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By this it is done in you as it is in Christ done
1 John 3:3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
[h=3]1 John 3:3[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
1 John 3:3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
[h=3]1 John 3:3[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
As I grow in maturity, thanking father for answering my prayer to do so, yes i die to all things that are of flesh persecution, as I see you doing as well, hallelujah Brother
Galatians 4:29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now.
Galatians 4:29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now.
There are those that take Father's unconditional Love for granted, oh yes, been one in the past and I watch for not to be again, and not of self effort, rather in Faith to the living God to whom I understand this verse from the disciple that wrote this part of the word from God
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Not always easy to see how the two are one, in love is waht it has always boiled down to, to have Mercy and love all as God does, time to believe and stay steadfast in this, loving all, past just those that love us back, and do us wrong or even have, you think?
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Not always easy to see how the two are one, in love is waht it has always boiled down to, to have Mercy and love all as God does, time to believe and stay steadfast in this, loving all, past just those that love us back, and do us wrong or even have, you think?
And John said this:
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Acts 1:5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
And there is only one Baptism, which you are not seeing and that is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit of truth from Father that is a gift from Father through Son's finished work for you personally, leaving you or no one with any boasting of the self or others besides God alone
Romans 3:27 [ Boasting Excluded ] Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
Will any law save? If the law could save any law, then Christ's sacrifice is in vain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[h=3]Hebrews 7:11[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Need for a New Priesthood[/h][SUP]11 [/SUP]Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Acts 1:5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
And there is only one Baptism, which you are not seeing and that is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit of truth from Father that is a gift from Father through Son's finished work for you personally, leaving you or no one with any boasting of the self or others besides God alone
Romans 3:27 [ Boasting Excluded ] Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
Will any law save? If the law could save any law, then Christ's sacrifice is in vain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[h=3]Hebrews 7:11[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Need for a New Priesthood[/h][SUP]11 [/SUP]Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
This way you just put this is one's flesh has to obey to be right with God and no flesh pleases God outside of Christ's ever
So you are required by this way you have posted it, you must be perfect, how are you doing with that?
Can you hold Ten apples under water at the same time using just your two hands is it possible?
The same is with the Ten Laws, where is not justified by works of the flesh ever
Praying for you to come to the end 9of the energy of your own flesh, and see the truth from Father in Spirit and truth
So you are required by this way you have posted it, you must be perfect, how are you doing with that?
Can you hold Ten apples under water at the same time using just your two hands is it possible?
The same is with the Ten Laws, where is not justified by works of the flesh ever
Praying for you to come to the end 9of the energy of your own flesh, and see the truth from Father in Spirit and truth
Good ?
The man that says he has Faith is you, trying to be what you can't ever be, since you are in unredeemed flesh, and this is perfect in all you do. Are you tired yet of doing the same thing over and over of what you keep wishing not to do and do anyway. Going to Father and asking for more and more forgiveness as this world's Churches teach falsely, and stirs up the unredeemed to be perfect, which Christ showed to all in his day that it is impossible for mankind to be perfect under law. Any law, Flesh is weak and needs to God to lead not help, Lead
Faith in the finished works is; God in the lead, the "I" is dead to the doing of Laws any law, and then God leads and we are doers of the word past hearers
Thank You for asking; praying for us to see past the arrogant flesh self we all have in this world, and unless we die to self with Christ at Christ's death, we can't see the new life until we agree to di9e to self
1 Corinthians 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
By this die daily I, you and all who see this to do this are:
Galatians 2:20
I am crucifiedwithChrist: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
You see that you, the "I" is dead and now held alive by God. You want to be a doer as you claimed, then Father who knows you will reveal this to you, and the light will shine through you, and there is no stopping the light whom is Christ who went to the cross for you, before you were ever born
The man that says he has Faith is you, trying to be what you can't ever be, since you are in unredeemed flesh, and this is perfect in all you do. Are you tired yet of doing the same thing over and over of what you keep wishing not to do and do anyway. Going to Father and asking for more and more forgiveness as this world's Churches teach falsely, and stirs up the unredeemed to be perfect, which Christ showed to all in his day that it is impossible for mankind to be perfect under law. Any law, Flesh is weak and needs to God to lead not help, Lead
Faith in the finished works is; God in the lead, the "I" is dead to the doing of Laws any law, and then God leads and we are doers of the word past hearers
Thank You for asking; praying for us to see past the arrogant flesh self we all have in this world, and unless we die to self with Christ at Christ's death, we can't see the new life until we agree to di9e to self
1 Corinthians 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
By this die daily I, you and all who see this to do this are:
Galatians 2:20
I am crucifiedwithChrist: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
You see that you, the "I" is dead and now held alive by God. You want to be a doer as you claimed, then Father who knows you will reveal this to you, and the light will shine through you, and there is no stopping the light whom is Christ who went to the cross for you, before you were ever born
Mercy from God to all, is key to all that come to belief, yet not all see through without first being broke down to nothing, and then one cries out for Mercy as in:
[h=3]Luke 18:9-14[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: [SUP]10 [/SUP]Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
[h=3]Luke 18:9-14[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: [SUP]10 [/SUP]Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
No verse promises any one today baptism with the Holy Spirit.
