Myths and Realities about Easter

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No you are not Yahvah God, and why not find out if he see's it right or wrong by reading the Bible.

Let the Bible be right............

Rep power? I am not here to exalt myself, that is why it is turned off...............

"a fool would hate reproof" yes that is true, but the question is : who is the fool?

Speaking the truth means going against the lie, and in this world that is always going to come against ego..

If you come along and speak what people want you to hear, then you may get hugged a lot.
Lift up your eyes I'm not inquiring you as a fool, we all do our foolish things then and again. We know it is not a lie that is in the mouth of the defense, here by I am one of them. Lying against the truth is not what has been taken into any consideration save you the mythical made up tails of the Easter Holiday, which were discovered and labeled as so, shown in this wonderful essay. The admonishment was given that one would reconcile. Not in vanity, with Love.







Seriously Sincere, Gus H. CXXXXX
 

loveme1

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#82
Someone who thinks people are right because they have rep power, is not sincere.

You told me that my rep power was a reflection on what I say being wrong.....


All I have ever said is read the Bible.

Trusting in man's knowledge of events is unsafe, since there is an evil agenda at work, why not stick to the Bible and see if it lines up with our reality.

Are people being deceived?

Most certainly, the truth is infiltrated to lead people into Abominable behaviour...........

The truth is found by those that seek it.....
 

Elizabeth619

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#83
Someone who thinks people are right because they have rep power, is not sincere.

You told me that my rep power was a reflection on what I say being wrong.....


All I have ever said is read the Bible.

Trusting in man's knowledge of events is unsafe, since there is an evil agenda at work, why not stick to the Bible and see if it lines up with our reality.

Are people being deceived?

Most certainly, the truth is infiltrated to lead people into Abominable behaviour...........

The truth is found by those that seek it.....

To me, the rep power is pretty much the same as the new "Like" feature. I was a member for 3 months before I even noticed to whole rep thing. Not everyone will agree. No biggie yours is disabled in my honest opinion.
 

loveme1

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To me, the rep power is pretty much the same as the new "Like" feature. I was a member for 3 months before I even noticed to whole rep thing. Not everyone will agree. No biggie yours is disabled in my honest opinion.
When people use like to support a member that calls out another member and offers hugs for doing so, I think we can take little notice of how many likes we have...............................

My honest opinion.

I believed you still had me on your ignore list.
 
May 18, 2010
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What makes you think the reality is a lie, the only agenda I've witnessed from the beginning was against the essay. If i pose to be sincere do not break my sincerity, I'd like to pose a question of why should you question the authenticity of this beloved essay? That which we have already established to be pure by discernment of the Spirit, seeing that which is righteous and then also what is wicked. I have testified this to be true... Weather we celebrate Easter for what it is, or choose not to celebrate it for what it is not,.. I am willing to come down to mercy for my beloved sister in Christ.
 

loveme1

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What makes you think the reality is a lie, the only agenda I've witnessed from the beginning was against the essay. If i pose to be sincere do not break my sincerity, I'd like to pose a question of why should you question the authenticity of this beloved essay? That which we have already established to be pure by discernment of the Spirit, seeing that which is righteous and then also what is wicked. I have testified this to be true... Weather we celebrate Easter for what it is, or choose not to celebrate it for what it is not,.. I am willing to come down to mercy for my beloved sister in Christ.
You pose sincere but your words yesterday we not sincere.

I forgive you for all you have said, I was pointing out anything written by man could be false.

I do not believe Rachel to be knowingly lying, no she is offering research of man's knowledge.

The evil agenda that is shaping our reality will go to great lengths to deceive the people...

And by that they would interfere with history books to keep people from the truth.

That is why I say, does the Bible support the idea of an evil agenda deceiving the people?

Of course you will find knowledge dismissing the paganism of "easter".... they have gone to great lengths to disguise themselves as sheep.....


Peace be with you.
 
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Rachel is not a pagan and the claims and views expressed within this event are with good intent and rightfully depicted, analysed through works inscribed with efforts of time, respectively. In our eyes it is right to enjoy Easter and the face of God is not turned away by the fact. Christ has resurrected and was exalted on high set at the right hand of the Father...For this cause we will rejoice.
 

loveme1

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Rachel is not a pagan and the claims and views expressed within this event are with good intent and rightfully depicted, analysed through works inscribed with efforts of time, respectively. In our eyes it is right to enjoy Easter and the face of God is not turned away by the fact. Christ has resurrected and was exalted on high set at the right hand of the Father...For this cause we will rejoice.

