Should posting in the Christian Singles Forum be restricted to users 18 and older?

[jkalyna]

I voted No, simply for one reason.
A free person shouldn't unnecessarily have restrictions placed upon them if they conduct themselves properly in accordance with the website rules and guidelines.
If any person does not, the Admin team can address it or Ban if needed.
This applies to all persons great and small male or female regardless of Age.
A person shouldn't have restrictions placed on them from something if they've done no wrong.

That being said, I also see the other side of the coin where a teens parent could very likely have concerns about their child visiting a single forum with adults, and/or seeking advice from other adults than their own parent. I would be concerned for my son if he were doing so and not telling me.

A parent should do their job of parenting and monitor what their children do and what websites they visit.
I noticed someone mentioned that a lot of teens date.
While this is unfortunate due not the possible repercussions... but the highly likely repercussions that result, at the same time a lot of parents AllOW their teens to date without providing proper guidelines.
So whats a teen to do?
Except be left to seek the advice of their other teen friends.
(that's not a better scenario).
If my son were searching forums without my knowledge as so many teens do, I would rather it be a Christian website with Christian advice offered, than youtube or google or whatever else.

This is true. I second your opinion. This is a Christian Forum, why put up road blocks to communication. Going with no.

 

[rachelsedge]

Is there a reason the other thread is gone?

 

[lil_christian]

Is there a reason the other thread is gone?

Robo made an audio thingy, but if you don't have time to listen to the audio,this quote below is taken from the Streams thread.

Robo's decision, transcribed:

"As for me, personally, again, it's not a big deal to me either way. I think at this point, it's not really necessary to make a rule, but I think as a matter of policy, that we should and do (and we will and do) reserve the right to ask any person who's age or status (or whatever) isn't really appropriate for a particular forum to refrain...I mean, we really never do that, but in this case, say a 13 year-old or 14-year-old? You know, we do reserve the right, who's posting excessively in the Christian Singles Forum, we do reserve the right to tell them to post elsewhere, in the teens forum or whatever. So please, don't go and make a big deal out of it if we do ever exercise that right as we may deem it best, or as it may make our jobs easier. At this point, as it applies, I don't think it will really affect anyone except the person that we already banned, who, again, I think was the main concern or cause of all of this."

Basically, if they think someone too young to be posting here is posting here, they reserve the right to tell them to post elsewhere. But otherwise, they're not going to make a rule or change anything. Evie can stay put. Married people are not booted. We all good, yo.

I kind of wonder how long it took to transcribe that.

 

[Shouryu]

Robo made an audio thingy, but if you don't have time to listen to the audio,this quote below is taken from the Streams thread.



I kind of wonder how long it took to transcribe that.

Just a few minutes. Listen for 5 seconds, type, listen, type, listen, type.

 

[surprisingrose]

Shucks, missed the poll, but definitely would restrict to a minimum of 18, even then, that seems kind of young to be with 30s, 40s and 50s... etc..

 

[MidniteWelder]

Is there a reason the other thread is gone?

Yes.......

 

[RoboOp]

Not until you've explained your accent, which bounces from elements of MN/WI to OK/AR within the same sentence. Did you move to a different region of the country every year you were growing up or something???

Not sure what to say to that except that your guesses are all wrong

I don't think I have any accent

Anyway I'm from the south but have lived abroad many years.

 

[RoboOp]

Is there a reason the other thread is gone?

Well I moved it out of sight, simply because it would be misleading and confusing to new users, since it says there's a new rule (and now there is no new rule). I could put it back but don't you think it would be confusing? Anyway if anyone wants the text of their post (if you want to repost it here or whatever) let me know, we still have the thread tucked away

 

[RoboOp]

Robo made an audio thingy, but if you don't have time to listen to the audio,this quote below is taken from the Streams thread.



I kind of wonder how long it took to transcribe that.

Man it's scary to see my words quoted like that

Well anyway I hope everyone is happy......... though is that ever possible?

 

[wisebeardman]

I don't think I have any accent

.

yes, you have an accent..

