Jesus killed the law causing enmity to cease

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That is a good question for the Bereans. The answer from me would be that we no longer have Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, Jude, and the writer of Hebrews to talk to us one on one and prove the truth via the Old Testament. All those guys used the Old Testament to prove the New Testament and prove Jesus as the true Messiah. The Old Testament is not against the New. That's the whole point that I witness.
I'm not asking the Bereans . . . "I would just like to ask you -
Why do we have a NEW Testament?
What is the purpose of the New Testament if nothing has changed and everything is as it was under the OT"?

And as usual you double talk your way around simply answering a question

The only "witness" that I have received when reading your posts [no offense] is that you prefer the OT to the NT and that you don't get anything of value from the NT.
 
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No, I can read and understand the Word of God just fine. Some Jewish tradition does not trump the Word of God in what it plainly says. Anyone who reads Jesus talking about not taking matters into their own hands gets it. He says... you have heard it written an eye for an eye.... Then Jesus says.... BUT I SAY UNTO YOU.... meaning.... Jesus is making a change. Nowhere was this teaching stressed in the Old Testament before. The Law could allow you to render justice. For why on Earth do you think God commanded the Israelites to destroy it's enemies? Yet in the New Testament, the apostles are persecuted for their faith? See, there is a big distinction between the two covenants.
The law given to Moses is certainly is not the Jewish tradition that is/was outside of the law. The law of the eye for an eye is not Jewish tradition. The turning of the other cheek is something that is more equated with tradition. Jesus taught concepts of truth to override tradition by teaching proper perspectives. We are to judge, but not by our own rules. We are not to love by our own perception either. We have to have the Word of truth.

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 7:24
 
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This thread is so similar to so many others. Is it necessary? Of course it is. To snatch those who are wandering towards the jaws of death and hell is the duty of all who love the family in Jesus, Yeshua.

It this type of subject is repeated weekly until our Lord returns, it is not enough, for anything thtat helps others in their personal walks with Jesus, Yeshua, is good and necessary.

Anyone who is tired of it is maybe tired of pleading for the salvation of others. Neverr tire from repeating the truth, tire the lie.
 
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Personally, I've never heard this expression used by anyone in these forums yet: "Jesus killed the law". So, I don't know where your coming from by saying this is what is taught by some people in the CC. What I've heard taught is what Jesus said, He came not to destroy (kill) the law, but to fulfill it. Which means He came to make the "once for all" last blood sacrifice for our sins, so that once we believe in Him, all of our sins, past, present, and future sins, are all wiped out forever.

Let's see what else is taught in the CC.

if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Gal 2:21)

What do you know? This is also a bible verse. The inspired word of God. But sometimes it's necessary to look at bible verses in the right context because so many people misinterpret them because they don't agree with them. So what does it mean when it says that if righteousness comes by the law then Christ is dead in vain? Of course, it means that if obedience to the law could make anybody righteous then Christ wouldn't have had to die for us.

if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law(Gal 3:21)

Being obedient to the law does not make one righteous, you do not become righteous by obeying the law, obeying the law cannot save you and cause you to deserve to go to heaven, obeying the law does not give you life. I wander how many different ways I have to say it before people finally get the point? Only believing in Jesus can save you and give you life, and make you righteous, because Jesus forgives your sins, translates you from death unto life, and then righteousness is automatically imputed upon you by faith.

To say that obeying the law cannot save you, as the bible clearly states, is synonymous with saying that disobeying the law will not cause you to lose your Salvation. If righteousness does not come by obeying the law, then unrighteousness does not come by disobeying the law.

For those who think they have to obey the law or they will lose their Salvation let me remind you of something else:

[SUP]2[/SUP] Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, (If you believe you have to keep even one part of the law such as circumcision) Christ shall profit you nothing.
[SUP]3[/SUP] For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. (Gal 5:2-3)

Here Paul mentions circumcision but it can apply to any aspect of the law. Many people say, sure we know we don't have to keep all the ceremonial laws and a lot of that other stuff but we do have to keep the moral code and the 10 commandments. But that's not possible because here Paul is saying if you feel you have to keep even one part of the law in order to be saved or to stay saved, then Christ will profit you nothing, and you will have to keep every other little tiny aspect of the law, as well. And James also wrote some thing along the same lines:[SUP]10[/SUP] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[SUP]11[/SUP] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

One last point: Since Jesus fulfilled the law then we who believe in Jesus are fulfilling the law by believing in Him. We are obeying every jot and tittle of the law by believing in Jesus. Belief in Jesus fulfills the law in you.

