The sabbath cults - making an idol of the sabbath.

[lookuptoseeJesus]

The Cunday cults make an idol of Sunday and it isnt even in the bible

a cult is FOLLOWING MAN

Keeping sunday is following MAN since it is not in the Bible AT ALL ANYWAHERE

why not keep Sabbath and being OBEDIENCE?

Obedience is REQ
UIRED for heaven no matter what the once saved always saved nicolaitians say.

 

[JaumeJ]

When someone does what the Lord wants him to do, he is an idolator. While if another follows the dogmas dreamed up by fleshy minds, he is a believer in good standing. Yes, there is a spirit of delusion upon the earth causing those who loved evil to believe lies. This, of course does not apply to those who are ignorant of what they are doing, so please do not come back with some kind of accusation that I judge others to condemnation. This too would be a lie.

 

[TaylorTG]

The Cunday cults make an idol of Sunday and it isn't even in the bible

a cult is FOLLOWING MAN

Keeping sunday is following MAN since it is not in the Bible AT ALL ANYWHERE

why not keep Sabbath and being OBEDIENCE?

Obedience is REQ
UIRED for heaven no matter what the once saved always saved nicolaitians say.

Honoring God on Sunday is not listed in the ten commandments. Christians who celebrate Sunday mass celebrate the day when Christ rose from the dead.



The first page of this thread contains posts declaring that cults legalized 2 days of the week for holy rest. Ah, the craziness of human beings. Celebrating mass on Sunday does not bind under sin.

 

[lookuptoseeJesus]

I love these threads!
It brings people who never read their Bibles and just listen to provfessional hypnotist Jesuits who run their church, and gather them to see what God really says.

Homework for you Bible readers.
(those who do not read and study, it wont matter what you do, you WILL take the mark of the beast)

Look up all the Bible verses on OBEDIENCE to Gods word
now
look up and see if SABBATH is in the word of God

then find me one text that says we should not longer keep the Sabbath but we should worship on sunday
and then show me the text that says God will bless those who keep the changed day.

My REVELATION Book tells me
those who keep the IMAGE of the beast (image is a man made rule-Sunday)
will be thrown into the lke of fire.
better study...

it aint happening

so
basically

the choice is clear

doing what GODS WORD SAYS and says the Sabbath wil be kept for ETERNITY in the new earth

or keeping a day the POPE made
9he admits it)
in 321 ad

no one but pagan Roman Babylon sun worshippers worshipped on the day of the sun before 321
after 321 Constantine the demon possessed king
passed a law to have the WORLD worship on sunday and that aall who J
UDAIZE and follow the BIBLE INSTEAD should be killed.

that is where sunday came from

 

[lookuptoseeJesus]

WE already know the Hirelings who make a fortune on millions who come to church every sunday are going to get ticked off, cause they have not once scriptural word of authority for keeping sunday (AND THEY KNOW IT FULL WELL) and will appeal to the right hand of civil power and pass another unday LAW
ACtually satan himself will dexcend as an angel of light claiming he is JEsus

that is why JESUS SAID in the last tdays, if there is a Jesus walking around claiming to be JESUS
DON'T GO THERE!


Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


if we all dont see it, around the world
it isnt Jesus!

it is satan!
anyway Satan acting like Jesus will say those who do not keep sunday are BLASPHEMING GOD and should be killed

wait and see
God will bring this very thread to your remembrance

there will be a world wide movement to kill all Sabbath keepers because they are daring to blaspheme GOD who THEY SAY changed Sabbath to sunday

wait and see

when it happens

look at the fake christ's hands

satan is NOT ALLOWED to have the scars of Jesus on his hand and feet and forhead

if you dont see the scars
RUN

actually you can run before that for JEsus promised to not touch the ground, the FAKE JESUS touches the ground

a

SECRET FACT:

the real JEsus will not touch the ground

1 Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



notice?

he does NOT walk on the earth
the one who walks on the earth is satan looking like JEsus
antichrist....

 

[lookuptoseeJesus]

2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;


Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

armageddon is a war code that tells the nations to KILL ALL THE JEWS and all those who keep the Sabbath...

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


it is SO EASY!

if they pass a law that if you do NOT worship a certain way
or you will be killed....
that is most definitely a false religion (Just like arabs... they kill also those whom with they disagree, that is so wrong...)



it is so easy

obvious;y it is a mjority world acclaimed religion!

right?
Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
Luke 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

do not kill for any reason....

 

[chubbena]

If remembering the Sabbath is not works of the Law then why are you doing it? Obedience, right? That's works of the law... Your misunderstanding as to what the law says and how it is kept...

Why try to speak in lawyer-ese? Why not just plainly speak the truth. You desire to work at the law and for everyone else to work at the law as well. You are mostly miffed at the people who are trying to work at the law, like you, but are doing it on the wrong day. I find that funnier than I probably should...

Otherwise, why the distinction of the saturday sabbath rather than any other day of the week sabbath? You see? I don't care what day or how many days off you want to take. I just take exception to judaizers trying to place christians back under the law and giving them reasons why it is more "godly" than the liberty that is in Christ.

