienced.
I speak obedience to Yahweh's Law and im not "putting my trust in Law."
Im putting my trust in what Yahweh and Yahshua say:
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."
Deuteronomy 10:12-13, "And now, O Israyl, what does Yahweh your Father require of you, but to reverence Yahweh your Father by walking in all His ways, by loving Him, by serving Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul. By keeping the Laws of Yahweh, with His statutes, which I command you this day, so that you may be blessed?"
Im putting my trust in what Yahweh and Yahshua say:
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."
Deuteronomy 10:12-13, "And now, O Israyl, what does Yahweh your Father require of you, but to reverence Yahweh your Father by walking in all His ways, by loving Him, by serving Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul. By keeping the Laws of Yahweh, with His statutes, which I command you this day, so that you may be blessed?"