Did God Tell Hosea to Marry a Prostitute?

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posthuman

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Your not getting it, my friend. The latter half of the verse fills in that detail when it says FOR (i.e. Because) the land hath committed great whoredom departing from the Lord.
and right in the middle of the sentence is a big glossy word called "because"

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posthuman

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personally, i'm a big fan of redemption.

very meaningful IMHO.
 
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guess who broke the covenant, God or Israel?

guess who was unfaithful, Hosea or Gomer?

now you're catching on :)
Again with a parallel that doesn't match exactly. That still does not explain the morality of the issue.
 
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personally, i'm a big fan of redemption.

very meaningful IMHO.
There is no redemption unless a person repents of their sins. But if God told someone to marry an unrepentant unbeliever that kind of destroys that message.
 

JaumeJ

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I know Gomer wed Hosea, and they had children, but I cannot find where she was unrepentant.

As long as we are attempting to understand, it would seem if a woman who was a whore married a prophet of Yahweh, she would become his flesh, and she would obey her husband even in his faith. This is only my assessment of what I attempt to understand, and it is not contention. God bless you always.

There is no redemption unless a person repents of their sins. But if God told someone to marry an unrepentant unbeliever that kind of destroys that message.
 

posthuman

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Again with a parallel that doesn't match exactly. That still does not explain the morality of the issue.

if you don't like the signs God gives His people, that's something you need to sort out with God, not me.

good night.
 
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Yes, and I'll tell you why....

The very fact that you are shocked is why- God got across His point. You see, everything done spiritually in the new testament had to be done physically in the old testament. The church is the bride of Christ (God). And what do we do as His bride? We cheat on Him, we fail Him time and again. Yet He still "stays married" to us. Also in the old testament they sacrificed a lamb. Imagine looking into the eyes of a sweet little innocent lamb, pure without spot or blemish. and slaying it and setting it on fire. We need to understand how Christ is the Lamb of God sacrificed for all. Jesus often taught in parables- comparing physical things to spiritual meanings. We needed to understand how awful we are to God (our husband so-to-speak) and therefore God had to give us a physical example of the spiritual meaning.
 
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homwardbound

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That's why I believe the KJV is correct and the Modern Translations are wrong about this passage in Hosea. The Modern Translations change the passage to make God look like the bad guy. But this is wrong, though.

Side Note:

Now, if you believe it isn't wrong for God to tell Hosea to marry a prostitute, then you need to show us in Scripture how it is not wrong on a moral level.
No matter what another views, you or anyone here or there, Yeweh is the only one righteous, ever and ever forever, even if it is viewed the way you view it said or not.
Do you believe this, Father, Yeweh is the only one good?
 

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Okay, if everyone believes God told Hosea to marry a prostitute (Which is no doubt influenced by their reading of that verse in Modern Translations), then please explain to me the morality behind such an action. I don't see it as being moral and good. Please help explain it to me using the Scriptures of how such a thing can be good.

In other words, I believe people are doing gymnastics with the definition of the words involved and are not really thinking with their heart and or what is morally correct. Explain to me how God telling Hosea to marry a prostitute is a good thing?

For what fellowship does light have with darkness?
Light is Yeweh, darkness is flesh an bone, born after the similitude of Adam. Today thanks to Christ, Yeshua, we in unredeemed flesh re made alive in Spirit and truth of Yeweh. So n flesh w are darkness. In Spirit and truth through Yeshua we are made one in the light So what fellowship dos Yeweh have with darkness. None,, so be dead to carnal nature you think? Romans 6
 

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I am willing to listen. Please explain their words to me again in as few sentences as possible (using Scripture) as to an answer behind the morality of God's decision of telling Hosea to marry a prostitute. Do you think God's morality changes with the passage of time? Does not God's Word tell us today to not have fellowship with unbelievers? For how does the NT verse that asks the question, what fellowship has light with darkness?
So tell me why Jesus had fellowship with sinners and prostitutes?
 

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"Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, ..." (1 Thessalonians 5:14).

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
So are you unruly, self-righteous, or an ambassador for Yeweh's righteousness? Is Father the only one righteous ever? Can Father do anything Father wants to without your or anyone's consent?
 

homwardbound

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"Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, ..." (1 Thessalonians 5:14).

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
I exhort the Love of Father that no flesh can understand, is only reveled in Spirit and truth, no other way John 4:24
 

homwardbound

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I agree. But that does not answer the morality of the issue of God telling Hosea to marry a practicing prostitute, though.
Why does it need to be explained? It does not make God unrighteous? Does it?
For even as Christ said in Matthew 19 the rich man, why call me good for only my Father is good
Scripture is in truth for truth is spiritually discerned from Yeweh to his Children.
I see need to decipher the truth in what ad why God told Hosea to do what God told Hosea to do

If it were the day of Abraham and Abraham told you that God told him to kill his Son. How would you react? God is Faithful and God came through and stopped Abram did God not.
No man understands the ways of God, so Faith in God is all that is left. To trust God no matter what, it appears to look like is key you think?
 

homwardbound

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I understand there is a spiritual message. For one, I do not agree with the spiritual parallel exactly. Israel as God's chosen nation was not unfaithful at it's creation as a nation by God. Second, it still does not explain the moral issue of God telling Hosea to marry a prostitute, either.
To show Israel's Adultery, and repentance to come into pay, do you hear and see now, we are given in Christ ears new to hear and new eyes to see in Spirit and truth
 
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I know Gomer wed Hosea, and they had children, but I cannot find where she was unrepentant.