Didn't we all touch on this subject many many times in the past? I, like some others, use my freedom in Christ to remember the Sabbath while you, like some others, use your freedom to do whatever you want. I don't accuse you being law breakers but you accuse me and some others of that? Do you always accuse of others who believe differently from you? Do you consider your understanding of the Creator is complete?

 

[john832]

Honoring God on Sunday is not listed in the ten commandments. Christians who celebrate Sunday mass celebrate the day when Christ rose from the dead.

Sounds good in print (ISLAGIATT) but there are three minor problems...

1) Christ was not raised from the dead on Sunday.

2) The Bible NOWHERE suggests Sunday worship.

3) The New Testament shows no examples of sunday worship.

If you check into history, you find that you can thank Constantine and the Council of Nicea for legislating Sunday worship.

 

[JesusLives]

Revelation 12:17

Amplified Bible (AMP)


[SUP]17 [/SUP]So then the dragon was furious (enraged) at the woman, and he went away to wage war on the remainder of her descendants—[on those who habitually] obey God’s commandments and who have the testimony (faith) of Jesus Christ [and adhere to it and [SUP][a][/SUP]bear witness to Him].

Revelation 14:12

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[SUP]12 [/SUP]Here [comes in a call for] the steadfastness of the saints [the patience, the endurance of the people of God], those who [habitually] keep God’s commandments and [their] faith in Jesus.

Why is it that Revelation continually calls for God's people to keep the commandments? Last time I checked there are still 10 of them not 9. It says to keep the commandments and that means obey to you and me and have the faith of/in Jesus. Faith without works is dead and we can only do the works when the Holy Spirit lives in our hearts helping us to will and to obey God and will continue to complete the work He began in us until the end.

I am not legalistically trying to keep the commandments. The Holy Spirit enables me to do so and Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. Any questions?

Observing the Sabbath is not an idol it is showing love for God and obeying His request for us to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.

 

[chubbena]

God have mercy on you for falsely asserting that the religious practice of antiquated ceremonial laws of the old covenant are still part of God's "government" when Jesus Christ fulfilled them and ushered in a new covenant. The old covenant is obsolete, and the new covenant has been established.

God have mercy on you if you have been led astray by a heretical false teacher and prophet such as Ellen G. White and are leading others into the error.

God have mercy on you for calling those who correctly handle the word of truth (God's Word) "sick and twisted."

Read: The Old Covenant and the Law of Moses | Grace Communion International

I'm sorry if you grew up in a sabbatarian cult or were led astray into one but it's your choice to continue in that error after being corrected.

May be doing a google search would help one realize more than one church / denomination observe the Sabbath. That's not even counting the home churches on earth.
Of course the majority is always right, right?

 

[john832]

Revelation 12:17

Amplified Bible (AMP)


[SUP]17 [/SUP]So then the dragon was furious (enraged) at the woman, and he went away to wage war on the remainder of her descendants—[on those who habitually] obey God’s commandments and who have the testimony (faith) of Jesus Christ [and adhere to it and [SUP][a][/SUP]bear witness to Him].

Revelation 14:12

Amplified Bible (AMP)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Here [comes in a call for] the steadfastness of the saints [the patience, the endurance of the people of God], those who [habitually] keep God’s commandments and [their] faith in Jesus.

Why is it that Revelation continually calls for God's people to keep the commandments? Last time I checked there are still 10 of them not 9. It says to keep the commandments and that means obey to you and me and have the faith of/in Jesus. Faith without works is dead and we can only do the works when the Holy Spirit lives in our hearts helping us to will and to obey God and will continue to complete the work He began in us until the end.

I am not legalistically trying to keep the commandments. The Holy Spirit enables me to do so and Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. Any questions?

Observing the Sabbath is not an idol it is showing love for God and obeying His request for us to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.

Many people think love is a sticky, syrupy, emotional felling. Real love is an action. How do we really love God? He tells us how...

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Paul agrees...

1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. -NKJV

John, the Apostle of love, says...

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

 

[MsSpratt]

Perhaps you can enlighten us as to what the Law says?

cursed is everyone who does not continue to do all things written in the law.
that includes trips to Jerusalem, sacrificing animals, the whole thing.

sorry you're the expert if you don't know what it says, you might want to turn to Christ and have that veil removed.
goodnight

 

[ThomistColin]

Sounds good in print (ISLAGIATT) but there are three minor problems...

1) Christ was not raised from the dead on Sunday.

2) The Bible NOWHERE suggests Sunday worship.

3) The New Testament shows no examples of sunday worship.

If you check into history, you find that you can thank Constantine and the Council of Nicea for legislating Sunday worship.

Your about 170 years off. We know Christians in the year 155 worshipped on a Sunday. Read Justin Martyr. Also, scripture does say He was raised on a Sunday. It said on the first day of the week. That's Sunday.

 

[MsSpratt]

You throw Ellen White at anyone who endeavors to keep holy the 7th day, as if it is a great insult to them. I am not a follower of Ellen White, nor do I know much about her except she is dead now. There is only one whom I follow, and that is the Son of the living Almighty, who said to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. Those who profess to know more than my Creator I consider a "holier than thou" type attitude of which I take no part in.