I never said anyone knowingly here was a pagan...

I said that people have been deceived by the pagans....

"In our eyes" Yes, but is it in the eyes of Almighty Yahvah God?

That is the point, we do not do what is right by our own judgement....

Use the Bible to see what is Abominable to our Heavenly Father.

We learn to obey and please Almighty Yahvah God.

Unfortunately many have not received this understanding and believe they can judge what they can and can't do..
 

Elizabeth619

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When people use like to support a member that calls out another member and offers hugs for doing so, I think we can take little notice of how many likes we have...............................

My honest opinion.

I believed you still had me on your ignore list.

I took you off a few days ago. We may not agree, but I can also handle my own actions better when we disagree. :)
 
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I never said anyone knowingly here was a pagan...

I said that people have been deceived by the pagans....

"In our eyes" Yes, but is it in the eyes of Almighty Yahvah God?

That is the point, we do not do what is right by our own judgement....

Use the Bible to see what is Abominable to our Heavenly Father.

We learn to obey and please Almighty Yahvah God.

Unfortunately many have not received this understanding and believe they can judge what they can and can't do..
So then, now that we've come thus far, where does the bible say that celebrating the resurrection of Christ is abominable? I'd sure like to see that. And where do you get the word ''yahvah'' at all, I never fail to see new un-biblical names of Christ arise out of the blue.
 
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You pose sincere but your words yesterday we not sincere.

I forgive you for all you have said, I was pointing out anything written by man could be false.

I do not believe Rachel to be knowingly lying, no she is offering research of man's knowledge.

The evil agenda that is shaping our reality will go to great lengths to deceive the people...

And by that they would interfere with history books to keep people from the truth.

That is why I say, does the Bible support the idea of an evil agenda deceiving the people?

Of course you will find knowledge dismissing the paganism of "easter".... they have gone to great lengths to disguise themselves as sheep.....


Peace be with you.
Simply put the Bible offers and supports none of the supposed facts that you or others have perpetuated against Easter. Saying that Rachel's' factual research is "man's knowledge" is simply another way of saying "History doesn't support me so history must be wrong".
 
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Simply put the Bible offers and supports none of the supposed facts that you or others have perpetuated against Easter. Saying that Rachel's' factual research is "man's knowledge" is simply another way of saying "History doesn't support me so history must be wrong".
In supportive agreement to the above statement, I'd like to elaborate in such a manor, there is a strong bond among the many in favor of the celebration of the Easter Holiday. For this much am I found grateful of. On this wise we speak from the hidden mythical splits intertwined in the facts of history earlier uncovered and revealed to us,..we should then see it enlightening and eye opening rejoicing at the fact that we can celebrate Easter without the pagan roots having any involvement or any effectiveness in our decision to rejoice every year on the day our God has risen.
 
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Simply put the Bible offers and supports none of the supposed facts that you or others have perpetuated against Easter. Saying that Rachel's' factual research is "man's knowledge" is simply another way of saying "History doesn't support me so history must be wrong".
which is ironic since the 'easter is pagan' myths start out by appealing to history in the first place...such as unbiblical fairy tales about nimrod and human sacrifice to ishtar...

but then history is no longer important to them once it is shown that the historical items they have appealed to are purely made up...
 
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i wrote this essay hoping that these rumors and misinformation about easter can finally be definitively put to rest here... that probably won't happen...but i can always dream...