---no verse says baptism with the Holy Spirit is commanded to anyone today.
---no verse says baptism with the Holy Spirit saves/remits sins
---no verse says baptism with the Holy Spirit is to be taught as commanded by Christ
---no verse says baptism with the Holy Spirit makes one a disciple
---no verse says baptism with the Holy Spirit lasts till the end of time.
Heb 11:8,17 was not Abraham in his flesh when he obeyed God? He would not have been justified had he not obeyed God.
God is not expecting perfection in my obedience, that is why God gave Christians an avenue of repentance and confessing sins, 1 Jn 1:7-9.
Are you suggesting Jews could ignore, avoid not keep the 10 commandments given them, yet still expect to be justified by God anyway?
There is a big effort by some on this forum to find away to get themselves justified while they remain in disobedience to God's will.
Love the post, Doug, there is meaning in it that I see, and there are those that take God's Mercy, grace through Son, Chirst for granted and use this as an escape goat, hiding their sins behind closed doors and craftily, doind as mankind did in the day of Noah, where God regretted making man, seeing the evil thaey did against each other and not helping one another if they did not belong to their group, And so God flooded the world to knock out the choice of one not trusting God, the creator of all mankind, and saved Noah and Noah's family, why?
Noah was upright, Noah eschewed evil and loved all, motive was to always help and not excuse or accuse another, always tried to get others to stand up in Love to all.
So we all have been saved by Noah's trust to God
And yet the world is in the same place, but using excuses to their behavior as right against another as wrong, Wars and rumors of wars are still going on to this day
I am so elated you and I have come to terms to not argue and hear each other and not rebuke each other, for you have helped me in learning truth over error as many here have
Thank you, and all credit of this goes to God, the creator of all, us being nothing more that the creation in thanks to God through Son
Noah was upright, Noah eschewed evil and loved all, motive was to always help and not excuse or accuse another, always tried to get others to stand up in Love to all.
So we all have been saved by Noah's trust to God
And yet the world is in the same place, but using excuses to their behavior as right against another as wrong, Wars and rumors of wars are still going on to this day
I am so elated you and I have come to terms to not argue and hear each other and not rebuke each other, for you have helped me in learning truth over error as many here have
Thank you, and all credit of this goes to God, the creator of all, us being nothing more that the creation in thanks to God through Son
[h=3]Romans 6:1-4[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
6 Well then, shall we keep on sinning so that God can keep on showing us more and more kindness and forgiveness?
[SUP]2-3 [/SUP]Of course not! Should we keep on sinning when we don’t have to? For sin’s power over us was broken when we became Christians and were baptized to become a part of Jesus Christ; through his death the power of your sinful nature was shattered. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Your old sin-loving nature was buried with him by baptism when he died; and when God the Father, with glorious power, brought him back to life again, you were given his wonderful new life to enjoy.
The Baptism Brother does not say water, nor of the Spirit, and yet since we are to be baptized by the Spirit as a gift from Father and not of works, and are baptized in Christ by his death, see verse 4 below. It is spirit baptism as John spoke of, sorry you are not seeing this if God willing you will.
Romans 6:4 Your old sin-loving nature was buried with him by baptism when he died; and when God the Father, with glorious power, brought him back to life again, you were given his wonderful new life to enjoy.
[h=3]Romans 6:5[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For you have become a part of him, and so you died with him, so to speak, when he died; and now you share his new life and shall rise as he did.
[h=3]Romans 6:6[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Your old evil desires were nailed to the cross with him; that part of you that loves to sin was crushed and fatally wounded, so that your sin-loving body is no longer under sin’s control, no longer needs to be a slave to sin;
[h=3]Romans 6:7[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]for when you are deadened to sin you are freed from all its allure and its power over you.
[h=3]Romans 6:8[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And since your old sin-loving nature “died” with Christ, we know that you will share his new life.
[h=3]Romans 6:9[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Christ rose from the dead and will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him.
[h=3]Romans 6:10
[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He died once for all to end sin’s power, but now he lives forever in unbroken fellowship with God.
