Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[Mitspa]

Actually yes. Two people, a Calvinist historian and philosophy teacher and a Lutheran minister.

So you want us to believe that a Calvinist and a Lutheran helped convert you to the RCC? Friend that's a little hard to believe?

 

[Mitspa]

I know this site is in dire need of donation, but as for me, I refuse to give any of my hard earned money to a site that hates members of the Catholic church. I instead will donate to the Catholic church and to those families who do not have much. My hard earned money is my money and I can save or spend it however I want.

How much was you going to give? Maybe we can make up the difference?

 

[Jeff_56]

remember that God says in His Word that no one can be a friend of the world and of God at the same time.


also, perhaps it skipped most peoples attention for the last hundred years:

guess who infiltrated lutheran and calvinist seminaries or bible schools or organizations , with 'spies' (literally) who had the sole purpose of turning as many as possible in that group AWAY FROM SEEKING THE WAY TO TRUTH, back to the mother of harlots .... guess who......
and to do it as if that group wanted to return to spiritual fornication in the first place..... very insidious.....

only a few congregations were not deceived. and/or a few people in various places.

So you want us to believe that a Calvinist and a Lutheran helped convert you to the RCC? Friend that's a little hard to believe?

 

[GaryA]

The Bread of Life Discourse, the High Priestly Prayer, Paul's exposition on the Eucharist, Revelation 12, Matthew 16, John 20, the Epistle of James, and much more. All of these verses began to speak of a closer relationship with Christ, not through my doing, but through His. Truthfully, I found the Sacraments, the veneration of Saints and relics, and Apostolic succession in Scripture. That's when my search for the Church with those beliefs began. Then in Scripture comes a papacy, an infallible ecumenical council in the Book of Acts.

I believe that, somehow, you have "completely missed the whole point of the council of God in scripture" -- which teaches that absolutely nothing - no one and no thing - in existance - is infallible - except for God Himself.

 

[Shyness]

Also, this thread proves nothing shows how some people who have no life and who have nothing better to do than sit on the computer all day and spread hate to those who are members of the Catholic church.

 

[Shyness]

And also, hating on others including members of the Catholic church has no reward and will not get you anywhere in life. Nothing good comes out of it and you are not doing yourself any good whatsoever. In fact this thread here and many of the people who are hating on the members of the Catholic church are no better than members of the KuKluxKlan. There is no such thing as good hate. All hatred is evil no matter what form it is in.

 

[Jeff_56]

someone who is not shy, and says they are, hmmmmm........
like someone who is not a servant of Jesus, nor even a representative of Jesus, and says they are .... hmmmm......

since, historically, the catholic church has executed many many many more innocent people
than the kkk and the taliban combined, and destroyed many many many more souls,

why would any sensible person try to defend it ?

God is Love, God is Truth, God is Merciful, and gives everyone a chance to be saved from sin. Now is a good time.

 

[Stephen63]

Here's something I stumbled into on the internet..... very informative/with evidence. I hope it has a positive influence on those seeking for truth.
Here's the site URL for the full video:
http://yah-tube.com/videos/veith/214B_A_New_Order_Rises/index.html

[video=youtube;h1ghdnlU41k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ghdnlU41k[/video]
Kinda gives new meaning to the phrase, "All roads lead to Rome", doesn't it?

If anyone would like to add more info/videos to validate this one, feel free to do so. I believe much can be learned if we honestly seek for the truth.

(Disclaimer: This thread is not to bash catholics, nor do we welcome/encourage others to come in & do it. This is only to get to the real truth)

 

[Mitspa]

This guy is a SDA...not much difference between having a false prophet named Ellen G white and one called the pope to me? In fact these guys attack the catholics with all sorts of made of stuff only to hide there errors of their own group.

