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Hi, Amber!
1) You compared two diferent things, TO MAKE THEM ONE?
2) Anonimity before WHOM? I´m sure you are the kind of young lady who face truth face to face but, what´s the problem if my real name is Amber Garner instead of Secular Hermit? He! He!
The ONE we should fear is the ONE who knows it ALL.
I like this post! As you see, many are afraid to show off (Of course! I fear telling the people I´m in drugs, prostitution... That my ID card is the same number I used for my credit cards and passwords EVERYWHERE).
I have nothing to hide!
Mat_10:28 Don't be afraid of people. They can kill you, but they cannot harm your soul. Instead, you should fear God who can destroy both your body and your soul in hell.
Luk_12:5 God is the one you must fear. Not only can he take your life, but he can throw you into hell. God is certainly the one you should fear!
1) You compared two diferent things, TO MAKE THEM ONE?
2) Anonimity before WHOM? I´m sure you are the kind of young lady who face truth face to face but, what´s the problem if my real name is Amber Garner instead of Secular Hermit? He! He!
The ONE we should fear is the ONE who knows it ALL.
I like this post! As you see, many are afraid to show off (Of course! I fear telling the people I´m in drugs, prostitution... That my ID card is the same number I used for my credit cards and passwords EVERYWHERE).
I have nothing to hide!
Mat_10:28 Don't be afraid of people. They can kill you, but they cannot harm your soul. Instead, you should fear God who can destroy both your body and your soul in hell.
Luk_12:5 God is the one you must fear. Not only can he take your life, but he can throw you into hell. God is certainly the one you should fear!
Hi, Amber!
1) You compared two diferent things, TO MAKE THEM ONE?
2) Anonimity before WHOM? I´m sure you are the kind of young lady who face truth face to face but, what´s the problem if my real name is Amber Garner instead of Secular Hermit? He! He!
The ONE we should fear is the ONE who knows it ALL.
I like this post! As you see, many are afraid to show off (Of course! I fear telling the people I´m in drugs, prostitution... That my ID card is the same number I used for my credit cards and passwords EVERYWHERE).
I have nothing to hide!
Mat_10:28 Don't be afraid of people. They can kill you, but they cannot harm your soul. Instead, you should fear God who can destroy both your body and your soul in hell.
Luk_12:5 God is the one you must fear. Not only can he take your life, but he can throw you into hell. God is certainly the one you should fear!
1) You compared two diferent things, TO MAKE THEM ONE?
2) Anonimity before WHOM? I´m sure you are the kind of young lady who face truth face to face but, what´s the problem if my real name is Amber Garner instead of Secular Hermit? He! He!
The ONE we should fear is the ONE who knows it ALL.
I like this post! As you see, many are afraid to show off (Of course! I fear telling the people I´m in drugs, prostitution... That my ID card is the same number I used for my credit cards and passwords EVERYWHERE).
I have nothing to hide!
Mat_10:28 Don't be afraid of people. They can kill you, but they cannot harm your soul. Instead, you should fear God who can destroy both your body and your soul in hell.
Luk_12:5 God is the one you must fear. Not only can he take your life, but he can throw you into hell. God is certainly the one you should fear!
You may call it the way you think it, angel.
Wear your black glasses or a mask, i just gave my views and I´m not a G.I. not a movie star to run from paparazzies.
As silly or risky it might be, I can be found: TSJ Regiones - Decisi
Wear your black glasses or a mask, i just gave my views and I´m not a G.I. not a movie star to run from paparazzies.
As silly or risky it might be, I can be found: TSJ Regiones - Decisi
Hey, Dr Tour! Let´s back off, we´re on the teen forum...
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Thread: Can Christians Be Anonymous?? "
(Sneakers)
But, if you´d considered it "spiritually" you would have seen it differently.
P.S.
I have no control on my children choices and, recently, my teen daugter called "someone" (with several other "friends") telling her daughter was kidnapped...
Can you imagine WHAT I DID?
What kind of "friends" she really has?
How come people like that DID SUCH a "funny" thing?
The crime was reported to the police by that MOTHER... End of this "risky" story!
"Bible Discussion ForumAsk (or answer) Bible questions here. Join or start a Bible discussion now!
Thread: Can Christians Be Anonymous?? "
(Sneakers)
But, if you´d considered it "spiritually" you would have seen it differently.
P.S.
I have no control on my children choices and, recently, my teen daugter called "someone" (with several other "friends") telling her daughter was kidnapped...
Can you imagine WHAT I DID?
What kind of "friends" she really has?
How come people like that DID SUCH a "funny" thing?
The crime was reported to the police by that MOTHER... End of this "risky" story!
