should the age of consent be 14 or 15?

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Was wondering about peoples opinions on this. Had a rather heated discussion in the bible study room last nite and was wondering what other peoples opinions are. When I was 15 I dated a 25 year old man for a year and included sexual relations. Her pursued me for over a year before we got together. Hind sight is 20 20 but now at 40 I can see where I was manipulated and pressed into a relationship with someone who initially I had no interest in. What was said in the room is that equal responsiblity should be placed on the 14 / 15 year old for their part in the relationship. When I was 15 I was seeking love in the wrong places. To me I was a CHILD... even in development and I should have been protected, not only by the system but buy my family as well. I was manipulated by someone very skilled in this area. It is my opinion that the age of consent should be at least 16 and there should definitely be strict rules with regards to age gaps between a 14/15 year and their choosen boyfriend. My thoughts are a 14/15 year old should not be with anyone over the age of 20 & a decade gap is just too much of a gap. Your thoughts?
 
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What was said in the room is that equal responsiblity should be placed on the 14 / 15 year old for their part in the relationship.
I agree the age of consent ahould be 16 at the lowest but in reality it's just a number that doesn't hold teenagers back, in broad terms it is an unenforcable law, there's a lot of different things need to be done to help deal with the issue of teenagers having sex.

But to address what I took from your post, I have to disagree with that statement and agree with you, in a relationship with an older person no 14/15 year old can be expected to take equal responisbility, you know it is a major feature of being a teenager to *think* you are mature as those adults around you, but everyone knows better when they are older, no matter what the feeling a 14/15 year old has, they are, in an emotional sense relating to romantic relationships, a child and largely unaware of many important things, they cannot be held to have equal responsibility in a relationship when their partner is past 20 years and has life experience.

An adult body does not equal an adult mind.
 
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Age of consent huh??? Marriage is the only age of consent. anyone with a good common sense should know that sex is a no no except for marraige. I never got saved and born again until I was 38. Yet I knew all along that right is right and wrong is wrong I guess my mom raised me with a good conscience . Jesus can and will satisfy all your desires if you will let him. Sex is just the works of the flesh even though it does relieve the soul only shallowly for the next day you want it again. Jeusus can satisfy your intire being much more than sex. Marriage should not be until one finishes at least High school. A good bible study on life issues would certainly guide anyone in the proper way.
 
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Was wondering about peoples opinions on this. Had a rather heated discussion in the bible study room last nite and was wondering what other peoples opinions are. When I was 15 I dated a 25 year old man for a year and included sexual relations. Her pursued me for over a year before we got together. Hind sight is 20 20 but now at 40 I can see where I was manipulated and pressed into a relationship with someone who initially I had no interest in. What was said in the room is that equal responsiblity should be placed on the 14 / 15 year old for their part in the relationship. When I was 15 I was seeking love in the wrong places. To me I was a CHILD... even in development and I should have been protected, not only by the system but buy my family as well. I was manipulated by someone very skilled in this area. It is my opinion that the age of consent should be at least 16 and there should definitely be strict rules with regards to age gaps between a 14/15 year and their choosen boyfriend. My thoughts are a 14/15 year old should not be with anyone over the age of 20 & a decade gap is just too much of a gap. Your thoughts?

The age of concent should when your married.
 

Kathleen

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although i do firmly belive that sexual relations should only occur with married couples.
i know and understand what u mean and you arent looking for answers like - wiat until marrige-

so ill say this:

in this generation, my one, things in the world have completly changed since when you were in school.
when you were 15, you probably were child like. But in this generation, i am experienceing schooling in this millenium and i assure you, it is nothin like what you would remember.
I know plenty of 40/50 year olds that are actually in shock when i tell them what goes on in my school.
Schools now adays :
in science in the UK, when a child is 11... recives free condoms
and is taught how to put them on, using a dildo.
in many of my classes - the central talk is about masterbabtion, sex ect ect
the world now adays in definitly allot diffrent now adays in comparison to when you were in school.

so i would say that now adays - a 14 year old, that is perticapating voulunterily in a sexual act, knows fully well what he/she is doing.
 
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so i would say that now adays - a 14 year old, that is perticapating voulunterily in a sexual act, knows fully well what he/she is doing.
I understand your points Kathleen but there is a key difference, kids are taught about sex at a younger age and how to use condoms etc.. that's a factual education only, not an emotional one, emotional maturity, understanding and strength comes primarily from experiencing life and coming through those experiences with understanding of what has occured.

Now while a teenager might understand what they are doing in terms of the act they are engaging in they are not neccesarily able to comprehend the emotional factors and how it will affect their mind in the coming days even of they know how it will affect their body.

The education may be different now versus 20, 30 or 40 years ago, but the people haven't, they are still the same young people who know only a fraction of what this life entails.
 
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I understand your points Kathleen but there is a key difference, kids are taught about sex at a younger age and how to use condoms etc.. that's a factual education only, not an emotional one, emotional maturity, understanding and strength comes primarily from experiencing life and coming through those experiences with understanding of what has occured.