As long as we are attempting to understand, it would seem if a woman who was a whore married a prophet of Yahweh, she would become his flesh, and she would obey her husband even in his faith. This is only my assessment of what I attempt to understand, and it is not contention. God bless you always.
No. The New Testament says that we are not to have fellowship with unbelievers.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

It's why He led the Israelites out of slavery to Egypt. God wanted them to be separate and a holy people. God does not change in his moral character and or when it comes to moral laws.
 
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homwardbound

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Hosea 1:2 is saying she was merely one woman amongst a group of an idolaterous people because it clarifies that point in the end of the verse. It says a children of whoredoms, and then it says for the land (not Gomer) had committed great whoredoms, departing from the Lord.



I don't think it is funny to poke fun at the goodness or morality of the Lord our God. I believe this is a very serious matter that is not to be taken lightly. People are just blindly accepting that God can do evil and they are unable to explain it. They are hiding behind a spiritual parallel as to their answer and not really answering the moral issue of it.
It appears to me you might be mixing Spirit of God and flesh. using your Moral compass of flesh? Is there a view by flesh and a view in Spirit of God
You seem passionate, what about compassion?
Which is of flesh and which is of Father?
 
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So tell me why Jesus had fellowship with sinners and prostitutes?
To heal them and to get them to repent of their sins and to accept Him as their Savior. This is not a one time event either. We do not say, God I am sorry, and then continue on with our life as if nothing ever happened either. There has to be a change in a person's life if they are saved. For God (Christ) is the source of salvation. The fruits of the Spirit is the proof in the pudding that God lives within a person and that they have salvation. No God. No fruit from God (or changed life). No salvation.

Please read the "Condemnation" in John 3:19-21. For men did not receive the Light because they loved the darkness of their own evil deeds. You can't be saved if you are still walking in darkness. It's not possible. 1 John 1:5-9 refutes such thinking.

That is why God could not tell Hosea to marry an unbeliever who was still in the practice of sinning against God (thru prostitution). For if you had a vision from God telling you to marry a prostitute (that was still desiring to be a prostitute), would you do it? Would you use Hosea to justify your position?
 
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It appears to me you might be mixing Spirit of God and flesh. using your Moral compass of flesh? Is there a view by flesh and a view in Spirit of God
You seem passionate, what about compassion?
Which is of flesh and which is of Father?
My guess is that you believe in "Once Saved Always Saved." Which is why most folks do not really have a problem with this passage in Hosea. For there is no morality in OSAS. It is a doctrine of devils. A doctrine of turning the grace of our God into a license for immorality (Jude 1:4 NIV).
 
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I know Gomer wed Hosea, and they had children, but I cannot find where she was unrepentant.

As long as we are attempting to understand, it would seem if a woman who was a whore married a prophet of Yahweh, she would become his flesh, and she would obey her husband even in his faith. This is only my assessment of what I attempt to understand, and it is not contention. God bless you always.
In fact, the concept of 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (Which tells us to not have fellowship with unbelievers) is actually taken from the Old Testament. Here is a compilation of verses (as a whole) that expresses that thought:


  1. 'I will give them a heart to know Me, for I am the LORD; and they will be My people, and I will be their God, for they will return to Me with their whole heart. (Jeremiah 24:7)
  2. "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. (Jeremiah 31:33)
    "They shall be My people, and I will be their God; (Jeremiah 32:38)
    that they may walk in My statutes and keep My ordinances and do them. Then they will be My people, and I shall be their God. (Ezekiel 11:20)
    in order that the house of Israel may no longer stray from Me and no longer defile themselves with all their transgressions. Thus they will be My people, and I shall be their God,"' declares the Lord GOD." (Ezekiel 14:11)
    "They will no longer defile themselves with their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. And they will be My people, and I will be their God. (Ezekiel 37:23)
    "My dwelling place also will be with them; and I will be their God, and they will be My people. (Ezekiel 37:27)
    and I will bring them back and they will live in the midst of Jerusalem; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God in truth and righteousness.' (Zechariah 8:8)
    "FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS, AND I WILL WRITE THEM ON THEIR HEARTS. AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. (Hebrews 8:10)
  3. 'Hence I have said to you, "You are to possess their land, and I Myself will give it to you to possess it, a land flowing with milk and honey." I am the LORD your God, who has separated you from the peoples. (Leviticus 20:24)
    "When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel. (Deuteronomy 32:8)
    "For You have separated them from all the peoples of the earth as Your inheritance, as You spoke through Moses Your servant, when You brought our fathers forth from Egypt, O Lord GOD." (1 Kings 8:53)
  4. The sons of Israel who returned from exile and all those who had separated themselves from the impurity of the nations of the land to join them, to seek the LORD God of Israel, ate the Passover. (Ezra 6:21)

For 2 Corinthians 6:16 also makes a reference to the Old Testament prophecies that God will put His laws into the hearts of believers and "I will be their God, and they will be My people." (c.f. Jeremiah 24:7).


Source:
Is it Okay for a Christian to Marry a Non Christian? What is Unequally Yoked?
(Note: I do not believe in all the view expressed by the author of this website; Especially their false view on creation).
 
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