A
Hi, Iam! thanks! you surely know he is Pete (Joh 18:10 Simon Peter had a sword, which he pulled out. He struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear. (The servant's name was Malchus.) Of course, that hidden anonimity could be related to Mary Magdalene and the other woman who was taken to be stoned ( Joh 8:4-11 ).
One of the things I liked from the Bible it is that it isn´t hypocrite. If I sin it is a sin and it seldom lie, except when a man used and euphemism to say things like sex. I.E. "coitus" was "spiritualized" by being translated "bed":
Heb 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
Heb 13:4 Sea el matrimonio honroso en todos, y el lecho matrimonial sin mancilla, porque a los inmorales y a los adúlteros los juzgará Dios.
Heb 13:4 Marriage should be honored by everyone. And every marriage should be kept pure between husband and wife. God will judge guilty those who commit sexual sins and adultery.
Heb 13:4 Let marriage be had in honor among all, and let the bed be undefiled: for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
Where koitë (bed) is the root for coitus.
One of the things I liked from the Bible it is that it isn´t hypocrite. If I sin it is a sin and it seldom lie, except when a man used and euphemism to say things like sex. I.E. "coitus" was "spiritualized" by being translated "bed":
Heb 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
Heb 13:4 Sea el matrimonio honroso en todos, y el lecho matrimonial sin mancilla, porque a los inmorales y a los adúlteros los juzgará Dios.
Heb 13:4 Marriage should be honored by everyone. And every marriage should be kept pure between husband and wife. God will judge guilty those who commit sexual sins and adultery.
Heb 13:4 Let marriage be had in honor among all, and let the bed be undefiled: for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
Where koitë (bed) is the root for coitus.
yes I a few years back did a study on the dating process for determining(not just me,but others in my group) and we used research from libraries,www ect.,,The study actually was to get a more exact date as to the writing of the book of Revelations,the reason being obvious that is that if the book was written before July ad70 then it is stating that Jerusalem was no longer standing and so the prophecies are of a future nature. Although if the book was written before July ad70 then the things written in the book are statements regarding the upcoming destruction of the temple which took place in July ad70.
The other reason is from the many times the wording of the "antichrist" are used in johns other books,that is as we know that john is the only apostle to use the term "antichrist". The reasoning this also would make a difference as to the actual date of the writing is that in (rev. 17;7) the angel states to John that he would "tell thee the mystery",so at the time of the writing John did not understand the woman,beast,10 horns,7heads ect. (hence he did not understand the antichrist if it is the same as any of these). Now so if John wrote the book of rev. before he wrote (1st john,2nd John,3rd John) then he knew what the "antichrist was" because the angel explained it to him in rev.17;7. But if he wrote the three letters(1,2,3,John) before the angel explained it to him then he was using the term antichrist with a different meaning(something he understood prior to (rev.17;7).
So in (Gospel of john) John gives information about Peter that the other Gospels leave out,that is peters name and the name of the high priest servant(as you pointed out). So if Peter was still alive at the time that Matthew and mark wrote their two Gospels and they would have stated the name of the one(Peter) who drew a sword against the high priest servant.then Peter would have been implicated in committing the crime and could have been arrested and charged with injury to Malchus(so neither Matthew nor Mark gave the name of peter because peter was still alive and could have been charged).
John on the other hand gives the name of Peter and Malchus in his Gospel which is a strong indicator that at the time the Gospel of john was written that Peter had already been put to death(ad 66-67) so it would make no difference if John used his name. So then across the three Gospels 2 withhold the name of peter(used anonymity) and then John gives his(peter's) name after the point in time where it could be used against him. Also in (judges 13;18) there is an angel (with a secret name),I notice looking for list of names given in scripture for the angels mentioned that this angels name is never mentioned(secret name?).
It is a curious thread "can Christians be anonymous?" because it really gets us to thinking as to weather or not we should give personal information over the www or withhold it. In a forum,online ect. It I think would not be important because many of us also have other family members who could be effected if personal information was stated. Others though may not have family members that might be effected by divulging personal information. This is my reasoning for stating what I did of Matthew,Mark and John that is they seem to have been careful in their writings to bare in mind that they could also affect Peter if they wrote his name(without his permission) if it might put him in danger. On the other hand John seeing that Peter had already died and so could no longer be affected by the release of his name felt as tho it would not.
The other reason is from the many times the wording of the "antichrist" are used in johns other books,that is as we know that john is the only apostle to use the term "antichrist". The reasoning this also would make a difference as to the actual date of the writing is that in (rev. 17;7) the angel states to John that he would "tell thee the mystery",so at the time of the writing John did not understand the woman,beast,10 horns,7heads ect. (hence he did not understand the antichrist if it is the same as any of these). Now so if John wrote the book of rev. before he wrote (1st john,2nd John,3rd John) then he knew what the "antichrist was" because the angel explained it to him in rev.17;7. But if he wrote the three letters(1,2,3,John) before the angel explained it to him then he was using the term antichrist with a different meaning(something he understood prior to (rev.17;7).
