Three Days and Three Nights

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john832

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OK, this topic has likely been discussed before but it seems to be splattered through many existing thread now. Let's confine the discussion here to when Christ was crucified, how long He was in the grave, when He was resurrected and does it matter.
 
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OK, this topic has likely been discussed before but it seems to be splattered through many existing thread now. Let's confine the discussion here to when Christ was crucified, how long He was in the grave, when He was resurrected and does it matter.
Genesis 1:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

First off the evening comes before the morning, and the evening is the beginning of the next day in Biblical terms.

Jonah 1:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Matthew 12:40 (KJV)
[SUP]40 [/SUP]For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

In both Matthew and Jonah, the days come before the nights. I don't think it makes a difference, but then again it may. Might be that Jonah was thrown overboard before nightfall, and the fish swallowed him up after dark.

It would be uncanny for him to be thrown overboard on the 14[SUP]th[/SUP], and swallowed on the 15[SUP]th[/SUP]. I couldn’t find anything that would prove or disprove that.
 
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OK, this topic has likely been discussed before but it seems to be splattered through many existing thread now. Let's confine the discussion here to when Christ was crucified, how long He was in the grave, when He was resurrected and does it matter.
It matters very much.
"An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Mt 12:40)
It matters for the Thomas' of the world, who live by sight and won't believe without a sign.

It matters because by this one sign we know He is the true Messiah.

It matters because we see what lengths some will go to, to pervert everything we are told in the Word. The "Friday night till Sunday morning crowd, there is a new math there that does not compute, so they come up with ridiculous answers.
 

john832

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In both Matthew and Jonah, the days come before the nights.
In practice, we can't say whether the day came before the night for Jonah, but in Christ's case we can. He was entombed JUST before sunset. The night came first, then the day. This does matter a great deal because at the end of the 72 hours, we have the resurrection. Christ was resurrected JUST before sunset on Saturday afternoon, not in the morning. A morning resurrection would be the case if the day portion came first.
 
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It matters very much.
"An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Mt 12:40)
It matters for the Thomas' of the world, who live by sight and won't believe without a sign.

It matters because by this one sign we know He is the true Messiah.

It matters because we see what lengths some will go to, to pervert everything we are told in the Word. The "Friday night till Sunday morning crowd, there is a new math there that does not compute, so they come up with ridiculous answers.
I am not much for the (Good Friday) thing myself! Did he or did he not rise early the first day of the week? Back track three days and three nights and it does not match the good Friday concept!
 
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OK, this topic has likely been discussed before but it seems to be splattered through many existing thread now. Let's confine the discussion here to when Christ was crucified, how long He was in the grave, when He was resurrected and does it matter.
I was a teacher of Friday to Sunday for a long while until I came to learn mathematics. I believe it matters because if I knew I could brag about this to my fellow believers including Dcontroversal who said it does not matter somewhere else ;)
 
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I believe the scriptures as it says three days and three nights just as Jonah was in the belly of the whale three days and three nights.

"For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

- Matthew 12:40 NASB​
 
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I was a teacher of Friday to Sunday for a long while until I came to learn mathematics. I believe it matters because if I knew I could brag about this to my fellow believers including Dcontroversal who said it does not matter somewhere else ;)
When did I say it didn't matter mi amigo? :)
 

john832

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I am not much for the (Good Friday) thing myself! Did he or did he not rise early the first day of the week? Back track three days and three nights and it does not match the good Friday concept!
No, He did not, read the accounts carefully and you find in every case when they got to the tomb before daylight, He was already gone. The resurrection occurred just before sunset on Saturday afternoon, else Christ lied...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
 

john832

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I am not much for the (Good Friday) thing myself! Did he or did he not rise early the first day of the week? Back track three days and three nights and it does not match the good Friday concept!
If you back track three days and three nights from Sunday morning, that puts Him being buried at sunup on Thursday morning. That dog don't hunt.
 