 

[Jackson123]

And also, hating on others including members of the Catholic church has no reward and will not get you anywhere in life. Nothing good comes out of it and you are not doing yourself any good whatsoever. In fact this thread here and many of the people who are hating on the members of the Catholic church are no better than members of the KuKluxKlan. There is no such thing as good hate. All hatred is evil no matter what form it is in.

If you see your son walk toward abyss and you try to stop him is that hatred?

To me it is love.

If you see your son walk toward abyss and you not stop him, it is hatred.

Catholic is lie to you brother. She said Pope is infallible so you trust him when he lie to you.

Before 1964 I never heard about Islam is include in the plan of salvation and Islam adore the same God with Catholic.


What I heard is there is no salvation out side the Church/ RCC.

Now Islam is away outside RCC and it save.

Which Pope is infallible. The pope that teach there is no salvation out of Catholic Church? or resent Pope.

If 2 group of Popes teach 2 different teaching, One must be fallible, how you explain both infallible.

 

[Stephen63]

This guy is a SDA...not much difference between having a false prophet named Ellen G white and one called the pope to me? In fact these guys attack the catholics with all sorts of made of stuff only to hide there errors of their own group.

I checked..... he is SDA. Imagine a SDA knowing more about this than most christians. There are also sinners that teach things that agree with him. It's all over the internet. Yet many of the church still have their heads in the sand.

 

[didymos]

Plus there is so much negative energy and darkness here that it is extremely depressing.

... So what's makes you stay then?
Do yourself (and others who DO appreciate this site) a favour will ya? Just leave.

 

[Mitspa]

I checked..... he is SDA. Imagine a SDA knowing more about this than most christians. There are also sinners that teach things that agree with him. It's all over the internet. Yet many of the church still have their heads in the sand.

I have listened to some of the stuff they put out about the RCC...some of its true but some of it is just stuff they make-up and the intention is to draw people into there own deception....I would be careful listing to these guys they have a spirit of error just as strong as the RCC.

 

[Stephen63]

2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.”

I am one who needs more than the "mouth of two or three witnesses" to believe something is true or not.
That said, I've read in the Bible of a false prophet named Balaam who prophesied the blessings of God on Israel & also of a donkey in the same book that spoke the truth as well to him. It proves that God uses who He pleases.

As a critic trained the hard way by family as well as the church, I will believe saint or sinner if they have the facts right. I'll say this...... I believe sinners easier than I do christians that criticize people at the drop of a hat.

 

[didymos]

... I believe sinners easier than I do christians that criticize people at the drop of a hat.

There's no difference between the two, we're all sinners. (Rom 3:23)
So you might as well listen to christians, at least we know of redemption in Christ Jesus. (Eph 1:7)

 

[ChristIsGod]

There's no difference between the two, we're all sinners. (Rom 3:23)
So you might as well listen to christians, at least we know of redemption in Christ Jesus. (Eph 1:7)

Depends on the Christian, of whether we should listen to him. If he's nasty from the onset of you meeting him, I don't feel there's anything more to listen to. Attacking us because we believe in 'obedience' to God's Word and saying that we have a "works salvation" and being nasty about it, is not one who I would feel is anymore sympathetic to Catholics or Jews that do depend on works ... so this sudden sympathy for the RCC is a bit out of character and though he'll pick on protestants that believe in 'obedience' once a person has come to Christ by faith and attacking them ... How could said person truly have any pathos for those who call anyone that believes in Salvation by grace through faith "Anathema" and yet pick on protestants and fight with them over obedience and falsely accuse them of things that they hadn't said.

Beats me, but before I joined here, I appreciated seeing this OP and thread. My closest family members and the majority that live in this community where I live are catholic and I can't do enough for them and there's lots of retired nuns living in this community of 55 and over folk and I do whatever I can to get their mail, take their garbage out - anything that they need done, because I love these people and I believe that it's love that wins souls.

I appreciate Stephen's video for many reasons and the mention of the RCC is not as much as I thought it would be. And he's saying the same thing that most all of the commentators wrote since the Reformation.

