How Old Is The Earth?

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eternally-gratefull

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I am not Angela but, just out of curiosity, what "problems" did you have in mind?
I was wondering the same. I don't see any problems..lol
 

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When you drop this kind of information, it would be good to quote your source. I would be interested in the scientific stories behind this information. Thanks.


What he is referring to is the speed of light variable in relation to the observer. This is a chaos math theory that does bear some examination.
 
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That is not a metric for temporal measurement. It is simply illustrating the fact that God is not subject to nor contingent upon time. It certainly does not mean that he does not know the difference between a day and 1000 years nor that he does not recognize the relevance of each.
If you read 2 Peter 3:8, Peter is telling us not to be ignorant of this one thing, and that one thing is: "1 day is with the Lord as a 1000 years, and a 1000 years as 1 day." Is it possible for the Lord to reach accross the eternal plane and into the material world and give Peter a small mathmatical glimpse of God's time in comparison to our time?
 

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If you read 2 Peter 3:8, Peter is telling us not to be ignorant of this one thing, and that one thing is: "1 day is with the Lord as a 1000 years, and a 1000 years as 1 day." Is it possible for the Lord to reach accross the eternal plane and into the material world and give Peter a small mathmatical glimpse of God's time in comparison to our time?
So, how do you suppose that this suggests one can use these two time values synonymously at our whim when reading scripture?
 
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Dr. Jonathan Sarfati of Creation Ministries International gives scientific evidence for a young earth and also points out various scientific anomalies relating to the old earth model: How old is the earth? - creation.com

Catastrophism and the occurrence of worldwide flood in the past better explains the earth's geology than the uniformitarianism that old earthers posit.
 
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Uh... what???? Scripture please


And Yahweh Elohim built (way·yi·ḇen) the side which He had taken from the man into a woman, and brought her (way·ḇi·’e·hā) to the man. And the man said, This now at last( hap·pa·‘am) is bone from my bones, and flesh from my flesh. For this shall be called Woman, because this has been taken out of man. (Gen 2.22 – 23)



As the first human clone, three things in these two passages indicate that Eve was created as a child needing to be raised separate from Adam before she was presented back as an age-appropriate mate.



· The Hebrew verb ‘banah’, employed for the creation of Eve, carries with it the meaning to ‘have children’ and ‘obtain children’.

· The Hebrew verb ‘bo’ informs the reader that after Eve was created from Adam, she then had to be brought back to Adam because she was not with Adam. If Eve had been created as a same-age-adult as Adam, them why would Adam have not woken up with Eve by his side to begin with?

· The exclamation ‘hap·pa·‘am’ (at last!) by Adam indicates that he had been waiting for his mate for a very long time. ‘Paam’ carries with it the definition of ‘annual’ and ‘time’, indicating long duration.
 
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Alot of fluff there.

God created man on on day, male and female he created them..

why do people want to twist the literal word of God to make a doctrine which does line up with Gods word??


[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[SUP][b][/SUP] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” [SUP]27 [/SUP]So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”


[SUP]29 [/SUP]And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. [SUP]30 [/SUP]Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. [SUP]31 [/SUP]Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

so did he create them on day 6. or did he lie??

The Hebrew term for 'day' is 'yawm', and carries with it the definition of 'age' and epochs of time. That it refers to epochs of time can be deciphered by the sequential numbering set forth in the Gen 1 narrative.

It could best be referred to as 'time'....time 1, time 2, etc...

God ceased His creative activity in 'time 6' when he had achieved His goal of creating mankind.

He has not created any new species since mankind...and we are still in 'time 7' (Day 7)....and He will not create again until He creates the New Heavens and New Earth...what we call Heaven - where we can be in His direct presence with Him.
 
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The Hebrew term for 'day' is 'yawm', and carries with it the definition of 'age' and epochs of time. That it refers to epochs of time can be deciphered by the sequential numbering set forth in the Gen 1 narrative.

It could best be referred to as 'time'....time 1, time 2, etc...

God ceased His creative activity in 'time 6' when he had achieved His goal of creating mankind.

He has not created any new species since mankind...and we are still in 'time 7' (Day 7)....and He will not create again until He creates the New Heavens and New Earth...what we call Heaven - where we can be in His direct presence with Him.
while your correct in your assumption of how day can be translated.

again, The terms "and the evening and the morning" gives us context. that they were literal days, not ages or epochs.

God rested on the seventh day, and told us to rest on that day also. another proof in context. that the day was a literal 24 hour day.
 
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while your correct in your assumption of how day can be translated.

again, The terms "and the evening and the morning" gives us context. that they were literal days, not ages or epochs.
Cueing off of 'evening and morning' would be 12hrs...NOT 24 hrs.




God rested on the seventh day, and told us to rest on that day also. another proof in context. that the day was a literal 24 hour day.
The seventh 'day' was initiated but NEVER closed like the previous six.

Another clue that each 'day' is NOT 24 hrs in length....and that we are still in the seventh day.
 
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The earth is approximately 6000 years old. From Adam to Abraham 2000 years, Abraham to Jesus 2000 years, Jesus to now 2000 years, approximately.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Cueing off of 'evening and morning' would be 12hrs...NOT 24 hrs.


and your point? He is talking about the evening and the morning. then he starts a new day.

talk about twisting something.


The seventh 'day' was initiated but NEVER closed like the previous six.


again your trying to pull things out where we should not be pulling somthing out. Hr did not have to say the seventh day ended, he said he rested on the seventh day periond. he di dnot have to say anything else.