MYTHS AND REALITIES ABOUT EASTER

About the Timing of the Crucifixion

MYTH: Jesus died on a Wednesday, not on Good Friday.
REALITY: Jesus died on a Friday. The day was the Day of Preparation, the day before the Sabbath, according to Mark 15:42 and John 19:14,31,42. It has been claimed that this was the day of preparation for a special "high Sabbath" associated with the Passover festival and not the weekly Saturday Sabbath. However Jesus died on the 15th of Nisan according to the Hebrew calendar, since he had just held the Passover seder the night before, the night of the 14th of Nisan. The two special Passover Sabbaths took place on the first day or the 15th of Nisan, and the seventh day or the 21st of Nisan, according to Exodus 12:16, Leviticus 23:7-8, Numbers 28:17,25 and Deuteronomy 16:8. There was no special Sabbath associated with the Passover feast on the 16th of Nisan, the day after Jesus died. If the 15th of Nisan was a day of preparation for a Sabbath, it could have only been for the weekly Saturday Sabbath which happened to fall on the 16th of Nisan that year.
The real source of this myth is a misunderstanding of what was meant by the "three days and three nights" that Jesus spent in the tomb. In ancient Hebrew idiom, "three days and three nights" did not mean seventy-two hours. In fact seventy-two hours was the upper limit for what could constitute "three days and three nights." A "day and night" simply referred to the twenty-four hour timeframe when something took place, regardless of whether the entire twenty-four hour period was taken up by the action. If Jesus died on Friday, around the ninth hour or 3:00 PM as in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34, and was buried before evening that day as in Matthew 27:57, Mark 15:42, and Luke 23:54, then the remaining few hours of Friday would have been counted as the first "day and night." The second "day and night" was Saturday, and when Jesus rose before dawn on Sunday morning he was already about twelve hours into the third "day and night." Friday, Saturday, and Sunday would have been counted as "three days and nights." If Jesus had died on a Wednesday, ancient Jews would have actually counted that as five days in the tomb!

MYTH: Jesus died at the same time as the Passover lambs were being slaughtered.
REALITY: This is an unbiblical tradition that is popular among some Christians, probably because it just seems so appropriate. In reality Jesus died around the ninth hour or 3:00 PM the day after the Passover seder, when the lambs would have been slaughtered at twilight as commanded in Exodus 12:6 and Deuteronomy 16:6. Although this tradition would seem fitting, it is biblically impossible.

About the Name of Easter

MYTH: Easter is named after the Babylonian goddess Ishtar.
REALITY: Easter and Ishtar only sound alike. There is no etymological relationship between the two. Easter is named for the Germanic month when it takes place, Eosturmonath or "dawn month." Ishtar on the other hand was an Akkadian name meaning "she who waters, " referring to her original role as a sky goddess of rain that produced fertile harvests. Easter and Ishtar have about as much in common as "paraklete" and "parakeet."

MYTH: Easter is named after the Germanic goddess Eostre.
REALITY: It is not certain that a Germanic goddess named Eostre even existed. The only historical reference to this goddess is in Bede's "De Temporum Ratione," where he relates that Eosturmonath was named for a goddess called Eostre. Bede himself admitted that Eostre worship was extinct by his time and that he had personally never witnessed it, getting his information from hearsay instead, so the accuracy of his account is doubtful. In fact the widespread scholarly consensus today is that the name Eosturmonath actually comes from the Old Germanic word "eostarum," meaning "dawn," so that Eosturmonath is the "dawn month."

NOTE: Most cultures that celebrate Jesus' resurrection on this day do not even call it Easter. It is usually referred to as "Pascha" or some variation on that name, which is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew term "Pesach," referring to the Passover.

About Easter Customs

MYTH: The egg was a symbol of Ishtar, so Easter eggs have pagan origins.
REALITY: The egg was not a Babylonian symbol of Ishtar at all. Ishtar was represented by lions (for example on the Ishtar Gate in Babylon) and by eight-pointed stars representing the planet Venus. In reality the association of eggs with Easter comes from the fact that eggs were not eaten during the Lenten fast. Eggs were part of the celebration of Easter because they were naturally in surplus when the fast ended and it was permitted to eat them again. In this way Easter was like a reverse Shrove Tuesday. Over time the egg was given another meaning as a symbol of new life given by Jesus' resurrection.

MYTH: The rabbit was a symbol of Ishtar/Tammuz, so the Easter bunny has pagan origins.
REALITY: It is mistakenly assumed that because rabbits breed quickly they must be symbols of Ishtar, a fertility goddess. In fact neither Ishtar nor Tammuz were symbolized by rabbits in Babylonian culture. I have already mentioned the real symbols of Ishtar, and Tammuz was represented by sheep, fish, and birds with broken wings. The association between rabbits and eggs in springtime actually did not appear until the 1600s in the Protestant regions of Europe, starting with a case of mistaken identity. Plover birds commonly take over the nests of hares, and the discovery of plover eggs in hares' nests led to the tradition of a hare leaving behind eggs around Easter time.