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (We walk in the spirit because we believe in Jesus and trust in Him for our Salvation, We walk in the flesh when we trust in the legalism of obedience to the law to save us or to keep us saved.)


[SUP]8[/SUP] Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[SUP]9[/SUP] For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]10[/SUP] Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Jesus loved us by dying for us to save us, and we love Him back by trusting in Him for our Salvation and by loving one another

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.



 
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The law given to Moses is certainly is not the Jewish tradition that is/was outside of the law. The law of the eye for an eye is not Jewish tradition. The turning of the other cheek is something that is more equated with tradition. Jesus taught concepts of truth to override tradition by teaching proper perspectives. We are to judge, but not by our own rules. We are not to love by our own perception either. We have to have the Word of truth.

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 7:24
17And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. 18And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast. 19And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; 20Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again. 21And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death. 22Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for Iam the LORD your God. 23And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses. (Leviticus 24)

15One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. 16If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; 17Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; 18And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness,and hath testified falsely against his brother; 19Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. 20And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you. 21And thine eye shall not pity; but lifeshall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. (Deuteronomy 19).
 
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Personally, I've never heard this expression used by anyone in these forums yet: "Jesus killed the law". So, I don't know where your coming from by saying this is what is taught by some people in the CC. What I've heard taught is what Jesus said, He came not to destroy (kill) the law, but to fulfill it. Which means He came to make the "once for all" last blood sacrifice for our sins, so that once we believe in Him, all of our sins, past, present, and future sins, are all wiped out forever.

Let's see what else is taught in the CC.

if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Gal 2:21)

What do you know? This is also a bible verse. The inspired word of God. But sometimes it's necessary to look at bible verses in the right context because so many people misinterpret them because they don't agree with them. So what does it mean when it says that if righteousness comes by the law then Christ is dead in vain? Of course, it means that if obedience to the law could make anybody righteous then Christ wouldn't have had to die for us.

if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law(Gal 3:21)

Being obedient to the law does not make one righteous, you do not become righteous by obeying the law, obeying the law cannot save you and cause you to deserve to go to heaven, obeying the law does not give you life. I wander how many different ways I have to say it before people finally get the point? Only believing in Jesus can save you and give you life, and make you righteous, because Jesus forgives your sins, translates you from death unto life, and then righteousness is automatically imputed upon you by faith.

To say that obeying the law cannot save you, as the bible clearly states, is synonymous with saying that disobeying the law will not cause you to lose your Salvation. If righteousness does not come by obeying the law, then unrighteousness does not come by disobeying the law.

For those who think they have to obey the law or they will lose their Salvation let me remind you of something else:

[SUP]2[/SUP] Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, (If you believe you have to keep even one part of the law such as circumcision) Christ shall profit you nothing.
[SUP]3[/SUP] For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. (Gal 5:2-3)

Here Paul mentions circumcision but it can apply to any aspect of the law. Many people say, sure we know we don't have to keep all the ceremonial laws and a lot of that other stuff but we do have to keep the moral code and the 10 commandments. But that's not possible because here Paul is saying if you feel you have to keep even one part of the law in order to be saved or to stay saved, then Christ will profit you nothing, and you will have to keep every other little tiny aspect of the law, as well. And James also wrote some thing along the same lines:[SUP]10[/SUP] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[SUP]11[/SUP] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

One last point: Since Jesus fulfilled the law then we who believe in Jesus are fulfilling the law by believing in Him. We are obeying every jot and tittle of the law by believing in Jesus. Belief in Jesus fulfills the law in you.

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (We walk in the spirit because we believe in Jesus and trust in Him for our Salvation, We walk in the flesh when we trust in the legalism of obedience to the law to save us or to keep us saved.)


[SUP]8[/SUP] Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[SUP]9[/SUP] For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]10[/SUP] Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Jesus loved us by dying for us to save us, and we love Him back by trusting in Him for our Salvation and by loving one another

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.



No. The Bible does not teach that future sin is not forgiven. That is a doctrine that leads people to think they can sin and still be saved (Which is wrong). John told believers to sin not, and if they do sin they have an advocate they can go to named Jesus Christ (1 John 2:1). For if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). John tells us to walk in the light as He is in the light whereby the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. So being cleansed of all sin only applies if one is walking in the light.
 
