Same sex marriage is an abomination and if you support it you are not a christian

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Marcella

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jack4022 said:
LGBT people simply want to have the same SECULAR rights as other people have to live their lives as they wish.
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If that were true, then they would be satisfied with just acquiring the same legal rights, and not changing the whole established perception of marriage.


And for the record (not necessarily directed at Jack) when someone says they are "for" the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman, it does not mean they hate those that think otherwise. Seems that this idea has been used for a lot of other topics as well and it's rediculous, imo.

Marcella
 
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Marcella said:
If that were true, then they would be satisfied with just acquiring the same legal rights, and not changing the whole established perception of marriage...
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It starts with "equal rights", then comes "special rights" and finally comes power which means they rule over us. Where they set the standards and norms and outlaw anyone who criticize their rule.
 
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In my bible study we were talking about this subject and that old adage came up..."love the sinner, hate the sin". As people this doesn't work. It still causes us to focus too much on that sin that we have to hate. We need to be people focused before we are sin focused. Jesus saw the WOMAN at the well, not the loose samaritan at the well. What was Jesus ministry about? He had compassion! How are we compassionate when we condemn homosexuality. I do believe homosexuality is sin. Don't get me wrong. But I also strive to see people, to see the child of God in people, before I see their sin. Tell me, are you as harsh towards your own sin as you are towards a homosexual. Do you respond the same way to a liar, thief, pedophile, and a tax evader. All are sinners. While the consequence of sin may be different, all sin places the same chasm between us and God. If we are out harrassing homosexuals for their sins, then why aren't we jumping on every other Christian who's sin is just as devastating though perhaps in a different way.
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I always find it funny how it is Christians who are said to be " harrassing homosexuals". But the truth is the church has helped them when nobody would. As a young minister many of us went to the hopsitals when HIV first broke out some of you hear may or may not know how it was I DO. I had family members who were of the first 100 to contract AIDS. The hospitals were like war zones everyone was afriad. Family's would not even go a vist them but the church did... It was the church who help get the vote to not prevent gays from working based on a sexual prefernce. How did the gay community use it? well they got into the schools and made it a norm. Now Christians who should from the beginning held to the Godly standard and His word. Compassionate? I really would like to know what you call going to a hosptial and embressing a gay person who dies in your arms who is asking you to pray for them because they know what is coming... As to liars, thiefs, and pedophiles many have not called this sin in fact it very well maybe why more wickedness is created out of mans heart because they have not delt with sin as it should have from the get go.
 
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Marcella said:
If that were true, then they would be satisfied with just acquiring the same legal rights, and not changing the whole established perception of marriage.


And for the record (not necessarily directed at Jack) when someone says they are "for" the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman, it does not mean they hate those that think otherwise. Seems that this idea has been used for a lot of other topics as well and it's rediculous, imo.

Marcella
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yeah the established percerption which is over 50% of marriages fail? seems like something i want to protect


tribesman said:
It starts with "equal rights", then comes "special rights" and finally comes power which means they rule over us. Where they set the standards and norms and outlaw anyone who criticize their rule.
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Yes because homosexuals would be able to rule for so long, with all that procreation they do...smart
 
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Nautilus said:
...Yes because homosexuals would be able to rule for so long, with all that procreation they do...smart
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Marking words, are we? Has not much to with procreating, as you probably is aware of. Point is that once they're in power they can (will) set the standards and force "gay friendliness" upon society as mandatory LAW. They're in progress with this in many countries in Europe.
 
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oh no not gay friendliness...the horror, it sounds terible, but at least people will be better dressed
 
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Nautilus said:
oh no not gay friendliness...the horror, it sounds terible, but at least people will be better dressed
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Better dressed? Really. That's great. Because we all know that God cares if your clothes match and are the latest fashion.

We are not to support the homosexual lifestyle, but we are commanded to love one another. Just because someone doesn't support someones wordly choices doesn't mean we hate them as a person. As a matter of fact, we love them. We love them so much we want them to turn from their sinful ways so they can have eternal life. You may choose to "accept" their ways because it stirs less drama or whatever, but for a Christian we care about their spirituality. That my dear shows more love than A person accepting their lifestyle as a choice. Homosexuality is an abomination to God. So,please tell me. Whose law is more important? God's or the government?
 