So in (Gospel of john) John gives information about Peter that the other Gospels leave out,that is peters name and the name of the high priest servant(as you pointed out). So if Peter was still alive at the time that Matthew and mark wrote their two Gospels and they would have stated the name of the one(Peter) who drew a sword against the high priest servant.then Peter would have been implicated in committing the crime and could have been arrested and charged with injury to Malchus(so neither Matthew nor Mark gave the name of peter because peter was still alive and could have been charged).
John on the other hand gives the name of Peter and Malchus in his Gospel which is a strong indicator that at the time the Gospel of john was written that Peter had already been put to death(ad 66-67) so it would make no difference if John used his name. So then across the three Gospels 2 withhold the name of peter(used anonymity) and then John gives his(peter's) name after the point in time where it could be used against him. Also in (judges 13;18) there is an angel (with a secret name),I notice looking for list of names given in scripture for the angels mentioned that this angels name is never mentioned(secret name?).
It is a curious thread "can Christians be anonymous?" because it really gets us to thinking as to weather or not we should give personal information over the www or withhold it. In a forum,online ect. It I think would not be important because many of us also have other family members who could be effected if personal information was stated. Others though may not have family members that might be effected by divulging personal information. This is my reasoning for stating what I did of Matthew,Mark and John that is they seem to have been careful in their writings to bare in mind that they could also affect Peter if they wrote his name(without his permission) if it might put him in danger. On the other hand John seeing that Peter had already died and so could no longer be affected by the release of his name felt as tho it would not.
Congratulations! A very outstanding lecture (obviosly serving to know the reasons that they (detractors) might have called odd issues and "biblical Inconherencies").
A further word more, on anonymity: If I´m rich, dying with a terminal desease, I should not brag telling people how rich I am (I will be an object of prey to depradators, no matter its sex or gender. Even Orgs and churches might seek what they think I have to give, by the way).
At the end of the day, I´m responsible for what I have said, written or done. It´s easy to say things like this: I heard, a fiend of mine heard that "so and so" happened but, if something is a crime or that information can be tracked back (probably it is) I´d better say nothing. Before GOD, not only men, I have an account to give (as those who wrote the Gospel).
I really like the way Mss A. Gardner approched the subject.
A further word more, on anonymity: If I´m rich, dying with a terminal desease, I should not brag telling people how rich I am (I will be an object of prey to depradators, no matter its sex or gender. Even Orgs and churches might seek what they think I have to give, by the way).
At the end of the day, I´m responsible for what I have said, written or done. It´s easy to say things like this: I heard, a fiend of mine heard that "so and so" happened but, if something is a crime or that information can be tracked back (probably it is) I´d better say nothing. Before GOD, not only men, I have an account to give (as those who wrote the Gospel).
I really like the way Mss A. Gardner approched the subject.
yes her reasoning for as to why or why not is a good approach(I think it should be tailor made to each individual for different reasons). My own screen name "iamsoandso" is in fact anonymity, that is there are many iamsoandso's online whom I do not know and I am only one of them(some of which one should be careful,I am only one of them that use this screen name on the www) it is captive to each of our email addresses i suppose(mine is different from theirs).
I began using mine in the late 90's when the internet first took off. I began posting with the first of the christian forums on the internet when aol was the only isp and received an email back then when aol passed the 5 million users online in 1996.(lol,can you remember when there were only 5 mill. people in the world on the internet?) The www is a much safer environment today because of spyware,anti-virus ect. than it was back then. In the old days I would run my computer with the side open so I could swap out hard drives and reformat the drive I pulled (wipe out viruses) and had a floppy so I could put the rest back on.
I wish I would have began with Linux instead of windows for that reason that is linux really needs no antivirus. I started looking at it when they released freespire but even they came a long way ubuntu is my preference now. It was the strangest thing in the beginning of the www if you searched for christian,manuscripts,ect. they were categorized as controversial so you would have to wade through the other garbage to find them(in the midst i crashed my com. about once a week,lol).
