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You don't know how to live a life of faith do you?
Am I deceived ??? That is what the scripture say to do .....
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Am I deceived ??? That is what the scripture say to do .....
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
E
Yeah I do. Every day I wake up/ I thank God I am not in Hell (a place I deserve) and walk by faith, it is all that carries me forward.
You do not know how to have a salvation of faith do you? There is a huge difference between salvation by faith and life by faith, if your not saved, Your faith in life would be a false faith.
Yeah you are decieved.
You claim faith in Christ Yet you deny faith in the work of Christ for salvation. And lace yourself more powerful than God.
You do not know how to have a salvation of faith do you? There is a huge difference between salvation by faith and life by faith, if your not saved, Your faith in life would be a false faith.
Yeah you are decieved.
You claim faith in Christ Yet you deny faith in the work of Christ for salvation. And lace yourself more powerful than God.
subtle changes in scripture births new doctrine...the scripture says the GOSPEL of Christ is the power of God unto salvation it does not say power of salvation....to everyone who believe (seem like a condition to me)
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
No I am working on it but in the meantime, this is the promise I have from God....
1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
E
I would love to comment on this. But you can;t even get the formatting right. Is it so hard to place quotes inbetween your posts so people can actually see them? I will try to answer some so. if I miss some, don;t blame me.
No. Everyone will not get what they deserve. If they do. No one will get into heaven. Because no one deserves the gift of God. Which is eternal life.
Thats your problem, you claim you are going to god in faith, but by your words you deny it. Your trying to hard to un-earn condemnation by your works. you fail to see that no matter how good you think you are. you are still condemned by the law as a sinner, and thus doomed to hell for all eternity. Maybe when you realise this, you will finally understand what TRUE faith in the work of God and his promise means.
But I am losing hope you will ever find this out. All I can do is pray for you to have your eyes opened, and see as paul saw himself. what a wretched man you are. And have God save you, and stop trying to save yourself
No. Everyone will not get what they deserve. If they do. No one will get into heaven. Because no one deserves the gift of God. Which is eternal life.
Thats your problem, you claim you are going to god in faith, but by your words you deny it. Your trying to hard to un-earn condemnation by your works. you fail to see that no matter how good you think you are. you are still condemned by the law as a sinner, and thus doomed to hell for all eternity. Maybe when you realise this, you will finally understand what TRUE faith in the work of God and his promise means.
But I am losing hope you will ever find this out. All I can do is pray for you to have your eyes opened, and see as paul saw himself. what a wretched man you are. And have God save you, and stop trying to save yourself
I obey God not you...your words signify you are either lazy or ignorant...these are things God is telling you to do friend or is it you are just plain disobedient..?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
F
Was a person saved before they went out and mowed down people with a machine gun? Were they born again? Do we as Christians still sin?
Solomon knew full well that he and all men not only have the potential for sin, but that we all exercise that capacity routinely. As he stated in his prayer at the dedication of the temple, "If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not)" (1 Kings 8:46). And Solomon spoke of it again in the book of Ecclesiastes: "For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not" (Ecclesiastes 7:20). Again, while these verses do not unequivocally indicate daily sin, they certainly warn us against the pride of saying at any moment that we have no sin.
The good news is that we will not have to strive forever against daily sin. One day we will be in heaven with our Savior and will be freed from the presence and power of sin, just as we have already been freed from its penalty.
Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away.
(A) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be "un-indwelt" and detached from the Body of Christ.
(B) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never "eternal" at all. Hence if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.
(C) For the most conclusive argument, Scripture says it best itself, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:38-39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure!
Solomon knew full well that he and all men not only have the potential for sin, but that we all exercise that capacity routinely. As he stated in his prayer at the dedication of the temple, "If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not)" (1 Kings 8:46). And Solomon spoke of it again in the book of Ecclesiastes: "For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not" (Ecclesiastes 7:20). Again, while these verses do not unequivocally indicate daily sin, they certainly warn us against the pride of saying at any moment that we have no sin.
The good news is that we will not have to strive forever against daily sin. One day we will be in heaven with our Savior and will be freed from the presence and power of sin, just as we have already been freed from its penalty.
Believers are born again (regenerated) when they believe (John 3:3; Titus 3:5). For a Christian to lose his salvation, he would have to be un-regenerated. The Bible gives no evidence that the new birth can be taken away.
(A) The Holy Spirit indwells all believers (John 14:17; Romans 8:9) and baptizes all believers into the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13). For a believer to become unsaved, he would have to be "un-indwelt" and detached from the Body of Christ.
(B) John 3:15 states that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If you believe in Christ today and have eternal life, but lose it tomorrow, then it was never "eternal" at all. Hence if you lose your salvation, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.
(C) For the most conclusive argument, Scripture says it best itself, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 8:38-39). Remember the same God who saved you is the same God who will keep you. Once we are saved we are always saved. Our salvation is most definitely eternally secure!
The fruit of the fall is the knowledge of good and evil. Man must choose between good and evil. God has concluded all in unbelief that He might have mercy upon the whosoever wills of this world.
Conditions no but a choice yes. Joshua said choose ye this day whom ye will serve but for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
If you do not know or if you have doubts just ask God to make it plain to you. God is merciful and will save you or confirm your trust in Christ if you ask Him to do so.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Conditions no but a choice yes. Joshua said choose ye this day whom ye will serve but for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
If you do not know or if you have doubts just ask God to make it plain to you. God is merciful and will save you or confirm your trust in Christ if you ask Him to do so.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
R
I was giving an example from a a person perspective attitude. I think you may have to read the OP again, to get the full adjust of what I'm saying. There are lots of people who misunderstands this concept and readings from teh bible. You can see clearly that in people's lives that the enemy has twisted the truth about Once saved, always saved melarky.
The person I was saying about in the first part of the op. Was a typical persons attitude. there was no specific person. It was said as an example.
I undestand its hard to read emotions through text or messages. and thats why people read things wrongly.
and Finally it was not a question. but a statement, hence no question mark at the end of the title. Which is another fail in people when reading something. Now I'm not saying that you misread it and stuff like that. but perhaps if you re-read the op, hopefully you will see what I was saying.
God bless
The person I was saying about in the first part of the op. Was a typical persons attitude. there was no specific person. It was said as an example.
I undestand its hard to read emotions through text or messages. and thats why people read things wrongly.
and Finally it was not a question. but a statement, hence no question mark at the end of the title. Which is another fail in people when reading something. Now I'm not saying that you misread it and stuff like that. but perhaps if you re-read the op, hopefully you will see what I was saying.
God bless
No ,You are seeing what you want to see....I am telling you that you have the power to say no to sin....God did not clean you up and leave you helpless. He gave you power to become a son of God. So there is no excuse to sin.period.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
God did the work already but if it is not manifest in you, it means you don't have it ...you must bear fruit
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
God did the work already but if it is not manifest in you, it means you don't have it ...you must bear fruit