MYTH: Eggs were dyed red in the blood of babies sacrificed to Ishtar, so painting Easter eggs has particularly wicked pagan origins.
REALITY: I have already shown that the egg was not a symbol of Ishtar. Furthermore as a fertility goddess Ishtar was worshipped through rites involving sexual intercourse, not human sacrifice. This is actually a very recent rumor, first appearing in 2001 in "The Mystery of Iniquity," a short book written by false teacher and self-proclaimed Messianic Jewish rabbi Michael Rood (on what can be called the "dark side" of the Hebrew Roots movement). Rood provides no citation for this claim and it is apparent that he just made it up. This misinformation found its way onto the Internet around 2005, and had begun to spread slowly by 2007, with the propagation of the rumor picking up dramatically in the past two or three years. The notion that Ishtar worship involved ritual human sacrifice seems to derive from a 1960s horror movie called "Blood Feast," where a psychopath sacrifices his victims to Ishtar, whom the filmmakers had clearly confused with the bloodthirsty Egyptian goddess Sekhmet.
In reality it is likely that the practice of dying Easter eggs red was a reference to the blood of Jesus. Several Christian traditions suggest miraculous origins for the red-colored eggs, but none of these are particularly credible.

About Nimrod and "Semiramis," often Mentioned in Debates about Easter's Origins

MYTH: Nimrod had a wife named Semiramis and a son named Tammuz, and all pagan practices originate from this family.
REALITY: There is no mention of Nimrod in any historical records outside of the Bible. Anything beyond what Scripture says about Nimrod is fiction or wild speculation.
Around 400 BC a Persian writer named Ctesias of Cnidus described a Babylonian king named Ninus and his wife Semiramis and their exploits about 1,800 years before his own time. (Ninus himself was a mythical king who is not mentioned in any of the exhaustive Mesopotamian king lists.) Ctesias' legend of Ninus was repeated and embellished by Diodorus Siculus in the 1st Century BC. Later a forger writing in the name of Pope Clement of Rome mistakenly identified the nonexistent king Ninus with the Biblical Nimrod and further embellished the tale with the claim that he had taught the Persians to worship fire. These notions were then collected and very greatly embellished by Alexander Hislop in his extremely inaccurate book "The Two Babylons." Hislop also claimed that Nimrod and Semiramis had a son named Tammuz. That claim is a total fabrication, since the son of Ninus and Semiramis was said to have been called Ninyas, not Tammuz, and since the mythological Tammuz was probably based on a semi-legendary king named Dumuzid, who had completely different origins from what Hislop claimed. Practically all of the rumors in circulation about Nimrod, Semiramis, Tammuz, and their supposed role in the origin of paganism can be traced back to Hislop's false speculations and imaginings.
The real "Semiramis" was the queen Shammuramat, wife of king Shamshi-Adad V of Assyria. She lived in the 9th Century BC, about 1,500 years too late to have had anything to do with Nimrod or the origins of paganism.

HAPPY EASTER! :)
Wow if this post is true some folks have been making a whole lot of stuff up?
 
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Man, I love that Rachel uses her God-given brain and passion to reason her faith. It's disturbing and sad to see some Christians would rather believe mythology as truth, rather than history as truth. But that's the way the cookie crumbles, I guess. Wait, are cookies pagan? :p
 

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i wrote this essay hoping that these rumors and misinformation about easter can finally be definitively put to rest here... that probably won't happen...but i can always dream...