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I never said it was not God's Law. Yet the Bible says it is also called the Law of Moses, though. Why? Because the Law was given to Moses so as to give to his people. That is why it is called the Law of Moses. Yet the Law of Moses (or the Law of God for the Israelites under the Old Testament) is not in effect as a whole anymore. The Old Covenant has passed away and we are now under a New Covenant in Jesus Christ with different Laws. Yes, some laws are the same, but many of them are not the same, though. That's the point you keep ignoring.
Did you know that there were not just Hebrews/Israelites at Mt Sinai? Israel is the name God gave His people. So anyone Hebrew decent or not, the people there became the nation of Israel. I posted a thread on this.


And I have not ignored anything, a huge huge majority of the commandments in Torah refer to the levitical priests, the tabernacle, and invading foreign lands.

And then as far as a judge for death, that would be Yeshua and His blood covers that, but that doesn't mean you can abuse that and do anything you want.

Also I saw something about sacrifices, did you know Paul did a Nazerite vow? Which requires sacrifices in it, and he paid for others to do it as well.
 
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The Word of God is our standard and not your life, though. It is impossible to obey both the Old and the New because both sets of Laws conflict with each other. You cannot obey and believe in the animal sacrifices and yet also believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior. The Temple veil has been torn. There is no going back.
When the temple veil tore, I believe that was the spirit being released. Behind the veil was the Holy of Holys which is where the spirit dwelled.
 
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Did you know that there were not just Hebrews/Israelites at Mt Sinai? Israel is the name God gave His people. So anyone Hebrew decent or not, the people there became the nation of Israel. I posted a thread on this.


And I have not ignored anything, a huge huge majority of the commandments in Torah refer to the levitical priests, the tabernacle, and invading foreign lands.

And then as far as a judge for death, that would be Yeshua and His blood covers that, but that doesn't mean you can abuse that and do anything you want.

Also I saw something about sacrifices, did you know Paul did a Nazerite vow? Which requires sacrifices in it, and he paid for others to do it as well.
I am not sure at this point that anything I say to you with the Word of God will help you two see there are two different and distinct covenants.

Yes, I am aware that Gentiles could be saved in the Old Testament. Gentiles had repented at the preaching of Jonah. Rahab and Ruth were both Gentiles. The Jewish nation was supposed to be a light to the Gentiles. But the New Covenant includes both Jew and Gentile as being one in Christ (Unlike the Old Testament). For Jesus first preached the gospel to the Israelites and then the Gentiles. The Jewish nation is not made up of primarily Gentiles. It was made up of mostly Hebrew people. But the body of Christ is made up of both Jew and Gentiles. There is no Jew and Gentile anymore in Christ under the New Covenant. Circumcision is not required anymore. In the OT, a male Gentile had to become circumcised in order to become a Jew and be saved. Now, that is not the case. One can go directly to Jesus Christ.
 
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No. The Bible does not teach that future sin is not forgiven. That is a doctrine that leads people to think they can sin and still be saved (Which is wrong). John told believers to sin not, and if they do sin they have an advocate they can go to named Jesus Christ (1 John 2:1). For if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). John tells us to walk in the light as He is in the light whereby the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. So being cleansed of all sin only applies if one is walking in the light.
Meant to say ..... future sin is forgiven.

Meaning, it is wrong to teach that future sin is forgiven a believer. For no such Scripture verse specifically says that future sin is forgiven us.
 
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I'm not asking the Bereans . . . "I would just like to ask you -
Why do we have a NEW Testament?
What is the purpose of the New Testament if nothing has changed and everything is as it was under the OT"?

And as usual you double talk your way around simply answering a question

The only "witness" that I have received when reading your posts [no offense] is that you prefer the OT to the NT and that you don't get anything of value from the NT.
So we have the proof is my answer. The NT is just as important to me as the OT. I put neither one above the other. It's an assumption derived from others putting the NT over the OT in a biased way. They are both equally important. Nothing has changed with God from the the OT to the NT, for it is us that change by the blood Testament of Christ. The NT shows us the finished plan through Christ. What people seem to fail to realize is that the chronology of scripture, stating with Genesis and on through to Malachi is necessary to see what the NT is built upon henceforth proven as true in detail. Without the OT, we do not understand the NT as God would want. The truth of Jesus being the true Messiah is proven by the OT. Concerning the law, I quote Jesus.

