KILLINGS OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS BY ISRAELI FORCES

[biscuit]

The UN Is a joke, most of the resuloutions are only made due to the majority of nations being Arab and Islamic who unite against anything to do with Israel.

The most anti-Semitic entity in the world.

 

[SonInMe]

If Hamas stopped firing missiles into Israel and by the way Gaza too, then would Israel retaliate?

Nope.

Who is killing palestinian children?

Hamas is.

Its really not hard to see that....is it?

 

[prodigal]

SO if Israel removed its protection and allowed hundreds of its civillians to die that would make it better?

trying to use death tolls to keep score is just as evil as killing children.

No one wants to see civillians killed, Israel does not target civillians, its just that Hamas puts civillians in the way, so when something blows up civillians die.

I am amazed that you can not see the evil of Hamas is using its population as human shields and refusing aid to be sent in, instead using lack of aid as more propaganda , portraying more human suffering to the media which the likes of you lap up and swallow hook line and sinker.

1 to over 1600 and you cant answer that vital[piece of info ,so you mock it, with your clever words you try and take attention of the 1600 and say the info isnon valid as you see it used as a game, how sad, they all had families, mums dads, they are not lower life forms,

what if indeed

 

[Sirk]

1 to over 1600 and you cant answer that vital[piece of info ,so you mock it, with your clever words you try and take attention of the 1600 and say the info isnon valid as you see it used as a game, how sad, they all had families, mums dads, they are not lower life forms,

what if indeed

There is a certain percentage of the population who will succumb to the Hamas body count propaganda machine. Congratulations for being so easily duped.

 

[Stephen63]

1 to over 1600 and you cant answer that vital[piece of info ,so you mock it, with your clever words you try and take attention of the 1600 and say the info isnon valid as you see it used as a game, how sad, they all had families, mums dads, they are not lower life forms,

what if indeed

How do you know it's 1600? Because the media told you so. And the 1? Because the media told you so. Who makes Israel look like the bad guy when the Hamas have sworn to kill the Jews? The media has.

Keep on listening to the media & they'll have you standing on your head.

 

[Agricola]

Ok I will answer the question differently. the question was...

the protective dome works in israel score so far israel civilian death 1 ,, palestinian civilian death 1200+ ( over 600 children) the dome works ,,,, why massacre the children

Awnser : Because Hamas use them as shields and not all deaths are by Israel. Hospitals and schools have been hit by Hamas rockets falling short, hundreds of rockets have failed to make it to Israel and have landed on Gaza, but of course every time there is an explosion it is "Evil Israel" Hamas have played the media yet again, there is hardly an article about the friendly fire casulties inflicted by Hamas, but it is happening more than you think.

Are you seriously thinking that Israel is dilibertly targetting civillians? Have you missed the mass leaflet drops telling people to leave the areas that are going to be bombed? Hamas did not, but Hamas told the people to stay.

Again I ask you, if no missles were fired into Israel would those children be alive today? YES!

Hamas is 100% to blame.

 

[Agricola]

Here is an interesting video, A journalist is making a live report when Hamas fires rockets right next to the tv Crew, he then says that he sorry he has to cut it short as there is usually a strike by Israel soon after. This is how the children Die, the rockets are destroyed along with building it is firing next to, which will contain children.

IF Hamas dug tunnels , fired rockets and set up bases no where near civillian homes then there would be no dead children.

Hamas are evil
Israel is good.

[video=youtube;WXdEWrN3IEw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXdEWrN3IEw[/video]

 

[PennEd]

1 to over 1600 and you cant answer that vital[piece of info ,so you mock it, with your clever words you try and take attention of the 1600 and say the info isnon valid as you see it used as a game, how sad, they all had families, mums dads, they are not lower life forms,

what if indeed

You are either ignorant or anti-semitic. To compare how many died on each side is a patently evil way to calculate who is right or wrong. I don't want anybody to die, least of all children. No child would be dead if hamas had not fired rockets into Israeli cities, FORCING Israel to defend itself. Your statement that because they have an effective rocket defense system they should tolerate the attacks is sophomoric and beneath the intellect of most thinking adults.

Your country and mine killed hundreds of thousands of children in WWII bombings. We did this to defeat a greater evil. Why your mind can't grasp a moral difference is disturbing. Not to mention, as has been noted, hamas not only forced the children to surround them while they cowardly fired behind them, but many of the rockets intended to kill Israeli children landed on muslim children in gaza.

 

[Agricola]

At last a journalist reporting that Hamas use human shields, she tells how Hamas fired rockets from the car park of the hospital, which of course was not empty.

How can people support Hamas I do not know.[video=youtube_share;Nu-e5qWXx-k]http://youtu.be/Nu-e5qWXx-k[/video]

 

[PennEd]

Islam and hamas are evil...

BARBARIC! Hamas Posts Dead Jew Collage on Twitter | The Gateway Pundit

 

[PennEd]

It's not just hamas, it is the religion...

