What makes it impossible for a carnal mind to be subject to the law?

[homwardbound]

Shadows are cast because of light. In darkness there is no shadow. A shadow is cast because something is there. Take the substance away, and there is to shadow. Take the light away and there is no shadow. You cannot have one without the other.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

And the above goes deeper than the sacrifices that were in place, for Christ's sacrificial mercy is to cleanse us from the conscience of sin

Hebrews 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

 

[homwardbound]

in one parents house something might be aloud, then the child goes to another parents house and its not aloud. i think its the same in the Kingdom some things aren't aloud.

All things now are permissible, but not all things are beneficial. so what does that mean? Coming from no longer being under the curse of the flesh and are now alive in Spirit and truth?

 

[homwardbound]

If the man made temple is gone, so are the physical sacrifices and offerings, but the promises of God remain as covenant, from the beginning of time until the end. Has Jesus actually replaced His statues? Or is everything ordain from the beginning until Jesus death been done away with? No.

Revelation 22:12-13 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

John 17:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Is not the past, present, and future a divine plan from the beginning, called salvation?

John 1:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Notice, was, was, and was. past tense to the present tense during the time of John. All that is, and will be is relevant.

Acts 15:15-16 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

No rather Christ is the fulfillment, and was not from the Levitical priesthood, under the Law of Moses

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.





Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

What Laws? The Laws of Love?
[h=3]Hebrews 7:11-12[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? [SUP]12 [/SUP]For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

 

[homwardbound]

God has never broken any covenant He ever established. The wine is the blood, and the covenant is the bottle that holds the content relating to the words in every covenant man has broken. Our Father in heaven holds true to His promises. The carnal man breaks covenant, and despite all the promises we have said we would keep, and didn't, the foreknowledge of God knew from the beginning of time how it all needed to work step by step, until all was fulfilled, restoring mankind into His everlasting Kingdom through Christ Jesus. The carnal mind cannot acknowledge, and agree that Jesus taught the Old Testament, and its contents that are contained in the previous covenants of God.

He came to fulfill the promises of the Old that the prophets prophesied and he did exactly that fulfilled the Law and Prophets
This by his death satisfied and a new covenant took place

Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hebrews 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

So death first was necessary, to bring in the New and out with the old. Then the resurrected Christ for us to be alive in Spirit and truth

 

[homwardbound]

And this scripture is one you don't want to acknowledge in the correct manner. If you claim to not being subject to the law, Paul's words are very convicting, showing all who read what kind of mind that you have.
Romans 8:6-7 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

I agree hardily with the Scripture you present.

Deuteronomy 10:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Colossians 2:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Wondering do you understand the difference in the Law of Liberty and the letter of?

 

[homwardbound]

Grandpa and EG: You both understand so much. You know that it is through the spirit we live, it is the spirit we are to listen to. You know that the spirit leads you to Christ, and Christ leads you to doing right and to forgiveness. But you balk at the written word if that word gives instructions on living, you call it law and both of you are solidly against it.

Do you think, in the old testament, that God wasted time giving law to the Amorites or Hittites? God gave the law to those who were His. You think it is something to be used only for gaining salvation, and that is a misuse of the law. It would be like using water to make clothes dry. Law is to be used for the walk in Christ after salvation, it is no good before that.

You are not hurting yourselves with this preaching against law, you are hurting the church. Your understanding of God and His ways protect you. But a preaching against all that the 119th Psalm says about law is very harmful to those who are babies in Christ. Accepting sin in lives acts as a barrier so God cannot reach them, and by your teaching you speak against getting rid of this barrier to God's grace.

Asking do you not see that in Christ he took care of this barrier you just spoke of, I am under the Law of Liberty, is this the Law you are speaking of in Christ?
Is there a difference in the Law of Liberty and the Letter of the Law?

 

[homwardbound]

It tells us that they took the law the way it was not supposed to be given, and thought it made them right with God. and rejected the only true savior which could save them. which is Christ.

most of the NT was written about this.

yet people still want to go back to law. and do the thing NO ONE CAN POSSIBLE DO.

And they:

[h=3]Hebrews 3:10-12[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

 

[homwardbound]

No one can possibly help themselves an dnot murder, they cannot possibly refrain from being a whoremonger, they cannot possibly keep from taking the Holy name of God in vain.

OK, this is MBFM.

you are right not ever by the flesh, but in God's Spirit of truth it is finished for the believer and is a doer of God's kind of love best described in 1 cor13:4-13, thanks

 

[just-me]

No rather Christ is the fulfillment, and was not from the Levitical priesthood, under the Law of Moses

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.


Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

What Laws? The Laws of Love?
Hebrews 7:11-12

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? [SUP]12 [/SUP]For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

On the mount of transfiguration the change came. Jesus built the new temple, and that's what Hebrews is referring to.

John 2:19 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.


I will quote where the added words covenant were in three verses when the writer was actually referring to the old temple, and talking about the physical priesthood that sacrifices in the temple mad by man.

