Abortian

[ClimbingUpward]

Abortion is murder regardless of whether the person was raped or not. They don't have to keep the child. There are so many people out there who can't have children due to infertility, and are trying desperately to adopt, but there aren't many to adopt because so many are aborting.

It would be so difficult to be in that situation though. So it's understandable that they would just want the child out, but it would be hard to live with afterwards, so many woman/girls need to have counselling afterwards because it really effects them emotionally and physiologically.

If it's not a case of rape, then, well, they need to learn to live with the consequences of their actions.

I don't understand how people can do it as a job, being the docs who do the aborting. How sad for them. Pray that they turn form this and find Jesus so they stop assisting in this sin.

 

[Sho_Minamimoto]

Abortion is just wrong, period. The ones that are born already are for abortion.

Hm, guess I'll have to show the opposite side then.
Number one; Why is abortion wrong? The human population is already growing due to extrodinary childbirth, and many teenagers are having children they are not ready for, which are, in short, closing down many career options for the parents.
Number two; A fetus is not a child. Many christians argue the "soul" case, but souls cannot be proven to exist. A fetus is not a child until childbirth, a month before at maximum.
Number three; Why should women have to raise the child of a rapist, a momnet she will remember and hate for the rest of her life? What career options are cut off for this now-mother? How will she raise the child, when she may feel regret or hatred everytime she sees them? How can she explain to them where their father is?
Number four; There's always the old coat hanger option, which is much more dangeros then an abortion carried out by trained medical professionals.

 

[Sho_Minamimoto]

Abortion is murder regardless of whether the person was raped or not. They don't have to keep the child. There are so many people out there who can't have children due to infertility, and are trying desperately to adopt, but there aren't many to adopt because so many are aborting.

It would be so difficult to be in that situation though. So it's understandable that they would just want the child out, but it would be hard to live with afterwards, so many woman/girls need to have counselling afterwards because it really effects them emotionally and physiologically.

If it's not a case of rape, then, well, they need to learn to live with the consequences of their actions.

I don't understand how people can do it as a job, being the docs who do the aborting. How sad for them. Pray that they turn form this and find Jesus so they stop assisting in this sin.

Prove it is a sin. Where in the bible does it say that the canceling of a childbirth is murder? Why not just let doctors do thier jobs safely, so as to avoid injury to pregnant women who attempt to carry out an abrtion themselves?

 

[Kathleen]

Hm, guess I'll have to show the opposite side then.
Number one; Why is abortion wrong? The human population is already growing due to extrodinary childbirth, and many teenagers are having children they are not ready for, which are, in short, closing down many career options for the parents.
Number two; A fetus is not a child. Many christians argue the "soul" case, but souls cannot be proven to exist. A fetus is not a child until childbirth, a month before at maximum.
Number three; Why should women have to raise the child of a rapist, a momnet she will remember and hate for the rest of her life? What career options are cut off for this now-mother? How will she raise the child, when she may feel regret or hatred everytime she sees them? How can she explain to them where their father is?
Number four; There's always the old coat hanger option, which is much more dangeros then an abortion carried out by trained medical professionals.

first of all - are u even a chrisitan?!?!?!?!

thanks for showing us the oppisite side - but it is not needed.

number one: abortion is wrong because it is myrder - the population is growing and teenagers are having children - well done , ur right on something. The majority of teenagers that have kids, r not married, they are having bastard children - their children is a result of sin. If they have the pleasure of sex - sin outwith marrige - then they should have to endure any complication their life may face because of their actions. if u dont want a kid - dont have kids (in the words of caleb - keep ur legs closed)
number two: this is one of the main points that make me wonder if u r a chrisitan. Ecery person has a soul - it may not be provable, but neither is God or the Big Bang. It may be a '[fetus' techincally butit is alive. Its heart beats by itself - my fiend was born 5 months early - she is a well, healthy girl. - this proves that ther is a life. - thus a child imo
Number three:she does not have to raise the child. The child should not have to die because of the way it was concieved. Simply give the child up for adoption. - its that simple!
number four: have u looked into the way they kill the child. The coat hanger option is just stupid and u r silly for brining it up. The 'proffesionals' who do this are assisting in the sin. in my opinion the 'proffesionals' r good at killing children - yeah what an achivemnt and what a thing to be proud of.

seriously man! think

 

[imoss]

Sho minamimoto... did you know your avatar looks like a demon?

 

[Sho_Minamimoto]

first of all - are u even a chrisitan?!?!?!?!

thanks for showing us the oppisite side - but it is not needed.

number one: abortion is wrong because it is myrder - the population is growing and teenagers are having children - well done , ur right on something. The majority of teenagers that have kids, r not married, they are having bastard children - their children is a result of sin. If they have the pleasure of sex - sin outwith marrige - then they should have to endure any complication their life may face because of their actions. if u dont want a kid - dont have kids (in the words of caleb - keep ur legs closed)
number two: this is one of the main points that make me wonder if u r a chrisitan. Ecery person has a soul - it may not be provable, but neither is God or the Big Bang. It may be a '[fetus' techincally butit is alive. Its heart beats by itself - my fiend was born 5 months early - she is a well, healthy girl. - this proves that ther is a life. - thus a child imo
Number three:she does not have to raise the child. The child should not have to die because of the way it was concieved. Simply give the child up for adoption. - its that simple!
number four: have u looked into the way they kill the child. The coat hanger option is just stupid and u r silly for brining it up. The 'proffesionals' who do this are assisting in the sin. in my opinion the 'proffesionals' r good at killing children - yeah what an achivemnt and what a thing to be proud of.