MYTHS AND REALITIES ABOUT EASTER

About the Timing of the Crucifixion

MYTH: Jesus died on a Wednesday, not on Good Friday.
REALITY: Jesus died on a Friday. The day was the Day of Preparation, the day before the Sabbath, according to Mark 15:42 and John 19:14,31,42. It has been claimed that this was the day of preparation for a special "high Sabbath" associated with the Passover festival and not the weekly Saturday Sabbath. However Jesus died on the 15th of Nisan according to the Hebrew calendar, since he had just held the Passover seder the night before, the night of the 14th of Nisan. The two special Passover Sabbaths took place on the first day or the 15th of Nisan, and the seventh day or the 21st of Nisan, according to Exodus 12:16, Leviticus 23:7-8, Numbers 28:17,25 and Deuteronomy 16:8. There was no special Sabbath associated with the Passover feast on the 16th of Nisan, the day after Jesus died. If the 15th of Nisan was a day of preparation for a Sabbath, it could have only been for the weekly Saturday Sabbath which happened to fall on the 16th of Nisan that year.
The real source of this myth is a misunderstanding of what was meant by the "three days and three nights" that Jesus spent in the tomb. In ancient Hebrew idiom, "three days and three nights" did not mean seventy-two hours. In fact seventy-two hours was the upper limit for what could constitute "three days and three nights." A "day and night" simply referred to the twenty-four hour timeframe when something took place, regardless of whether the entire twenty-four hour period was taken up by the action. If Jesus died on Friday, around the ninth hour or 3:00 PM as in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34, and was buried before evening that day as in Matthew 27:57, Mark 15:42, and Luke 23:54, then the remaining few hours of Friday would have been counted as the first "day and night." The second "day and night" was Saturday, and when Jesus rose before dawn on Sunday morning he was already about twelve hours into the third "day and night." Friday, Saturday, and Sunday would have been counted as "three days and nights." If Jesus had died on a Wednesday, ancient Jews would have actually counted that as five days in the tomb!

MYTH: Jesus died at the same time as the Passover lambs were being slaughtered.
REALITY: This is an unbiblical tradition that is popular among some Christians, probably because it just seems so appropriate. In reality Jesus died around the ninth hour or 3:00 PM the day after the Passover seder, when the lambs would have been slaughtered at twilight as commanded in Exodus 12:6 and Deuteronomy 16:6. Although this tradition would seem fitting, it is biblically impossible.

About the Name of Easter

MYTH: Easter is named after the Babylonian goddess Ishtar.
REALITY: Easter and Ishtar only sound alike. There is no etymological relationship between the two. Easter is named for the Germanic month when it takes place, Eosturmonath or "dawn month." Ishtar on the other hand was an Akkadian name meaning "she who waters, " referring to her original role as a sky goddess of rain that produced fertile harvests. Easter and Ishtar have about as much in common as "paraklete" and "parakeet."

MYTH: Easter is named after the Germanic goddess Eostre.
REALITY: It is not certain that a Germanic goddess named Eostre even existed. The only historical reference to this goddess is in Bede's "De Temporum Ratione," where he relates that Eosturmonath was named for a goddess called Eostre. Bede himself admitted that Eostre worship was extinct by his time and that he had personally never witnessed it, getting his information from hearsay instead, so the accuracy of his account is doubtful. In fact the widespread scholarly consensus today is that the name Eosturmonath actually comes from the Old Germanic word "eostarum," meaning "dawn," so that Eosturmonath is the "dawn month."

NOTE: Most cultures that celebrate Jesus' resurrection on this day do not even call it Easter. It is usually referred to as "Pascha" or some variation on that name, which is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew term "Pesach," referring to the Passover.

About Easter Customs

MYTH: The egg was a symbol of Ishtar, so Easter eggs have pagan origins.
REALITY: The egg was not a Babylonian symbol of Ishtar at all. Ishtar was represented by lions (for example on the Ishtar Gate in Babylon) and by eight-pointed stars representing the planet Venus. In reality the association of eggs with Easter comes from the fact that eggs were not eaten during the Lenten fast. Eggs were part of the celebration of Easter because they were naturally in surplus when the fast ended and it was permitted to eat them again. In this way Easter was like a reverse Shrove Tuesday. Over time the egg was given another meaning as a symbol of new life given by Jesus' resurrection.

MYTH: The rabbit was a symbol of Ishtar/Tammuz, so the Easter bunny has pagan origins.
REALITY: It is mistakenly assumed that because rabbits breed quickly they must be symbols of Ishtar, a fertility goddess. In fact neither Ishtar nor Tammuz were symbolized by rabbits in Babylonian culture. I have already mentioned the real symbols of Ishtar, and Tammuz was represented by sheep, fish, and birds with broken wings. The association between rabbits and eggs in springtime actually did not appear until the 1600s in the Protestant regions of Europe, starting with a case of mistaken identity. Plover birds commonly take over the nests of hares, and the discovery of plover eggs in hares' nests led to the tradition of a hare leaving behind eggs around Easter time.