SICK. Muslim Mother Whose Son Is Being Treated in Isreali Hospital Hopes He Joins the Jihad (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

 

[Esanta]

There is little difference between those Palestinians who believe their cause righteous and you lot who think Israel are right. No difference between the 'terrorists' that consider themselves freedom fighters and the guys controlling drones or at the helm of an F16 loaded with bunker busters that want to 'liberate' people in the middle east. There's no difference between a Hamas fighter who kills three Israeli teenagers or the Israeli soldier guarding a roadblock who shoots a Palestinian child for trying to climb over it to get to school.

There's not one ounce of morality between them.

It's a well known fact of war that a country with less fire-power resorts to more desperate tactics, but even if Hamas soldiers are holding their own kids up on pallets as shields against rockets, it strikes me that the rocket is the thing more likely to cause the deaths of those children. The rocket seems to be the important factor there. It's more likely that these stories, 'Hamas' use their kids as shields', is blatant dehumanization, something that all large militaries use to make their targets look less-than-human to the soldiers. The British dehumanized the Iraqis in propaganda videos in basic training, the Americans do similarly, and I bet the Israeli army are just the same with the Palestinians.

This seems to be the logic; 'if there's a terrorist in a civilian building then it's the terrorist putting innocent children at risk, not the Israeli/American/British army'. Well, no, it's the rocket landing on the building that seems to do the damage, folks. Hamas are of course, waging war and brutalizing Israel as much as they can, but Israel are doing no better. Al Qaeda are doing no better, or NATO.

The Israeli soldiers patrolling Israeli occupied areas who shoot Muslims and Christians? Rape women? Kill kids going to school, anyone? The Hamas members who abduct and torture innocent Israelis?

Sgt, Wuderick, if anyone remembers in 2005, ordered his troops to open the doors of Afghan civilian homes and 'shoot and ask questions later', Contra style. He and his men killed 24 unarmed civilians and got away with a pay dock and a demotion. The drones strikes at Granai, anyone? Almost a hundred civilians dead and no terrorists found? No repercussions for any US military?

You people cry 'barbarians' about not even 50 Israeli soldiers being killed by Hamas when there have been more than a thousand Palestinian civilians killed in a matter of weeks, which you all seem to ignore or blame on Hamas using them as shields. You've bought into the dehumanization. Don't you think that's extremely biased? You don't think both sides deserve blame here?

If not, then have never met a bigger bunch of hypocrites.

You shout out against people who have been brutalized by Israel from joining the Jihad, yet sit at home and have no problem with your sons and daughters signing up to go killing people they've never met, who have never brutalized them at all.

You tell me who the terrorists are, because I honestly don't know anymore.

 

[Stephen63]

You don't think both sides deserve blame here?

If not, then have never met a bigger bunch of hypocrites.

Yes, Israel deserves some blame...... for not wiping out their enemies like God commanded them in the OT.

 

[Esanta]

Yes, Israel deserves some blame...... for not wiping out their enemies like God commanded them in the OT.

The idea that Palestinians, refugees without adequate food, water, human rights, shelter, nationality, provisions or livelihood, can all be considered unworthy - not human enough to be valued - that you would condone killing them all because some of them object to their state of affairs, while you sit at home, having never been part of the Israel Palestine conflict, having never had reason to despise these people other than your own bias, shows me that you are at best an evil person, at worst a warmonger.

You are sick. You're sick with a virus, like a hatred that's spread around America.

I remember, over ten years ago, maybe before 9/11, that the archetype of an American civilian was a person of value, of non-bias, heroism, who deliberated rightly about the consequences of a decision, an admirable noble character. What happened?

 

[Esanta]

Honestly, what I have seen from the start of this thread is so far from unbiased, fair, noble or right. I struggle to believe that people genuinely are so dark and cynical.

 

[Agricola]

Tell Hamas and all the other state sponsored terrorists to stop firing rockets and mortars, give up weapons and stop attacking Israel with suicide bombers, then there will be no more bloodshed and open borders.

HAmas are evil nasty scum who love death and value the death of Jews over the death of thier own children.


I tell you numerous times, I do not like seeing children killed or any civillian, I do not revel in thier deaths, what I want is people to see the truth, that Hamas are the ones sending them to thier graves, the blood of the dead children are on the hands of Hamas.

The hatred of Jews and Israel is blinding people to what is really happening. The censorship of the media, only being able to film dead children can never give a true picture.

Some journalists do tell of the truth, but they are threatened with death, one Journilst said how Hamas had fired rockets from a hospital carpark which she was reporting from.

The world is going to be against Israel, that is prophecy, we are seeing that today, even if it means compromising the truth and making up lies against Israel.

 

[Stephen63]

The idea that Palestinians, refugees without adequate food, water, human rights, shelter, nationality, provisions or livelihood, can all be considered unworthy - not human enough to be valued - that you would condone killing them all because some of them object to their state of affairs, while you sit at home, having never been part of the Israel Palestine conflict, having never had reason to despise these people other than your own bias, shows me that you are at best an evil person, at worst a warmonger.

You are sick. You're sick with a virus, like a hatred that's spread around America.

I remember, over ten years ago, maybe before 9/11, that the archetype of an American civilian was a person of value, of non-bias, heroism, who deliberated rightly about the consequences of a decision, an admirable noble character. What happened?