Anyhow I went through a few other screen-names and then settled on iamsoandso(as far as i know i was the first one),but as time went on I found others one from spain,then a few from here(i am none of those others). A few years ago I received an email from the occupy movement asking me to pay my fee(I thought what fee?),that is I have never been to one of their rallies and have never met any of them. after a few emails they sent me my password and i went to their forums and i was already on there and had posted from the beginning(but it's not me either it's someone else using iamsoandso),lol
I researched this for about a year(and argued with them about it),but in the end this is what I found. In the archives of their forum the first year or so it was permitted for them to use the name "anonymous",or any name they chose,unlike most forums where there can only be one person with that screen-name(multiple people use the same name,just different passwords) you can tell this because anonymous will post back and forth to anonymous at times from the first post till the last post and argue,talk about things ect. and from top to bottom everyone has the same screen name(drove me crazy till i figured that out).
the name iamsoandso(on their site) I found was started in an interview between them and the news back when they were in the news a lot. The news anchor ask one of them who is the head of o.w.s. they answered "oh,so and so",,the anchor ask "who is so and so?" and one of them answered "I am so and so",,then another one of them said "I am so and so", another said "I am one two",the next "I am one also",ect.ect. The anchor ask what they meant and they said "I am so and so is a young man she is a woman,she is an old man he is everyone",the short of it is that they have no leader or all of them are "anonymous",,Now I noticed from looking at their screen names(ones from the first years in the archives) there is "iamsoandso","Iamonetwo","Iamonealso",,"Ilasoamone",ect. but that interview is why they all did that.
I should say though that i am saying all this and "i do not endorse their beliefs,web site ect.",,I just had to look for my piece of mind because they were all using my screen name. Buried in one of their post Jart(their moderator/admin) is about to undergo surgery and from the hospital posted a link to the other members. In the link is all of the master passwords,admin.,moderators ect. (so strange enough every member has full access to the entire site). for that reason they change screen names,delete post,delete threads,re-write them ect.,,,,Any way I am one "Iamsoandso", I was iamsoandso before the ows movement began(and not part of it),but it still concerns me because i am a christian man,and I notice as time has gone on there have begun to surface other iamsoandso's who are not me,nor do I think are christian.
I began using mine in the late 90's when the internet first took off. I began posting with the first of the christian forums on the internet when aol was the only isp and received an email back then when aol passed the 5 million users online in 1996.(lol,can you remember when there were only 5 mill. people in the world on the internet?) The www is a much safer environment today because of spyware,anti-virus ect. than it was back then. In the old days I would run my computer with the side open so I could swap out hard drives and reformat the drive I pulled (wipe out viruses) and had a floppy so I could put the rest back on.
I wish I would have began with Linux instead of windows for that reason that is linux really needs no antivirus. I started looking at it when they released freespire but even they came a long way ubuntu is my preference now. It was the strangest thing in the beginning of the www if you searched for christian,manuscripts,ect. they were categorized as controversial so you would have to wade through the other garbage to find them(in the midst i crashed my com. about once a week,lol).
Anyhow I went through a few other screen-names and then settled on iamsoandso(as far as i know i was the first one),but as time went on I found others one from spain,then a few from here(i am none of those others). A few years ago I received an email from the occupy movement asking me to pay my fee(I thought what fee?),that is I have never been to one of their rallies and have never met any of them. after a few emails they sent me my password and i went to their forums and i was already on there and had posted from the beginning(but it's not me either it's someone else using iamsoandso),lol
I researched this for about a year(and argued with them about it),but in the end this is what I found. In the archives of their forum the first year or so it was permitted for them to use the name "anonymous",or any name they chose,unlike most forums where there can only be one person with that screen-name(multiple people use the same name,just different passwords) you can tell this because anonymous will post back and forth to anonymous at times from the first post till the last post and argue,talk about things ect. and from top to bottom everyone has the same screen name(drove me crazy till i figured that out).
the name iamsoandso(on their site) I found was started in an interview between them and the news back when they were in the news a lot. The news anchor ask one of them who is the head of o.w.s. they answered "oh,so and so",,the anchor ask "who is so and so?" and one of them answered "I am so and so",,then another one of them said "I am so and so", another said "I am one two",the next "I am one also",ect.ect. The anchor ask what they meant and they said "I am so and so is a young man she is a woman,she is an old man he is everyone",the short of it is that they have no leader or all of them are "anonymous",,Now I noticed from looking at their screen names(ones from the first years in the archives) there is "iamsoandso","Iamonetwo","Iamonealso",,"Ilasoamone",ect. but that interview is why they all did that.
I should say though that i am saying all this and "i do not endorse their beliefs,web site ect.",,I just had to look for my piece of mind because they were all using my screen name. Buried in one of their post Jart(their moderator/admin) is about to undergo surgery and from the hospital posted a link to the other members. In the link is all of the master passwords,admin.,moderators ect. (so strange enough every member has full access to the entire site). for that reason they change screen names,delete post,delete threads,re-write them ect.,,,,Any way I am one "Iamsoandso", I was iamsoandso before the ows movement began(and not part of it),but it still concerns me because i am a christian man,and I notice as time has gone on there have begun to surface other iamsoandso's who are not me,nor do I think are christian.
@ Iam so "linux really needs no antivirus."
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On that you said: Note to new Linux users: No antivirus needed | Linux.com
Clamv and this would serve to remove those afecting Windows OS: Free Linux Antivirus | Virus Protection | Antivirus for Linux