MYTH: Eggs were dyed red in the blood of babies sacrificed to Ishtar, so painting Easter eggs has particularly wicked pagan origins.
REALITY: I have already shown that the egg was not a symbol of Ishtar. Furthermore as a fertility goddess Ishtar was worshipped through rites involving sexual intercourse, not human sacrifice. This is actually a very recent rumor, first appearing in 2001 in "The Mystery of Iniquity," a short book written by false teacher and self-proclaimed Messianic Jewish rabbi Michael Rood (on what can be called the "dark side" of the Hebrew Roots movement). Rood provides no citation for this claim and it is apparent that he just made it up. This misinformation found its way onto the Internet around 2005, and had begun to spread slowly by 2007, with the propagation of the rumor picking up dramatically in the past two or three years. The notion that Ishtar worship involved ritual human sacrifice seems to derive from a 1960s horror movie called "Blood Feast," where a psychopath sacrifices his victims to Ishtar, whom the filmmakers had clearly confused with the bloodthirsty Egyptian goddess Sekhmet.
In reality it is likely that the practice of dying Easter eggs red was a reference to the blood of Jesus. Several Christian traditions suggest miraculous origins for the red-colored eggs, but none of these are particularly credible.

About Nimrod and "Semiramis," often Mentioned in Debates about Easter's Origins

MYTH: Nimrod had a wife named Semiramis and a son named Tammuz, and all pagan practices originate from this family.
REALITY: There is no mention of Nimrod in any historical records outside of the Bible. Anything beyond what Scripture says about Nimrod is fiction or wild speculation.
Around 400 BC a Persian writer named Ctesias of Cnidus described a Babylonian king named Ninus and his wife Semiramis and their exploits about 1,800 years before his own time. (Ninus himself was a mythical king who is not mentioned in any of the exhaustive Mesopotamian king lists.) Ctesias' legend of Ninus was repeated and embellished by Diodorus Siculus in the 1st Century BC. Later a forger writing in the name of Pope Clement of Rome mistakenly identified the nonexistent king Ninus with the Biblical Nimrod and further embellished the tale with the claim that he had taught the Persians to worship fire. These notions were then collected and very greatly embellished by Alexander Hislop in his extremely inaccurate book "The Two Babylons." Hislop also claimed that Nimrod and Semiramis had a son named Tammuz. That claim is a total fabrication, since the son of Ninus and Semiramis was said to have been called Ninyas, not Tammuz, and since the mythological Tammuz was probably based on a semi-legendary king named Dumuzid, who had completely different origins from what Hislop claimed. Practically all of the rumors in circulation about Nimrod, Semiramis, Tammuz, and their supposed role in the origin of paganism can be traced back to Hislop's false speculations and imaginings.
The real "Semiramis" was the queen Shammuramat, wife of king Shamshi-Adad V of Assyria. She lived in the 9th Century BC, about 1,500 years too late to have had anything to do with Nimrod or the origins of paganism.

HAPPY EASTER! :)
MYTH: Jesus died on a Wednesday, not on Good Friday.
REALITY: Jesus died on a Friday. REALITY Jesus Died on Thursday!

13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when
I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
As trusting in the blood spared them from physical death, trusting in the blood of Christ
spares us from spiritual death.
14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the
LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for
ever.
For those who trust Christ for salvation, Jesus (Yeshua) is our Passover and
Resurrection Sunday(which has been paganized to Easter) is our memorial. I am
saved by God’s grace; not by works of the law; yet as a Jewish believer, I have
felt led to observe the Feasts of Israel to identify myself with Israel. Rom 8:14-17
indicates that Gentile believers are adopted into the family of Christ; but many fail
to recognize that that family is the family of Judah. Perhaps, if Gentile believers
were to keep the Feasts of Israel, (not under compulsion of law), they would
experience more of a sense of connection with their adoptive family.
{Return to: verse 43 , Lv 23:5, Nu 9:5 }
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put
away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from
the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; surely the first day ye shall put
away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from
the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
cut off from Israel cut off usually signifies destroyed; but, with from Israel, or
‘from among’ , the sense seems to be NOT put to death; but excluded from
fellowship and regarded as a heathen.
{Return to: Ex 12:19 , Lv 23:6 }
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16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh
day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be
done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of
you.
an holy convocation A day set apart for worship.
no manner of work shall be done The 15th day of Abib is a Levitical Sabbath
regardless which day of the week it falls on. The mistaken belief that Jesus
(Yeshua) was crucified on Friday comes from not recognizing that the Sabbath
which was approaching was not the seventh day; but rather the fifteenth of Abib,
which fell on a Thursday that year. Thursday night and Friday were the First day.
Friday night and Saturday were the second day. Christ arose on Sunday, the
third day. The reason the women thought they had to wait until Sunday to
prepare the body for burial was that there were two consecutive Sabbaths.