Honestly, what I have seen from the start of this thread is so far from unbiased, fair, noble or right. I struggle to believe that people genuinely are so dark and cynical.

ANY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF FROM ATTACK!

You, sir are a troll for the Muslims, since in your eyes they are always the victims.

 

[PennEd]

The idea that Palestinians, refugees without adequate food, water, human rights, shelter, nationality, provisions or livelihood, can all be considered unworthy - not human enough to be valued - that you would condone killing them all because some of them object to their state of affairs, while you sit at home, having never been part of the Israel Palestine conflict, having never had reason to despise these people other than your own bias, shows me that you are at best an evil person, at worst a warmonger.

You are sick. You're sick with a virus, like a hatred that's spread around America.

I remember, over ten years ago, maybe before 9/11, that the archetype of an American civilian was a person of value, of non-bias, heroism, who deliberated rightly about the consequences of a decision, an admirable noble character. What happened?

What happened was, because of the hatred of American prosperity and freedom, and an inability to let people worship whom they please, Muslim terrorists, (redundant, I know) on order of the quran, hijacked airplanes and murdered 3000 men, women and children, in the hope that they would be rewarded with 72 virgins who would fulfill their every sexual desire for eternity.

Does that answer your question?

 

[Esanta]

PennEd, let's put this all in perspective. Let's do that.

Osama Bin Laden, was formerly a member of a US-backed group called the Mujahideen. This group fought against the Russians in the Afghan-Soviet war. Bin Laden founded a mechanics company close to the end of the war, then helped form Al Qaeda, originally a group committed to backing the many Arab states involved in defensive wars against potential invaders by giving them military equipment and soldiers.

Not so long after, the US government gave Saddam Hussein permission to invade Kuwait to avenge a large-scale theft of Iraqi oil by the Kuwaitis. Notice that NONE of these wars are inherently America's business, but all the same, they are involved in all of them somehow. Anyway, Saddam had stationed forces on the Saudi border, and the Saudi royal family felt threatened by the whole scenario. Bin Laden offered to help defend Saudi Arabia, an offer which the Saudis refused after American coercion.

The Americans soon turned on their word, denounced Saddam's invasion of Kuwait and invaded Iraq, stationing a large number of troops near Medina and after several public statements by Bin Laden against the Saudis, he was banished from the country. This kind of thing also happened with the Iraqi Iranian war. America gave their blessing to Saddam, then used the death toll to further demonize him after 9/11.

Anyway, Bin Laden moved to Sudan, as the Sudanese chair for a British construction firm. He built roads, houses, and other infrastructures using his machinery and employees made up mostly of his comrades from the Mujahideen. He was reported to be a very kind, generous man and was extremely popular with the Sudanese people at the time.

Meanwhile in Egypt, Mubarak was being targeted by Egyptian extremists reportedly funded by the CIA to overthrow the man. Several members of this extremist group were former Mujahideen.

Now the Americans were instrumental in destabilization, political manoeuvring and backhanding at every turn, while Bin Laden was, at that time, certainly not the nutjob he is seen as today. He was a respected member of a British firm, ex-leader of a US-backed military that managed to fend off the Russians, and a man well liked by the people of the country he lived in.

It wasn't long after the end of the first Gulf War that the Americans pushed for Bin Laden's exile from Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and such.

This back-handedness, use and discard, has been part of American military policy for decades. There isn't a country in the Middle East the US haven't been involved in. Iraq and Afghanistan, two countries where the US backed war, then declared war, pushed and pulled, destroyed and divided.

Of course, many people felt aggrieved about it.

A long ways down the line, on September 11th, 2001, a group of 19 extremist hijackers from a fairly small group of international terrorists crashed planes into two US buildings, horrifically killing 3000 civilians. The leader, reported by US media to be Bin Laden, was international enemy number 1.

The US responded to these terrorists, who had a leader banished in half the Arab countries who has inherently no nationality or royal right, by declaring war in Afghanistan. The invasion began by bombing water supplies, electrical grids, power stations, cutting food supplies. Even though the Afghan leaders denounced Bin Laden and ordered him to leave the country, Bush instigated a full-scale war on them, killing more civilians than militants.

By 2003 there are hundreds of thousands of civvy deaths (somehow justified by 3000??) and Bush then decides to declare war on Iraq and find Saddam's WMD's. We all know what happened there.

We're now in 2014, with close to a million civvy deaths, worldwide destabilization, American instigated revolutions in Egypt, Mubarak is dead, the same Egyptian terrorists the US were after years ago are now part of an anti-coup party, Gadaffi is dead too, US or US-linked companies own the majority of Iraqi oil, no WMD's were found, Bin Laden is dead and the US hit-list of terrorist targets is multiple times larger than it was at the start of it all. That list also includes women and children.

You tell me who the terrorist is.

 

[Esanta]

ANY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF FROM ATTACK!

You, sir are a troll for the Muslims, since in your eyes they are always the victims.

The victims are innocents, of which Israel have killed considerably more than Hamas.