Hard history sometimes needs to be brought out and the Vatican owns a large part of Jerusalem and that's their end-goal, as well as a bunch of others that want a world governance and to eventually seat their world powers there.

Don't you think we need to know about these things .... though there's nothing we can do to stop it but we can avoid getting caught up in a deception that's on it's way soon enough.

 

[Mitspa]

2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.”

I am one who needs more than the "mouth of two or three witnesses" to believe something is true or not.
That said, I've read in the Bible of a false prophet named Balaam who prophesied the blessings of God on Israel & also of a donkey in the same book that spoke the truth as well to him. It proves that God uses who He pleases.

As a critic trained the hard way by family as well as the church, I will believe saint or sinner if they have the facts right. I'll say this...... I believe sinners easier than I do christians that criticize people at the drop of a hat.

Yea the devil knows how to use enough truth to deceive folks also...and these guys have no standing in the truth, they where born out of false prophets and remain in the spirit of error. In fact the only truth they seem have...is to point to the errors of the RCC.

 

[Stephen63]

Yea the devil knows how to use enough truth to deceive folks also...and these guys have no standing in the truth, they where born out of false prophets and remain in the spirit of error. In fact the only truth they seem have...is to point to the errors of the RCC.

I say o' man, who are you trying to convince.... me, or to the readers of this thread?

 

[Audacious4Jesus]

more moderators are needed to keep JESUS as LORD and SAVIOR in all areas---- we are to stand FIRM against any heresy--but in LOVE for CHRIST-- and sometimes people get offended but we are not ashamed of the TRUE gospel of CHRIST- and we shall not support anything otherwise--I know I get tired of the entertaining of catholics and of jewish teachings in the BS chat room-
I always thought of this place as a place for true believers to come and fellowship and be edified and encouraged and prayed for--a real family of GOD place-- but we do entertain and cater to the ones who come here to dictate to us their beliefs and it goes on for HOURSSSSSSSS in the bible study chat room- I find it very sad that my brothers would rather argue and debate with these heresies then to encourage me as a sister already in the faith.. what happened to BEING the family of GOD FIRST? the truth is --lots of people LOVE to argue and debate instead of love their family first-- I hope it can change soon--other wise Ill be leaving this site--and I have a feeling that many after me will follow as well because the lack of love toward the already saved--- this is a christian chat site--so I assumed Id be loved and encouraged and be able to grow in faith with like minded people--but ive experienced very little of that---ill keep praying for this site---

 

[notuptome]

more moderators are needed to keep JESUS as LORD and SAVIOR in all areas---- we are to stand FIRM against any heresy--but in LOVE for CHRIST-- and sometimes people get offended but we are not ashamed of the TRUE gospel of CHRIST- and we shall not support anything otherwise--I know I get tired of the entertaining of catholics and of jewish teachings in the BS chat room-
I always thought of this place as a place for true believers to come and fellowship and be edified and encouraged and prayed for--a real family of GOD place-- but we do entertain and cater to the ones who come here to dictate to us their beliefs and it goes on for HOURSSSSSSSS in the bible study chat room- I find it very sad that my brothers would rather argue and debate with these heresies then to encourage me as a sister already in the faith.. what happened to BEING the family of GOD FIRST? the truth is --lots of people LOVE to argue and debate instead of love their family first-- I hope it can change soon--other wise Ill be leaving this site--and I have a feeling that many after me will follow as well because the lack of love toward the already saved--- this is a christian chat site--so I assumed Id be loved and encouraged and be able to grow in faith with like minded people--but ive experienced very little of that---ill keep praying for this site---

So who loves you more? The person who tells you what you want to hear or the person who tells you what you need to hear? It says in the end times there will be those who will not endure sound doctrine but gather to themselves teachers with itching ears.

What greater friend than he who tells you of the Savior and your need to be saved?

For the cause of Christ
Roger