[h=3]Romans 6:11[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]So look upon your old sin nature as dead and unresponsive to sin, and instead be alive to God, alert to him, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So either one believes through the death, burial and resurrected Christ they are saved, no doubts or they stumble about and live like a refugee, riding the fence as iot seems to me this is where you are at, trying to not sin, wanting to not sin and yet sin anyway, why is this Brother?
Do you not completely believe, and have to do something or God will get you
You can beleive anything you want to beleive, but you do not have to live like a refugee, love you as deep as God
6 Well then, shall we keep on sinning so that God can keep on showing us more and more kindness and forgiveness?
[SUP]2-3 [/SUP]Of course not! Should we keep on sinning when we don’t have to? For sin’s power over us was broken when we became Christians and were baptized to become a part of Jesus Christ; through his death the power of your sinful nature was shattered. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Your old sin-loving nature was buried with him by baptism when he died; and when God the Father, with glorious power, brought him back to life again, you were given his wonderful new life to enjoy.
The Baptism Brother does not say water, nor of the Spirit, and yet since we are to be baptized by the Spirit as a gift from Father and not of works, and are baptized in Christ by his death, see verse 4 below. It is spirit baptism as John spoke of, sorry you are not seeing this if God willing you will.
Romans 6:4 Your old sin-loving nature was buried with him by baptism when he died; and when God the Father, with glorious power, brought him back to life again, you were given his wonderful new life to enjoy.
[h=3]Romans 6:5[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For you have become a part of him, and so you died with him, so to speak, when he died; and now you share his new life and shall rise as he did.
[h=3]Romans 6:6[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Your old evil desires were nailed to the cross with him; that part of you that loves to sin was crushed and fatally wounded, so that your sin-loving body is no longer under sin’s control, no longer needs to be a slave to sin;
[h=3]Romans 6:7[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]for when you are deadened to sin you are freed from all its allure and its power over you.
[h=3]Romans 6:8[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And since your old sin-loving nature “died” with Christ, we know that you will share his new life.
[h=3]Romans 6:9[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Christ rose from the dead and will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him.
[h=3]Romans 6:10
[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He died once for all to end sin’s power, but now he lives forever in unbroken fellowship with God.
[h=3]Romans 6:11[/h]Living Bible (TLB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]So look upon your old sin nature as dead and unresponsive to sin, and instead be alive to God, alert to him, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So either one believes through the death, burial and resurrected Christ they are saved, no doubts or they stumble about and live like a refugee, riding the fence as iot seems to me this is where you are at, trying to not sin, wanting to not sin and yet sin anyway, why is this Brother?
Do you not completely believe, and have to do something or God will get you
You can beleive anything you want to beleive, but you do not have to live like a refugee, love you as deep as God
Unfortunately your view is in the flesh of mankind, not in the Spirit of truth
And no way do I make void the law at all, rather uphold it's purity and have been taught when it flows through me my flesh it keeps me in sin, (not the Law itself) the fact that we all are born in unredeemed flesh and this flesh need to be reckoned dead at the cross of Christ so that we might see the new life in Spirit and truth
Love you
And no way do I make void the law at all, rather uphold it's purity and have been taught when it flows through me my flesh it keeps me in sin, (not the Law itself) the fact that we all are born in unredeemed flesh and this flesh need to be reckoned dead at the cross of Christ so that we might see the new life in Spirit and truth
Love you
Faith in the creator of all, known today Father by Son, who went to the cross for us all to redeem us not in Flesh carnal nature, no not all there.
Rather in Spirit and truth, Brother why?
Because Father, can only be worshiped in:
[h=3]John 4:23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him
[h=3]John 4:24[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
death of Christ at the cross, the last shed blood for any and all sin, one's conscience by this is to be purged from sin
And if one's conscience is not purged as this world has done a great job in; not allowing this purging to be done, and thus one and all that believe this way are still stuck in sin, and excuse it as you just did, using Christ as their scape goat, not seeing and trusting God completely as Christ the son did and showed us to do, to be able to walk as he walked in total dependence on Father. Christ did none of the works, Father did them all through him
So, believe, receive and taker on, put on Christ and rest in him forever, maybe quit living like a refugee
Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Rather in Spirit and truth, Brother why?
Because Father, can only be worshiped in:
[h=3]John 4:23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him
[h=3]John 4:24[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
death of Christ at the cross, the last shed blood for any and all sin, one's conscience by this is to be purged from sin
And if one's conscience is not purged as this world has done a great job in; not allowing this purging to be done, and thus one and all that believe this way are still stuck in sin, and excuse it as you just did, using Christ as their scape goat, not seeing and trusting God completely as Christ the son did and showed us to do, to be able to walk as he walked in total dependence on Father. Christ did none of the works, Father did them all through him
So, believe, receive and taker on, put on Christ and rest in him forever, maybe quit living like a refugee
Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.