 

[GaryA]

Well I moved it out of sight, simply because it would be misleading and confusing to new users, since it says there's a new rule (and now there is no new rule). I could put it back but don't you think it would be confusing? Anyway if anyone wants the text of their post (if you want to repost it here or whatever) let me know, we still have the thread tucked away

RoboOp:

Perhaps, if you put it back the way it was - but, with an added notation to post #1 indicating that a "reversal" was afterward / ultimately achieved - making the "new rule" nullified...?

Just a thought...

 

[GaryA]

Clarification

My use of the phrase 'subject matter' in this thread is not intended to mean the quality of the content of the threads; rather, it is intended to mean the realm of the kinds of topics that should normally be expected to be discussed within the forum based on the 'theme' of the forum.

 

[GaryA]

Lord willing - I will try to address this later tonight after I get home from work.

Please take notice that I have not yet voted in the poll. There is a very good reason for this.

Also, I would like to make some suggestions. However, it will take me some time to write them into a post...

"Delays, delays, delays..."

After leaving work at 8:00 P.M. Monday, I had to go back in to work at 6:00 A.M Tuesday.

( "Kinda killed the opportunity for writing any long posts Monday night..." )

"I'm working on it..."

 

[GaryA]

Its not very difficult to guess who that person was that first brought this idea up.

If by any chance you are thinking that it was me -- you are so off-the-scale incorrect that it is ridiculous.

Also -- you just might be very surprised ( in a positive way ) at some of what I have to say to this issue...

 

[GaryA]

About a quarter of the people voting yes I've never seen post in the Singles Forum before, to be completely honest.

While you are certainly making a [ partially ] valid point here ( because you feel those people are lacking in the 'experience' of the Singles Forum, thereby diminishing their overall perspective of this situation in particular - which is only partially valid, because the actual 'issue' has a much larger scope ) -- it does not mean that those people do not have - at the very least, what they consider to be - your best interest at heart. RoboOp rarely if ever posts in the Singles Forum. Does his opinion matter? ( I say this with specific regard to his having your best interest at heart - not simply because he is the site owner. )

 

[GaryA]

I noticed that, too. In the first 24 hours, less than 20 people had voted, all regulars. Then in the last 12, suddenly there's 80 votes, and easily half of them are people who haven't participated in Singles since March.

But yeah...for a while the no's were ahead, then it got tied, and then, out of nowhere, the votes for the yes's went up about 10% more than the no's (about 60% have voted yes, 40% are saying it's a no-go).

Has it occurred to you yet that a lot of folks on here may not be logged in 24/7 or may not even log in as often as once a day? And, that the passage of time would naturally and normally show forth more and more member participation as they log in and subsequently become aware of this thread?

"Just sayin'..."

 

[wisebeardman]

While you are certainly making a [ partially ] valid point here ( because you feel those people are lacking in the 'experience' of the Singles Forum, thereby diminishing their overall perspective of this situation in particular - which is only partially valid, because the actual 'issue' has a much larger scope ) -- it does not mean that those people do not have - at the very least, what they consider to be - your best interest at heart. RoboOp rarely if ever posts in the Singles Forum. Does his opinion matter? ( I say this with specific regard to his having your best interest at heart - not simply because he is the site owner. )

using roboop as a bad example honestly, how about this "Joe" is a member been a member for 2 years but NEVER posts in the forums only does the chat thing.. Joe happens to vote in this poll.

To me Joe has no real weight in the matter, Joe dont post in this forum, ether way what happens don't effect Joe. Sorta Like a UK citizen saying they like "x" for president of the USA.

 

[GaryA]

using roboop as a bad example honestly, how about this "Joe" is a member been a member for 2 years but NEVER posts in the forums only does the chat thing.. Joe happens to vote in this poll.

To me Joe has no real weight in the matter, Joe dont post in this forum, ether way what happens don't effect Joe. Sorta Like a UK citizen saying they like "x" for president of the USA.

Using RoboOp is the "perfect" example. I believe that you totally missed my point entirely.

