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The reason. Why he fears it is because they were doing those things with the wrong motive: earning favor or status before God. That is the context of all of Paul's criticisms of the Law. But the God who gave those instructions to be done forever, that Jesus also said to do forever still stands, as long as they are done with the proper motivation. Paul cannot speak against the very Law he kept himself, and the Law that Jesus told His followers to keep. So they reason he came against those who kept it was for a completely different situation.
I absolutely seek after the Spirit first and foremost. And the Holy Spirit leads me to obedience to God. And that often includes His Law.
Then you need to see, and start making a distinction between those who obey out of a false sense of security (akin to the Pharisees), and those who obey out of Love (the disciples, Paul, etc).
Then you need to see, and start making a distinction between those who obey out of a false sense of security (akin to the Pharisees), and those who obey out of Love (the disciples, Paul, etc).
You mentioned context and I was complementing your exhortations. These things I "cherry picked" (according to your estimation) are not my words. It is not up to us to pick and choose out of scripture only what we want according to predetermined beliefs. Paul wrote all of Romans and Luke wrote all of Acts. It was them ordained of God not me or you.
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No, you misunderstand what I'm saying. The "slippery slope" is the thinking that we can do what we feel please God, even if we neglect His specific instructions of what to do.
Sigh....again, my obedience to God and His commands do not keep me in right relationship with Him. My obedience to Him is a loving response to the gracious gift that keeps me clean before Him.
Sigh....again, my obedience to God and His commands do not keep me in right relationship with Him. My obedience to Him is a loving response to the gracious gift that keeps me clean before Him.
Does your faith do this? Are you establishing the law by the faith you say you have? What you're describing of yourself seems to be very different than how Paul described his beliefs. Let's see how you interpret the scripture I presented in agreement with the scripture you presented. If there is a seeming contradiction, then something is not right in how we understand the truth. Describe the proper context of this verse please.
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:31
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And this is the same mountain you and I have gone around many times before, and it has almost always been without fruit. In that case, it is best to agree to disagree and instead appreciate the sincere relationship each of us with God, and continue to be encouraged by it. At this point, I will respectfully bow out this particular discussion with you in order to not get caught up in debates that cause quarrels (2 Tim 2:23).
I don't want to get into your relationship with God as it pertains to specific areas of obedience to God. As I mentioned, that is between you and God. I am simply saying that as Christians, we should not ignore God's specific instructions because we don't "feel" like or "believe we should. And I am guilty of that at times as well.
As I've said repeatedly since I've been here, all commands in the Law have a physical and/or spiritual application. All all are applicable to us in some way. But all should be done in light of the mercy and grace God has shown us.
Do I physically stone others? Of course not. It is God who now doles out whatever consequences He deems necessary in light of Jesus' sacrifice. Is there a spiritual stoning of a sinful heart or mindset in me that needs to take place? Yes. That is the spiritual application of the Law.
Do I physically stone others? Of course not. It is God who now doles out whatever consequences He deems necessary in light of Jesus' sacrifice. Is there a spiritual stoning of a sinful heart or mindset in me that needs to take place? Yes. That is the spiritual application of the Law.