Hebrews 8:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For if that first "covenant" (it was faulty because it was physical and not spiritual) had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

God didn't make a mistake. It is the flesh that made it faulty. Nevertheless, we are to compare spiritual with spiritual. That's what the old is for, to compare it with the newness in spirit.

Hebrews 8:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In that he saith, A new "covenant," (added word referring to the old temple) he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 9:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Then verily the first "covenant" (Obviously sacrificial ordinances within the temple) had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

Acts 7:48-50 (KJV)
[SUP]48 [/SUP]Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
[SUP]49 [/SUP]Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
[SUP]50 [/SUP]Hath not my hand made all these things?

Isaiah 66:1-2 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

 

[homwardbound]

History i.e. the OT has shown the Israelites in general did not keep the law. In fact, they persecuted the prophets who preached the law. Needed I quote Isaiah and Jeremiah?
Here Stephen said "as your father did, so do you."
They persecuted Yeshua the same way their fathers did to the prophets.

Like I said earlier, I have not read the NT the way you do.
The way you interpreted the NT has been in fashion for the last 50 years or so.
Like I said earlier, it's the great falling away.

And that rich man obeyed all the law from birth on, knew he waws not perfect and asked Jesus what must he do more to be counted as perfect under the Law.


Jesus answered give up all you own, now this man was rich and could not do this too, so he walked away sad. see what the law is that we can't ever be perfect under it, and also under Law if a part of us sins, cut that part off, better ofr part of us to enter heaven than all of us go to hello you think
Reading what Jesus showed us being under Law, our annihilation, and need for Christ the Savior to recieve new life in Spirit from Father via the resurrected Christ. We are to be dead to flesh here and now by belief in God and God's doing not our own ever
Thank you very much

 

[just-me]

Wondering do you understand the difference in the Law of Liberty and the letter of?

Is there a difference between those two terms, when we see both through the spirit of God?

Paul clarifies two things about the truth and purpose of the law, in how it was to be used as a God given tool, and how it was not to be abused, and misrepresented by false teaching, or totally neglected or totally administered in the flesh for self-justification. To neglect it is motivated by not wanting to be convicted by the Spirit. Some people just flat out refuse to see themselves as God sees all of us. God gave us a mirror called the law. If we use that mirror wisely, we have the law of liberty. It’s the same law, not a different one.

James 1:22-25 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:8-13 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

 

[homwardbound]

lol.. Ok keep thinking that.

They did not crucify Christ because they sinned.

They did not think they needed Christ because they had the law

Keep on believing what mankind has believed for 6000, I hope it does you good.

It was Job security that got Jesus to the cross by the religious Pharisees seeing that no one was going to synagogue and they were losing their income. so they set out to kill him very sneakily

 

[homwardbound]

Not trying to say you shouldn't love God by any means but that's not the first commandment. Its to have no other gods before him. Wiccans are an example of a people that can claim to love God but to also have other gods before Him.

No matter, God knows who are his and who are not and the day of revealing is a coming, to be right with God is believing in what Son did for us by the cross where we die to self with Christ's death and come to new life in the Spirit a gift from Father to us all that beleive God and we walk as he walked, led by God's Spirit of Love to all, in Mercy to all
Thanking God daily

 

[homwardbound]

Condemnation of these characters...

Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

And you can read the rest of the chapter. Now according to some, here is one of the dirtiest tricks ever pulled on a person...

Joh 5:8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.
Joh 5:9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.

Joh 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

So Jesus heals the man, then tells him to do something that was absolutely impossible and backed it with a threat that something worse than being crippled for 38 years (verse 5) was going to happen to him? Did Christ set him up?

The power of death is sin and the power of sin is the Law. The perfect Law of God and sinful flesh can't mix, just like oil and water will never mix by itself

 

[peacefulbeliever]

2nd Timothy 3:2-4, “...lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.”

This is a picture of people in the last days. This is a picture of people who go to churches without law. We have Christians who believe in the living by the law but calling the law they live by only the spirit not the law, who are teaching this to others.[ /QUOTE]
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit. Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered form the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. By the law we learn we have sinned and it keeps us in condemnation. That is why we believe that and that is just one verse. There are more but they have been posted time and again.

Nothing of scripture is working to change the mind of these people, as you can see by this post. They use selected scriptures that they make say these things are right, and no scripture telling them differently helps, for they say Christ did away with any scripture that disagrees with their position.

I just want to say that every scripture I have used I have used the whole context or tried to . . . just-me jumps hither and thither all over with single verses so much so that it is very hard to follow exactly what he is saying, although I do try.

They say we are not to listen to scripture that was about anything before Christ, one pointed out that there was plenty of instructions in the NT, why would we include anything written in the Old?