This statement does not resemble in any way the true nature and reality of the issue at hand.

The Singles Forum is a category for organizing threads within a collection of various 'themes'.

In political terms, it does not have its own 'realm' within the Christian Chat universe. It is not democratic. It has no jurisdiction at all whatsoever.

No collective set of members may "lock themselves in the Singles Forum 'room' and declare sovereignty over the 'room' and make demands about how they are treated or how the 'room' should or should not be utilized"...

The 'theme' of a forum is based on one or more of:

~ a characteristic commonality of members

New Christian Chat Members (Introduce yourselves!!!)
Christian Family Forum
Christian Singles Forum
Christian Teens Forum
Christian Young Adults Forum
Arab Christian Forum
Filipino Christian Forum
Indian Christian Forum

~ a special common interest held by members

Bible Discussion Forum
Christian Music Forum
Christian News Forum
Christian Poems & Poetry
Conspiracy & Corruption Discussion Forum
Heavenly Recipes
Natural Health Forum

~ a site-based specific designated purpose

Christian Chat Announcements
Attacks against Christian Chat
Prayer Requests
Suggestions
Testimonies
User2User Tech Support

~ a general designated purpose

Miscellaneous


The 'theme' of a forum defines what kind of threads it [ normally ] should contain -- and possibly, who should [ normally ] be posting in it.


The 'theme' of the Singles Forum is -- well -- "singles" -- the people, the experiences, the issues, etc.

Every thread in the Singles Forum [ ideally ] should have something to do with "singles"... Why? Because, that is the category and the 'theme' of the forum.

In likewise fashion - every thread in the Natural Health Forum [ ideally ] should have something to do with Natural Health.

Any thread, the topic of which does not match the intention of the theme of a forum - should be placed in a more appropriate forum, if at all possible...

It is really that simple.


I believe the statement that lil_christian made carries with it a subtle implication that only those who [ regularly? ] post in the Singles Forum can have a proper perspective of the issue at hand and are fully qualified to vote in the poll -- as if the issue at hand were somehow "contained" within the forum itself - when, in truth, the issue at hand is entirely outside of the forum itself. RoboOp, being the owner AND ( I believe ) having the good intent of heart to look out for everyone's best interest -- means that his opinion definitely matters - thereby destroying the validity of the implication "outright"...

 

[wisebeardman]

heh its going over your head, you fail to miss how forums end up working no matter what ever forum it is, certain groups will center around certain forum cats (category). those become the regulars of the cat. the regs run the show in that cat. ITS LIKE THAT ON EVERY FORUM ON THE INTERNET!
Think of forums cats like channels on a cb radio. certain groups hang on certain channels.

"No collective set of members may "lock themselves in the Singles Forum 'room' and declare sovereignty over the 'room' and make demands about how they are treated or how the 'room' should or should not be utilized"..."

You keep saying how everyone should go here and post or go there and post. ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. (believe me when I say this I have been owner of websites and moderator/admin at other sites) forums take on a personality defined by the regs. Singles has regs just as every other cat on this forum has regs. its not going to change no matter how much you wish it to. I mainly post in Singles. why? cause I find it most pleasing. when outsiders who never post here come in here voting in a poll which could very well alienate some people we in singles like, we get miffed about it.

Like it or not, the regs here have "locked themself here" and not much is going to change that. I get you want to make things "better" but trust me I am not an Idiot and I know how forums work and they do end up with a personality. and when and outsider tries to disrupt that personality bad things happen.

 

[lil_christian]

While you are certainly making a [ partially ] valid point here ( because you feel those people are lacking in the 'experience' of the Singles Forum, thereby diminishing their overall perspective of this situation in particular - which is only partially valid, because the actual 'issue' has a much larger scope ) -- it does not mean that those people do not have - at the very least, what they consider to be - your best interest at heart. RoboOp rarely if ever posts in the Singles Forum. Does his opinion matter? ( I say this with specific regard to his having your best interest at heart - not simply because he is the site owner. )

Whether my point is valid or not, the situation has been resolved.