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Evidently then Christ started a cult for Christ commanded works to be saved:
Jn 6:27 "Work...for the meat that endures unto everlasting life."
Mt 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Mt 7:24 "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:"
Jn 3:21 "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
Jn 9:31 "Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth."
God does not acknowledge those who do not worship as He says, that do not do as he says.
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Nowhere does "freedom in Christ" men Christians can do as they please. That is a gross misunderstanding of the passage.
Jn 6:27 "Work...for the meat that endures unto everlasting life."
Mt 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Mt 7:24 "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:"
Jn 3:21 "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
Jn 9:31 "Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth."
God does not acknowledge those who do not worship as He says, that do not do as he says.
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Nowhere does "freedom in Christ" men Christians can do as they please. That is a gross misunderstanding of the passage.
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Prophets. Also categorized by itself within Scripture, but usually lumped in with the Prophets.
When is it ever called the Law?
If you do not understand obedience, start reading the Epistles. You are neglecting the motivations of our works and the causation of our salvation.
So much of this comes from not understanding the Old Covenant. Do you think they were saved by works?
The New Covenant is not simply a revised version of the Old Covenant.
When is it ever called the Law?
If you do not understand obedience, start reading the Epistles. You are neglecting the motivations of our works and the causation of our salvation.
So much of this comes from not understanding the Old Covenant. Do you think they were saved by works?
The New Covenant is not simply a revised version of the Old Covenant.
Jn 10:34 "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?'
Jesus is quoting Psa 82:6 and calls Psalms "law"
In Rom 3:10-18 Paul quotes verses from Psalms and from Isaiah (a prophet) to prove the Jews are sinners as the Gentiles. In verse 19 Paul says "Now we know that what things soever the law saith". Paul refers to all those OT quotes he made in verses 10-18 as "LAW"
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Jn 6:27 "Work...for the meat that endures unto everlasting life."
Mt 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
It's a foregone conclusion salvation is not possible without obedient works. It's really a waste of time to argue this but people will cling to and take comfort in their man-made theologies.
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Yes, those in the OT were justified by their works, James 2:23-25.
Jesus is quoting Psa 82:6 and calls Psalms "law"
In Rom 3:10-18 Paul quotes verses from Psalms and from Isaiah (a prophet) to prove the Jews are sinners as the Gentiles. In verse 19 Paul says "Now we know that what things soever the law saith". Paul refers to all those OT quotes he made in verses 10-18 as "LAW"
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Jn 6:27 "Work...for the meat that endures unto everlasting life."
Mt 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
It's a foregone conclusion salvation is not possible without obedient works. It's really a waste of time to argue this but people will cling to and take comfort in their man-made theologies.
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Yes, those in the OT were justified by their works, James 2:23-25.
The Old Law had nothing to do with instruments so that means you do not read Psalm to uplift your spirit. The Sacred Word(OT/NT) is the breath of ABBA and a Christian cannot disregard the OT that is foundation for NT because remember JESUS was Hebrew that is his culture of worshiping. The Bible is about teachings/instructions how a believer lives ones life with in this world chaos. Music is powerful in a believer life that is probably why some folks in my town think I am crazy because I am always singing praise, dancing, and I have joy. Christians are suppose to give praises, sing, worship, and pray with a loud voice to ABBA. Please do not become dead within your spirit, soul and heart. Look around every culture has music because it brings joy to ones soul and I am speaking joyful music to the soul, mind and heart. Do not allow satan to take your joy, praise, songs within your heart(soul), thanksgiving or prayer with a loud voice. Be Bless with joy in your heart!!
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- As I journey through the land, singing as I go,
Pointing souls to Calvary—to the crimson flow,
Many arrows pierce my soul from without, within;
But my Lord leads me on, through Him I must win.- Refrain:
Oh, I want to see Him, look upon His face,
There to sing forever of His saving grace;
On the streets of glory let me lift my voice,
Cares all past, home at last, ever to rejoice.
- Refrain:
- When in service for my Lord dark may be the night,
But I’ll cling more close to Him, He will give me light;
Satan’s snares may vex my soul, turn my thoughts aside;
But my Lord goes ahead, leads whate’er betide. - When in valleys low I look toward the mountain height,
And behold my Savior there, leading in the fight,
With a tender hand outstretched toward the valley low,
Guiding me, I can see, as I onward go. - When before me billows rise from the mighty deep,
Then my Lord directs my bark; He doth safely keep,
And He leads me gently on through this world below;
He’s a real Friend to me, oh, I love Him so.
You said your worship with musical instruments are "enhancements" to worshiping Him, I would like to know how you get around not calling that a perfect example of "self imposed religion"
Colossians 2:23 (NKJV)
23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
Satisfying your own bellies...
Colossians 2:23 (NKJV)
23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
Satisfying your own bellies...