Nope, that hasn't been said - I did not say: Why would we include anything written in the Old? There are plenty instructions in the NT which are derived from the law of the OT. The OT law was written to the children of Israel and FOR the children of Israel - it has served it's purpose. Didn't say to "not listen to scripture that was about anything before Christ" lol - Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime WERE WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. That is what was posted . . .

A very favorite is "we are not under law". It is a direct quote of scripture and they stand firm on their interpretation of that. They say that means that God didn't want us to listen to any law unless it was written after Christ, and they are firm about their interpretation. It is sort of a "don't bother me with the facts" stand. That takes care of all law. Any scripture that says anything different than how they interpret this is waved off as of no account.
They say all scripture is inspired by God, then they add their except this scripture and that scripture with anything God gave Moses as the first to be in the "except" place.

Actually everything that you are saying could be said also of those preaching that we are under/in subjection to the law. "They say that means that God didn't want us to listen to any law unless it was written after Christ" - Under the law there were rules about keeping the Sabbath, what to eat and what not to eat, what is clean and what is unclean - HAS ANY OF THAT CHANGED? Those things were written TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL/ISRAEL, they were written for our learning. Are we part of the Israel or the children of Israel or are we born again of the Spirit and have become part of the body of Christ with Christ as our head?

They say to get rid of anything the word says, just listen to the Holy Spirit. I was in the same room with a drunk once who spoke like that. As he wove and mumbled he told everyone that he just loved everyone. Then he started to cry. Giving any of scripture actual words, they say, is to be tossed aside for it is the spirit only to be listened to. They insist they are just as right about everything as that drunk I watched felt he was right.

Maybe I missed something but I haven't heard anyone say "get rid of anything the word says." Where are you getting all this stuff? And BTW - I have never said I was right - the word of God is right -Romans 8:3,4 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending is own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Hebrew 7:11, 19 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec and not be called after the order of Aaron, 19) For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

They are quick to explain law to anyone who will listen. They pick out any purpose it has that seems to fall in with their purpose of getting rid of the entire idea. If you tell them of any good scripture tells of it they wave that aside, won't even listen. The idea that the law is Holy just doesn't fit in with their picture of law so they get rid of it.

And the crowning point is that the fruits of the spirit trumps and is the law.

Then!! they say that these things are so if you live through Christ. Anything Christ said about it is swept aside as of no count and they quote scripture to prove their point.

So the church is ushering in the last days.

We are the body of Christ, the assembly of believers, the church (ekklesia) - who walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh -

1 Timothy 1:2-9 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord. As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine, Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and a good conscience, and faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

 

[homwardbound]

The First Commandment is to Love God...

Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

The Ten Commandments tell us how to love God...

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Then the last six zero in on how to love our neighbor...

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Notice that working no ill to his neighbor is what you have if you keep the last six Commandments? Doing this fulfills the Law...

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

All of God's Commandments hang on these two Great Commandments. Notice it does not say they are done away or abolished by these two Great Commandments? It says they are suspended by, supported by the two Great Commandments.

That is the Law of liberty (Love) over the Law of death in literal flesh commands thank you for revealing this

 

[homwardbound]

Im pretty sure every time Ive ever read the Ten Commandments the first one has always been the same but thanks for playing.

Through seeing the Love of God to us through Son's final sacrifice we see the Mercy, and love just as deep as we see we are loved
No one can love any deeper than his maker, so the deeper you see the love of God to you, the deeper one will love, it is what it is

 

[homwardbound]

Are the love commandments New Covenant, or Old Covenant? What I read in the Bible is they are both. Any body agree or disagree with that?

Yes all the way from day one of the fall, for God had Mercy on Adam and Eve yet they still had to die, as God tells truth period, and the whole love issue is revealed through Christ for Moses said there is one that comes after him and it is that one Christ we are to listen to
The day is past we are looking back on and are to see the difference in the Flesh and the Spirit of God and by Faith receive this new life in the Spirit of Father through Son
Love takes all, God's type not man's ever

 

[just-me]

Yes all the way from day one of the fall, for God had Mercy on Adam and Eve yet they still had to die, as God tells truth period, and the whole love issue is revealed through Christ for Moses said there is one that comes after him and it is that one Christ we are to listen to
The day is past we are looking back on and are to see the difference in the Flesh and the Spirit of God and by Faith receive this new life in the Spirit of Father through Son
Love takes all, God's type not man's ever

I would say Jesus came with God, not after. Just sayin' Amen brother. Amen

 

[homwardbound]

It is true that it is impossible for the carnal mind to be submissive or subject to the law of God. Not my words, but these are. I am not going to try to make the law subject to my liking. There is hell to pay if I even try.

Romans 8:3-8 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

And the Love of God is the fulfillment but not if we just love those that love us
[h=3]Luke 6:32-40[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]32 [/SUP]For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. [SUP]34 [/SUP]And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. [SUP]35 [/SUP]But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. [SUP]37 [/SUP]Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: [SUP]38 [/SUP]give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? [SUP]40 [/SUP]The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.