Now while a teenager might understand what they are doing in terms of the act they are engaing in they are not neccesarily able to comprehend the emotional factors and how it will affect their mind in the coming days even of they know how it will affect their body.

The education may be different now versus 20, 30 or 40 years ago, but the people haven't, they are still the same young people who know only a fraction of what this life entails.

i disagree i think tthat people 20,30 and 40 years ago..their mind was not as polluted as what it is now. You should hear the filth of the people in school these days.
A girl in my year became pregnant when she was 11 - she had an abortion just as her bump started to appear.
Another girl, Tara, carries a condom about in her purse.
i am telling you, to have sex now adays is like a milestone, you try and do it before all your friends.
the girl that had the abortion just talked about how great the sex was.
i am telling you, my brother is as old as you , and even he is shocked at how the kids behave!
they might not be away of the physical or emoptional factors that may be the result of perticapating in sexual acts but that doesnt stop them.
 
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i disagree i think tthat people 20,30 and 40 years ago..their mind was not as polluted as what it is now. You should hear the filth of the people in school these days.
A girl in my year became pregnant when she was 11 - she had an abortion just as her bump started to appear.
Another girl, Tara, carries a condom about in her purse.
i am telling you, to have sex now adays is like a milestone, you try and do it before all your friends.
the girl that had the abortion just talked about how great the sex was.
i am telling you, my brother is as old as you , and even he is shocked at how the kids behave!
they might not be away of the physical or emoptional factors that may be the result of perticapating in sexual acts but that doesnt stop them.
I'm not quite sure what your point is, that reality doesn't shock me at all, I know very well what goes among teenagers and how sex is treated, all I'm saying is that while teenagers your age understand the act of sex they don't understand the emotional consequence of sex, but an adult of 20+ years does and therefore there cannot be equal responsibility on both in a relationship, there is a disparity in emotional maturity.
 

Kathleen

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i disagree
i know full well what it could do to me...

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i disagree
i know full well what it could do to me...

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Perhaps you do, but not all teenagers do, and that's the point, far more don't understand than do.

Think a little outside yourself.
 
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I think 16 is a reasonable age for consent, though if it were changed I would insist that the age at which one can marry should be lowered alongside it.

The only real problem with the age of consent law is when a 16 year old sleeps with a 15 year old and technically speaking he would be guilty of statuatory rape. It's a bizzare set up, but I suppose that's why we have judges to interpret the law.
 

Kathleen

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i am thinking ourside my self

i am telling u from my surroding that all the girls are happy about it

all the boys are happy about it

they think - great at last ive lost my virginity

no one thinks about the emotional side - coz it is nothin to fear, to them sex is just a moment of pleasure

so dont say i am only thinkn about muself.
 
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i am thinking ourside my self

i am telling u from my surroding that all the girls are happy about it

all the boys are happy about it

they think - great at last ive lost my virginity

no one thinks about the emotional side - coz it is nothin to fear, to them sex is just a moment of pleasure

so dont say i am only thinkn about muself.
O.K. then we disagree, but if you care to read what I wrote I never said you were only thinking about yourself, I said think outside yourself, a very different thing, don't misunderstand me.
 

Kathleen

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think outside yourself means ur oly thinking about yourself
 
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think outside yourself means ur oly thinking about yourself
No it does not, think outside yourself means to consider not only your situation but that of others as well, it means consider a wider context, that's all.
All it means is that sometimes we don't all think in broader terms, not neccesarily that we are only thinking only of ourselves.
 

Kathleen

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and i gave examples and spoke about people at school....

it was not primarily bases around myself.
 
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I don't think the age matters. I mean place it at 12 and you'll have 8 year olds doing it. It would be something very hard to enforce. But if it were me, I'd make it 16.
 
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I think 16 is a reasonable age for consent, though if it were changed I would insist that the age at which one can marry should be lowered alongside it.

The only real problem with the age of consent law is when a 16 year old sleeps with a 15 year old and technically speaking he would be guilty of statuatory rape. It's a bizzare set up, but I suppose that's why we have judges to interpret the law.
I agree with everything you said. The age of consent is 18 where I live, but I think 16 is a reasonable age also.
 
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i disagree
i know full well what it could do to me...

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Exactly how i would have responded at your age. I thought I knew all things then. BTW I wasnt a Christian at the time and contrary to what you all might think, most of my peers were having sex, it just wasnt condoned or taught by our adults. Yes, we too packed condoms and went on the pill at 14. You may think you are sophisticated and knowledgeable at 15 as I did but truly, I think that when it comes to hooking up with someone over 5 years older than you, there should be someone who steps in and says NO this is not ok. A 14 or 15 year old is vulnerable to someone who has the life experience of a 26 year old. This is what i'm saying. Note, I started smoking at 8... I was a problem child lets say but still deserved protection from this older more sophisticated man who knew exactly how to play me to steal my innocence.
 
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The age of consent should be the age of marriage, and I so much wish that I would have waited. I would give anything to go back and do it all again the right way, the way that God intended me to do it. If you had been through all the things that I have in my life, you would understand that nothing is more sacred then marriage, and being faithful to your spouse.