So trendy today are the "grace only" crowd who say the commandments are abolished when scripture states plainly they are not. Also trendy today are parents who tell their children, "take precautions when you fornicate, because we all know it is impossible to remain pure." What a load of hogwash! All things are possible with Messiah in us.

We can see where this "it is impossible to keep from sinning" attitude has taken a deceived people and a deceived by Satan world, that God's commandments are done away with indeed. ..is just what the devil wants everyone to believe. Yes, the prince of this world has many followers indeed.

seems like gentiles picking up Old Covenant garments that Israel had to take off to put on the new. and then acting like they're doing something the isrealites could never do and that God never intended to continue is what's trendy.

The law was added. Because of israels transgressions. Bulls and goats could only atone for, or cover their for one year. that's why all the law keepers who focus on the day of atonement are actually focusing on another shadow, since the jews sins were only covered for a year.

this move to acting jewish is not only based totally on myths and lies by individuals who write their own Bibles to make them say anthing but that Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness (but only for those who believe).... the law and the prophets bear witness to it, that is this righteousness apart from the law.

Jesus. and that he actually took away since he didn't just cover it for a year. like if people still need reminders hopefully one day they will come into the reality.

 

[Grandpa]

Yes rest from sin, sin is breaking the law. If you are still breaking it then you are not resting..

If you are still working at the law you are not resting from your works.

Hebrews 4:9-10
[SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Its got nothing to do with adding works. The fruit of the spirit is obedience to God. you can't have the fruit of the Spirit and break the commandments at the same time. they are contrary to each other. Thus the law is not against the fruit of the Spirit..

You can't have the fruit of the Spirit and work at the law in your own power at the same time.
You can't enter into the rest that is given to the people of God and continue working at the law at the same time.
The fruit of the spirit is given to those who have and are entering, His Rest.

The Law does not condemn the fruits of the Spirit because it is in line with the law.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Which one of the fruits is in line with rest on saturdays???

Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Disobedience to God is works not rest.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

People work for wages.

Rom_6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

IF you break the commandments of God then you have not the fruit of the spirit and you are not resting.

Walking in the shadow of the OT and not trusting in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ is unbelief and works of the law.

Attempting to be obedient to the ministry of death written on stones is a misunderstanding of what Christianity is. You have relied on your own understanding and philosophy instead of submitting to the Righteousness of God, which is by faith.

Galatians 3:9-12

[SUP]9 [/SUP]So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
[SUP]
11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]
12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Ah, obedience is idolatry? OK, that explains a lot.

'obedience' is not what is being pushed here...what is being pushed here is blatant idolatry...the post i quoted is a clear example...putting the sabbath in a place only occupied by God...

and that is not obedience but open -disobedience- of the first commandment...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The Cunday cults make an idol of Sunday and it isnt even in the bible

a cult is FOLLOWING MAN

Keeping sunday is following MAN since it is not in the Bible AT ALL ANYWAHERE

why not keep Sabbath and being OBEDIENCE?

Obedience is REQ
UIRED for heaven no matter what the once saved always saved nicolaitians say.

show me one just one person here who 'makes an idol of sunday'...maybe quote someone here who has claimed that 'sunday is the center of the whole bible' or that 'sunday is the sign and seal of God' as you have idolatrously claimed regarding the sabbath...

if you can't do that...then you need to apologize for slandering...and you need to repent of breaking the commandment against false testimony as well as the commandment against idolatry...

and christians are not going to take your statements about 'obedience' seriously until you yourself stop openly -disobeying- the first commandment...

 

[Tintin]

Look up! Oh, wait, it's nothing. Seriously, Look. Get a clue!

 

[JaumeJ]

Please consider the previous reply below. Which is idolatry, to obey what is written or to obey the whims of the minds of men?

When someone does what the Lord wants him to do, he is an idolator. While if another follows the dogmas dreamed up by fleshy minds, he is a believer in good standing. Yes, there is a spirit of delusion upon the earth causing those who loved evil to believe lies. This, of course does not apply to those who are ignorant of what they are doing, so please do not come back with some kind of accusation that I judge others to condemnation. This too would be a lie.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

When someone does what the Lord wants him to do, he is an idolator. While if another follows the dogmas dreamed up by fleshy minds, he is a believer in good standing.

this is simply not what is happening...

as in the example i posted earlier...there -is- blatant idolatry of the sabbath going on here...one of the people involved in this debate is claiming that the sabbath is 'the center of the whole bible' and that it is 'the sign and seal of God'...which puts the sabbath in a place that is only rightfully occupied by God...

another group of people involved in this debate have displayed a habit of openly and unashamedly -rewriting scripture- to increase the prominence of the sabbath in the new testament...

these people are clearly -not- 'doing what the lord wants them to do'...they are the ones 'dreaming up dogmas in their fleshly minds'

i am sure you are familiar with the story of nehushtan...this would not be the first time someone has taken something God created as a blessing and turned it into an idol...

the question is...are you willing the break the nehushtan the way hezekiah did...or are you ok with people continuing in open idolatry because the nehushtan once had something to do with God?