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sunset to sunset = 1 day sunset the 14th of Nisan to sunset 15th of Nisan Jesus had to be crucified corresponding to between evenings in correspondence with the slaughtering of the lamb. He had to be dead and buried before Passover (do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning) - the 15th because Passover was a High holy day. our Wednesday into Thursday or to make it easier 6:00pm - 6:00pm Jesus died the ninth hour, 3:00pm and had to be buried by sunset.
2nd - Sunset 15th Nisan - Sunset 16th Nisan (our Thursday into Friday)
3rd - Sunset 16th Nisan - Sunset 17th Nisan (our Friday into Saturday) so he rose sometime after sunset Saturday = 72 hours = 3 days and 3 nights

If the Feast of Passover is a foreshadowing of the crucifixion of our Lord then He would have to be crucified at the same time as the lamb was slaughtered and that had to be before midnight because that is when the destroyer was to destroy the firstborn in Egypt - Exodus 12:23,29
 
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I believe the scriptures as it says three days and three nights just as Jonah was in the belly of the whale three days and three nights.

"For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

- Matthew 12:40 NASB​
Well I do believe it covered literally 72 hours, possibly Wednesday evening to Sunday morning. Also shouldn't say whale, but a great fish lol
 
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No, He did not, read the accounts carefully and you find in every case when they got to the tomb before daylight, He was already gone. The resurrection occurred just before sunset on Saturday afternoon, else Christ lied...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
I have read and just re-read all accounts and....

1. There is not one verse that states that he resurrected in the evening before sunset.
2. He (is) risen as opposed to he arose or (was risen) points to present immediate context.
3. All three accounts show a morning resurrection after a third night and matches Jesus' and Jonah's account of three days and three nights in the whale's belly/ground
4. The order you gave in Jonah is contrary to your order....

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly day/night day/night day/night-->resurrection

Your order...
Night/day night/day night/day-->resurrection
 
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chubbena

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When did I say it didn't matter mi amigo? :)
Somewhere....may be I dreamt that up....sorry I searched your posts I couldn't find it but I thought you said half a day doesn't matter....oh no the age thing is catching up on me.
 
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sunset to sunset = 1 day sunset the 14th of Nisan to sunset 15th of Nisan Jesus had to be crucified corresponding to between evenings in correspondence with the slaughtering of the lamb. He had to be dead and buried before Passover (do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning) - the 15th because Passover was a High holy day. our Wednesday into Thursday or to make it easier 6:00pm - 6:00pm Jesus died the ninth hour, 3:00pm and had to be buried by sunset.
2nd - Sunset 15th Nisan - Sunset 16th Nisan (our Thursday into Friday)
3rd - Sunset 16th Nisan - Sunset 17th Nisan (our Friday into Saturday) so he rose sometime after sunset Saturday = 72 hours = 3 days and 3 nights

If the Feast of Passover is a foreshadowing of the crucifixion of our Lord then He would have to be crucified at the same time as the lamb was slaughtered and that had to be before midnight because that is when the destroyer was to destroy the firstborn in Egypt - Exodus 12:23,29
I believe you're right on target. I believe also that unleavened bread in the first month must correlate with Tabernacles on the seventh month.

Atonement 7th month, 10th day is the same as the taking of the lamb 1st month 10th day, it is slaughtered and prepared on the 14th of the 1st month, and that is the final day, the 14th, of Atonement in the 7th month. The 15th is the first day of unleavened bread in the first month, and the first day of the feast of Tabernacles in the 7th month.

Matthew 27:57-60 (KJV)
[SUP]57 [/SUP]When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:
[SUP]58 [/SUP]He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered.
[SUP]59 [/SUP]And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
[SUP]60 [/SUP]And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

Now concerning the relationship of the resurrection 3 days counting the Passover we have to read Exodus 15:22-26 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea, and they went out into the wilderness of Shur; and they went three days in the wilderness, and found no water.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the people murmured against Moses, saying, What shall we drink?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And he cried unto the LORD; and the LORD shewed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet: there he made for them a statute and an ordinance, and there he proved them,
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.