MYTH: Jesus died at the same time as the Passover lambs were being slaughtered.
REALITY: This is an unbiblical tradition that is popular among some Christians, probably because it just seems so appropriate. In reality Jesus died around the ninth hour or 3:00 PM the day after of the Passover seder, when the lambs would have been slaughtered at twilight as commanded in Exodus 12:6 and Deuteronomy 16:6. Although this tradition would seem fitting, it is biblically impossible.

The remainder of the OP is equally misguided but I have dealt with it in my Paganization of the Church thread.
 
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Jesus died on Thursday? No. No, He died on Friday. And raised to new life on the Sunday.
 

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Jesus died on Thursday? No. No, He died on Friday. And raised to new life on the Sunday.

Is that because you say so or can you show where my analysis of the verses is faulty?
 
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Mitspa

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MYTH: Jesus died on a Wednesday, not on Good Friday.
REALITY: Jesus died on a Friday. REALITY Jesus Died on Thursday!

13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when
I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
As trusting in the blood spared them from physical death, trusting in the blood of Christ
spares us from spiritual death.
14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the
LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for
ever.
For those who trust Christ for salvation, Jesus (Yeshua) is our Passover and
Resurrection Sunday(which has been paganized to Easter) is our memorial. I am
saved by God’s grace; not by works of the law; yet as a Jewish believer, I have
felt led to observe the Feasts of Israel to identify myself with Israel. Rom 8:14-17
indicates that Gentile believers are adopted into the family of Christ; but many fail
to recognize that that family is the family of Judah. Perhaps, if Gentile believers
were to keep the Feasts of Israel, (not under compulsion of law), they would
experience more of a sense of connection with their adoptive family.
{Return to: verse 43 , Lv 23:5, Nu 9:5 }
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put
away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from
the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; surely the first day ye shall put
away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from
the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
cut off from Israel cut off usually signifies destroyed; but, with from Israel, or
‘from among’ , the sense seems to be NOT put to death; but excluded from
fellowship and regarded as a heathen.
{Return to: Ex 12:19 , Lv 23:6 }
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16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh
day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be
done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of
you.
an holy convocation A day set apart for worship.
no manner of work shall be done The 15th day of Abib is a Levitical Sabbath
regardless which day of the week it falls on. The mistaken belief that Jesus
(Yeshua) was crucified on Friday comes from not recognizing that the Sabbath
which was approaching was not the seventh day; but rather the fifteenth of Abib,
which fell on a Thursday that year. Thursday night and Friday were the First day.
Friday night and Saturday were the second day. Christ arose on Sunday, the
third day. The reason the women thought they had to wait until Sunday to
prepare the body for burial was that there were two consecutive Sabbaths.

MYTH: Jesus died at the same time as the Passover lambs were being slaughtered.
REALITY: This is an unbiblical tradition that is popular among some Christians, probably because it just seems so appropriate. In reality Jesus died around the ninth hour or 3:00 PM the day after of the Passover seder, when the lambs would have been slaughtered at twilight as commanded in Exodus 12:6 and Deuteronomy 16:6. Although this tradition would seem fitting, it is biblically impossible.

The remainder of the OP is equally misguided but I have dealt with it in my Paganization of the Church thread.
Brother Marc can you show a reliable historical source that disproved Rachals statements besides the issue about the day of the Lords death...I kinda have an issue with that myself. I Have seen that both you guys are very honest and sincere in your beliefs.