seriously man! think

*ahem* Try to keep your statements valid. Of course I am not christian, there is a non-christian option for joining this website you know, this does not however, make me a bad person. Merely differntly opinion. Now;
Number one; How can you prove it is murder? As of yet, there is no clear answer as to whether an unborn fetus can be considered a child, so there is nothing to support your claim that it is murder. And the idea of sins is just silly.
Number two; How can you tell there is a soul? Considering the improvable nature, this should not be a reason to ban abortion. Kudos to your...I assume you mean friend, not "fiend?"
Number three; She would still have to go through childbirth, which (I am told) is an uncomfortable expierience. And overpopulation is still a problem.
Number four; I believe your point is invalid. The "coat hanger" option is a perfectly valid point to bring up. Many illegal abortions are carried out today, and are risky to both fetus and woman. These doctors are at least providing a safe abortion. And again, "sin" is ridiculous.
Number five; In the end, make a decision for your own child/fetus, whatever, and let others make theirs. What right is it of yours to tell others to act according to your beliefs?

I think rather well. Unlike your teacher, I do not sway like a reed when met with counter-arguments. Also, work on your spelling. When posting, you can at least take time to use proper puntuation and capitalization.

 

[Sho_Minamimoto]

Sho minamimoto... did you know your avatar looks like a demon?

Don't be silly. It's merely a creature from a video game I am fond of. They're all different animals, and each one has part of it's body made of a "tattoo", which is the blue parts. This is one of the wolves.

 

[imoss]

ah so you arent a demon, you are a ravenous wolf. I'm a snowwoman.

 

[Cako53]

Well Kathleen I'll save you the time of typing up a whole response, he is banned just incase you didn't see that. So I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I figured I'd save you the time of typing a long message back. And thanks for using my idea!

 

[Kathleen]

anytime caleb - i was just about tot tyype a loong reply lol - so thanks for the heads up
after i have done my chores im going over to the peircings and tattos thread

 

[Cako53]

anytime caleb - i was just about tot tyype a loong reply lol - so thanks for the heads up
after i have done my chores im going over to the peircings and tattos thread

YAY! I want a response I am out to work in about 5 so I will hopefully find time to respond to your response later tonight.

 

[GEORGIE]

im currently studying in a medical carrer, something that has stayed with me of what ive learned so far is that a baby has blood of both mother and father so either way it is still your son. To have a healthy baby is a miracle, there are so many little things that can go wrong. The feeling mothers get when they see there baby, be it at birth or through a monitor is so passionate and intimate, mother love, i dont believe anything can taint it. God bless u brothers

 

[CupOfColdWater]

The bible says in
Isaiah 44:2 This is what the LORD says—
he who made you, who formed you in the womb,
and who will help you:
Do not be afraid, O Jacob, my servant,
Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
This is saying God established a relationship personally with us while we were in our mothers womb. So murder
1. To kill (another human) unlawfully.
2. To kill brutally or inhumanly.
A baby even in the mothers womb is a murder because yes it has a spirit of a human and is as much as us a Human being create by God with a purpose that abortion takes away.
I am 100 percent against abortion in any matter.

 

[BobbyJoe]

Abortion is wrong of course. I was driving down the road one day and I got all bumbed out and messed up. I said Hey God I cant drive anymore help me.!!!!! Suddenly I felt the LOrds presence and another beings presence I felt like somone took control of my driving so I quit. A voice of a young teenager welled up in me " O boy!... I never got to drive before this is neat". I knew instantly who this was that had taken control; some teen years earlier my daughter had been forced into an abortion by blackmail. God had brought My first grandson from heaven and let him drive the car through me for a while. YOu must remeber with God all things are possible; God talked through a donkey and moved with his spirit Samson and numerious other individuals. No Im not crazy or yes I am Crazy over my Jesus. God is Love and does for some this way and does for others that way. I do believe he brought the visitation about that others might know that the innocent aborted children make it to heaven as well. And a man I know of was taken to heaven and was honored to see some of the sights going on there. He said the aborted children were being raised by their close kin whom had already made it there Halla luejah thank you Father.

 

[NoTearsShed]

Prove it is a sin. Where in the bible does it say that the canceling of a childbirth is murder? Why not just let doctors do thier jobs safely, so as to avoid injury to pregnant women who attempt to carry out an abrtion themselves?

I believe one of the commandments says "You shall not kill"
Exodus 20:13

 

[NoTearsShed]

ah so you arent a demon, you are a ravenous wolf. I'm a snowwoman.

:O

*runs inside your computer to outside your house*
SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in texas were it dont snow UNLESS were blessed to have 1 centimeter or less of snow

I really want to build a snowman

 

[Cako53]

:O

*runs inside your computer to outside your house*
SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in texas were it dont snow UNLESS were blessed to have 1 centimeter or less of snow

I really want to build a snowman

An American who uses centimeters?!?!?!? :O

 

[Maddog]

An American who uses centimeters?!?!?!? :O

The EU are invading the US, it would seem.

I like the imperial system; it makes people better at maths. I always ask for my baccy in ounces.

 

[Cako53]

It would appear that way would it not?

 

[tryingtofindhim]

I'm just going to add something from experience and I AM NOT GOING FOR ABORTION, but this has been bothering me. Some people and me being one of those people say rape is one more acceptable reason for an abortion, and other of you say you don't have to keep the child you can just put if for adoption. I just have a question of you people who say just put the child for adoption have you ever been through a rape or sexual abuse? Sometimes if from your family member and you may have to see them everyday as you are carrying their child. If that's the situation, it is such a difficult situation to be put through already and then have to bare the child and see the result of someone else violating you. Just a thought