The Word of God says it best so I will just quote John 4:7, 11-14 to the end of this chapter. “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink. The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.”
 
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john832

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I have read and just re-read all accounts and....

1. There is not one verse that states that he resurrected in the evening before sunset.
2. He (is) risen as opposed to he arose or (was risen) points to present immediate context.
3. All three accounts show a morning resurrection after a third night and matches Jesus' and Jonah's account of three days and three nights in the whale's belly/ground
4. The order you gave in Jonah is contrary to your order....

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly day/night day/night day/night-->resurrection

Your order...
Night/day night/day night/day-->resurrection
OK, count with me from just before sunset, three days and three nights and how do you get a morning resurrection?

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

Says nothing about rising, says she ran to Peter and told him that Christ was gone.

Luk 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
Luk 24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
Luk 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

We already saw in John's account it was still dark.

Mar 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Mar 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Mar 16:3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
Mar 16:4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
Mar 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Again, already gone. The angel tells them this.

Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

What did He say?

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

There is no scripture that say He arose on Sunday morning.

Now count from Sunday morning backwards three days and three nights and tell me what time of day He would have been buried for a Sunday morning resurrection? Early Thursday morning? That does not fit the scripture. He was buried just before sunset. Three days and three nights later would have been just before sunset.

Passover was on Wednesday, April 25, 31AD. He was buried just before sunset on Wednesday and arose three days and three nights (72 hours) later. I'll let you do the math.
 
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Somewhere....may be I dreamt that up....sorry I searched your posts I couldn't find it but I thought you said half a day doesn't matter....oh no the age thing is catching up on me.
HAHA I don't remember saying that......and if it is age..no biggie mi amigo!
 

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Mat 12:40


For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

I believe what has been preserved as teaching from the Master. As for any descrepancy of the days according to the man-made sabbath and not being able to count, well, I can live with the fact that any error is on the part of man not trusting the origin of the faith of Abraham.

Jesus, Yeshua, said it, and I believe Him........
 
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chubbena

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HAHA I don't remember saying that......and if it is age..no biggie mi amigo!
So sorry again I false witnessed, or is it that you're always on my mind brother? I should have said Homwardbound but I'm just teasting him here...
Sorry John832, way off topic here...
 
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OK, count with me from just before sunset, three days and three nights and how do you get a morning resurrection?

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

Says nothing about rising, says she ran to Peter and told him that Christ was gone.

Luk 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
Luk 24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
Luk 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

We already saw in John's account it was still dark.

Mar 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Mar 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Mar 16:3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
Mar 16:4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
Mar 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Again, already gone. The angel tells them this.

Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

What did He say?

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

There is no scripture that say He arose on Sunday morning.

Now count from Sunday morning backwards three days and three nights and tell me what time of day He would have been buried for a Sunday morning resurrection? Early Thursday morning? That does not fit the scripture. He was buried just before sunset. Three days and three nights later would have been just before sunset.

Passover was on Wednesday, April 25, 31AD. He was buried just before sunset on Wednesday and arose three days and three nights (72 hours) later. I'll let you do the math.

If I go by your logic and date of the Passover I get the following....

Matthew 26 Jesus and disciples eat the Passover, he instructs them and they go to the mount of Olives...

Tuesday 24th, 31 A.D. Jesus and Disciples eat Passover and go to Mount of Olives
Jesus Gets taken later in the early morning hours of Wednesday Night/Thurs Morning
Held/beaten/tried/crucified/gives up Ghost and is taken down and prepared by Joseph Laid in tomb on Wednesday Evening

Wednesday evening-->Thursday Evening
Thursday Evening --> Friday Evening
Friday Evening -->Saturday Evening
First day of week as it begins to dawn the women see the angels and Jesus not there.

Unlike a lot of people I will bend to truth and I can see your point......my original point still stands as (good Friday) means exactly what in the grand scheme of a Wednesday evening burial to a Saturday Evening Resurrection?