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Point is, bible says it's wrong. We aren't to judge. We are to love. If they take over, they take over. At least we loved them. God says things like this are meant to happen anyway. We aren't supposed to fight wars. We're meant to love. If it means getting ground into the dirt, stamped on, kicked, spit at, hated and bashed, we're still meant to treat everyone with that love. Turn the other cheek really did mean if someone slaps you turn the other cheek and let em slap you twice.

As long as I love people, believe what I believe and don't deny it when someone asks me, I'll be fine when I die. I won't go judging because I'm not perfect. Yet I won't go denying that I think it's wrong, because it is. I'm not going to oppress gay people. Same way I'm not going to oppress anybody. The only thing I have a position against is human judgement by people who think they are God. I don't have the right. Because I am no more than any other man.
 
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God's law is God's law. Most gay people I know don't even own a bible never mind read one. If I start telling them theyre going to Hell and being fierce and vile how long do you think before they stop listening? Love means love. It doesn't have clauses. It doesn't have any selifshness either. Yes I may think gay people are living in sin but how do I tell that person so? Not bluntly, coldly and without any heart. Certainly not like that.
 
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become all things so that you may reach all people. In other words, understand the gay person's point of view. Disregarding anything they say and simply citing scripture is a dead work.

Look to the children. If a child asks you about hitting another kid, do you tell them it's wrong twenty four hours a day? Do you oppose them until they stop doing it, constantly? Or do you make em an ice cream, give em a hug and explain why?

A soft spoken word can break a bone.
 
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When the first man was created, a part of that man was taken to create woman. We are created by God, and man cannot change any of how that was done by what they believe. Then, one of the first principles of how our world operates is told with the words “and the two became one”. Woman and woman and man and man cannot become one, no matter how humans tell about why and how it is done. When man goes against how our world is made there is a backlash, God takes care of it.

I feel very sorry for any one born with a crippling desire to act in a way opposed to God. It is like being born with a body that does not work right.

We are also instructed not to take on the judgment of other people, it is God’s place not ours. We are also to know right from wrong, for we are to be able to judge angels. There is a difference between knowing God’s ways and judging people’s hearts.
 
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Christians are to speak the truth in love. All people carry tendencies to sin. Some lie. Some gossip. Some steal. Some lust. We are all tempted--even Jesus. We all have our demons. If we walk in the Spirit (love God, love others, pray, worship, study God's words) we will not fulfil the lust of the flesh (Gal. 5:16).

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
 
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvv60iv_wjE[/video]

Because I'm that tired of the fighting *sigh*
 
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Amen!! Great speech cameron. The relationship between a man and a woman can never be replaced even though people want to change that, if being married to the opposite sex is not easy, imagine being in a relationship with the same sex. It has been proven that a marriage between a man and a woman is more healthy for the society for the family(kids) and for the nation. The more we dissobey God the more destruction there will be. Because God will not leave sin unpunished. I truly wish and pray that this nation understands that and people may recognize that what the word of God says is true and is there for a reason and that is to bless us, whyle we are heading the wrong way, this nation will keep going down. I leave this to all those who believe that there is nothing wrong with gay marriages. God said to Salomon in 2Cronicles 7.14 if my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will i hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. We need to humble ourselves and pray and seek his face and finally turn from our evil ways, then, he will heal our land, and this country will be like it was before, blessed in abundance. If we don't, we will keep going down as a nation as in the family. God bless you all!!
 
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most gay people aren't really gay they just hate the opposite sex to an unimaginable extent
 
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As much as I understand where your coming from, because I would have once agreed with you. I have much more Grace and Mercy for homosexuals then I once did. Frankly I don't see how what they do is anymore wrong than how we sin behind closed doors. To me homosexuals are waaaayyyy to judged by the church..to the point where they are not going to feel comfortable walking into a church. Gods merciful and has more GRACE than all of us combined... hating what they do is fine.. but accept them ..they need support, love and help not to be shunned. The way God is with me is how I want to be with people.
 
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But I do want to point out that I don't agree with same sex marriage. But I wont reject them as people.
 
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GraceRevelation said:
But I do want to point out that I don't agree with same sex marriage. But I wont reject them as people.
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I have nothing personally against them as people except the immoral/indecent behavior they choose to exhibit. I avoid those heterosexuals also who choose to exhibit immoral behavior. The gay agenda is trying to desensitize the immoral & indecent behavior as the new normal. That I will never accept.
 
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