Another clue that each 'day' is NOT 24 hrs in length....and that we are still in the seventh day.


no clue at all. the sabath (which begins and ends) is the clue which shows us your interpretation here is faulty, otherwise, our first sabaath day would never end. it would be a continual sabbath
 
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Was all physical creation accomplished in just six days sometime within the past 6,000 to 10,000 years?
The facts disagree with such a conclusion: (1) Light from the Andromeda nebula can be seen on a clear night in the northern hemisphere. It takes about 2,000,000 years for that light to reach the earth, indicating that the universe must be at least millions of years old. (2) End products of radioactive decay in rocks in the earth testify that some rock formations have been undisturbed for billions of years.
Genesis 1:3-31 is not discussing the original creation of matter or of the heavenly bodies. It describes the preparation of the already existing earth for human habitation. This included creation of the basic kinds of vegetation, marine life, flying creatures, land animals, and the first human pair. All of this is said to have been done within a period of six “days.” However, the Hebrew word translated “day” has a variety of meanings, including ‘a long time; the time covering an extraordinary event.’ (Old Testament Word Studies, Grand Rapids, Mich.; 1978, W. Wilson, p. 109) The term used allows for the thought that each “day” could have been thousands of years in length.
 
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The Bible does not require us to believe that the heavens and the earth were created a mere 6000 years ago. This idea is based on another, the idea that Adam, that the humans created in chapter two of Genesis were the first. That this is not true is evidenced by references to Cain, and those he feared would kill him when driven into their land. Also, by the fact that Cain, when driven into their land found a wife. Young earthers try to get around this by claiming that Cain married---a sister! For this there is no evidence whatsoever, they are reading it into the text.

Yes, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth," and he did so out of nothing, but the Bible does not say it happened in six twenty four hour days a mere 6000 years ago. Christians would do well to abandon this dogmatic, simplistic interpretation, it causing young people to dismiss the entire Bible.
 
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Dr. Jonathan Sarfati of Creation Ministries International gives scientific evidence for a young earth and also points out various scientific anomalies relating to the old earth model: How old is the earth? - creation.com

Catastrophism and the occurrence of worldwide flood in the past better explains the earth's geology than the uniformitarianism that old earthers posit.
Do you really believe that Noah was contemporary with dinosaurs? Do you really believe that races as diverse as African Pygmies, and Eskimos, etc "evolved" out of Noah's three sons, and in a few thousand years? Look at history. It tells us that the various races existed before the flood of Noah's time.

Stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood interpretation. It's causing young people to dismiss the entire Bible.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Do you really believe that Noah was contemporary with dinosaurs? Do you really believe that races as diverse as African Pygmies, and Eskimos, etc "evolved" out of Noah's three sons, and in a few thousand years? Look at history. It tells us that the various races existed before the flood of Noah's time.

Stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood interpretation. It's causing young people to dismiss the entire Bible.
so, lets follow the secular world. because it is causing people to not believe in God if we take the word of God as truth. But not taking the bible literally will make people come to God (rolls eyes) yeah thats been the problem for along time, wer appease people. and bring them a false God.

ever heard of DNA? it is perfectly not only possible but probably that what you claimed could not happen did happen.

stop listening to secular scientists who want to disprove God (romans 1 among other many passages) and start listening to God. he will not let you down
 
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The earth is approximately 6000 years old. From Adam to Abraham 2000 years, Abraham to Jesus 2000 years, Jesus to now 2000 years, approximately.

What verse in the Holy Bible tells you to sum generations in order to arrive at a date?
 
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and your point? He is talking about the evening and the morning. then he starts a new day.

talk about twisting something.

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Evening to evening is a Hebrew 24hr day.

Thus...evening to morning would be a 12hr Hebrew day, at best.

You're an even younger YEC than you thought...



again your trying to pull things out where we should not be pulling somthing out. Hr did not have to say the seventh day ended, he said he rested on the seventh day periond. he di dnot have to say anything else.
The seventh day was initiated just like the previous six were.

Show me where it has ever ended, like the previous six.




no clue at all. the sabath (which begins and ends) is the clue which shows us your interpretation here is faulty, otherwise, our first sabaath day would never end. it would be a continual sabbath
The Hebrews have numerous Sabbaths.

The seventh day God ceased His creative activity....He never ended the day.

Come on...

There is no closure to day seven.

We are still in day seven.
 

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Evening to evening is a Hebrew 24hr day.

Thus...evening to morning would be a 12hr Hebrew day, at best.


Come on Bowman. You know it doesn't say "from morning TO evening." Yes that would represent a 12 your period. It says "the morning AND the evening," each represented by a 12 hour period completing a 24 hour day.
 
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Evening to evening is a Hebrew 24hr day.

Thus...evening to morning would be a 12hr Hebrew day, at best.

You're an even younger YEC than you thought...





The seventh day was initiated just like the previous six were.

Show me where it has ever ended, like the previous six.




The Hebrews have numerous Sabbaths.

The seventh day God ceased His creative activity....He never ended the day.

Come on...

There is no closure to day seven.

We are still in day seven.
Well alot of fluff here yet again.

He finished out the day, thus he did not have to use the full 24 hour period.

God said, For in the seventh day I rested, Thus shall you rest also. And he called this day a 24 day, since he told us to rest.
 
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If you look at geneology starting with Adam of course, all the way to present time it comes to approximately 6000 years. There is no one verse. Adam lived to be 930 years (Genesis 5:5) - count forward or work backward - 2014. Jesus was born year 4 (no scripture just history) sorry. But take a look at www.bible-history.com/rome/rometimeline_biblical_history.htm