"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?" John 5:46-47

Please understand that I do not esteem any part of scripture more or less important and any other part. (redundant to make a point) The people that argue with me want to esteem the NT over the OT. Most of the time it is obvious that they don't see the spiral relevance of the law God gave to Moses and how it still all applies for believers today, including the Spiritual understanding of the temple worship all fulfilled in Christ. How can I be partial when I know our Lord and Savior was the One who fulfilled the very plan He created, stating with Genesis 1:1? He didn't mess up with the perfect chronology. I all fits and is current. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
 
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Also, if it is not in the Word of God, it doesn't exist. I don't care what some tradition says or what some book says if it is not the Word of God. For I will not be judged by these other sources but I will be judged by the Word of God. So you either make God's Word your final authority alone or you don't make it your authority alone.
 
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The new covenant is the old covenant written in our hearts and in our mind. We are also given the Spirit as to a guide in our walk.

I see so many people that only hold on to grace, and then that's it. And I see so many Torah observant people told they're wrong by the people that hold to grace only.



Matthew 7:13-14/21-23
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because[a] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
 
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So we have the proof is my answer. The NT is just as important to me as the OT. I put neither one above the other. It's an assumption derived from others putting the NT over the OT in a biased way. They are both equally important. Nothing has changed with God from the the OT to the NT, for it is us that change by the blood Testament of Christ. The NT shows us the finished plan through Christ. What people seem to fail to realize is that the chronology of scripture, stating with Genesis and on through to Malachi is necessary to see what the NT is built upon henceforth proven as true in detail. Without the OT, we do not understand the NT as God would want. The truth of Jesus being the true Messiah is proven by the OT. Concerning the law, I quote Jesus.

"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?" John 5:46-47

Please understand that I do not esteem any part of scripture more or less important and any other part. (redundant to make a point) The people that argue with me want to esteem the NT over the OT. Most of the time it is obvious that they don't see the spiral relevance of the law God gave to Moses and how it still all applies for believers today, including the Spiritual understanding of the temple worship all fulfilled in Christ. How can I be partial when I know our Lord and Savior was the One who fulfilled the very plan He created, stating with Genesis 1:1? He didn't mess up with the perfect chronology. I all fits and is current. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
I wouldn't say I "esteem" the NT any higher than the OT but I do maybe put more emphasis on the NT being as it is written to the church the body of Christ of which I am a member so it's like a personal letter to "me". . . . When I say NT I mean after the gospels because the gospels are still written to those under the law. The NT brings to light the OT dispelling the shadows . . .

I saw a something in scripture from the Old to the New that changed and it caught my eye . . . I'll share it with ya :)

Psalm 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

Romans 8:36,37 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. NAY, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

That "NAY" - BIG change - we are no longer counted as sheep for the slaughter [as Israel] We, the body of Christ are more than conquerors!!!!!! ;)
 
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The Antinomian believes Jesus fulfilled all law of every kind (Including New Testament Law) whereby you do not need to keep any laws whatsoever so as to be saved. But this is lawlessness, though. For Paul says we establish the Law. Paul is not against obeying Jesus and His teachings. For Paul essentially says if any man teaches contrary to the words of Jesus and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing (1 Timothy 6:3-4). This is not Salvation by works, either. For God does the good work in the believer if they have truly repented and accepted Jesus.

The Works Salvationist and or Law of Moses keepers believe that Jesus only fulfilled the sacrificial laws in most cases. So one needs to keep the Law of Moses, too. Which doesn't make sense because James says if you break one law, you are guilty of breaking them all. So either one is following all of the Law of Moses or they are not following them all. One can clearly see there is a change between the Old and the New with the certain laws or commands. In fact, Paul said in Galatians 5 that circumcision does not benefit or have any value to anyone in Christ. Yet, circumcision was a part of the Old Testament Law. For if you were not circumcised in the Old Testament, you were to be cut off. But this is not the case with a New Covenant believer who is in Jesus Christ, though. This aspect of salvation is wrong because it looks more upon one's performance rather than Jesus Christ for one's salvation. Yes, we are to obey the teachings of Jesus Christ under the New Testament. But this is the result of one having been saved by God's grace and diligent study of His Word.
 
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In other words, there are two wrong extremes. On one end of the spectrum or extreme, there is the promotion of lawlessness. On the other end of the spectrum, we can see that it is about a promotion of one to trust in what they should do in order to be saved (i.e. one's performance versus say letting God be their salvation). Both versions are wrong and they each both promote one in being their own god.
 
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To put it to you another way, if a person thinks they can sin and still be saved on some level, there is no doubt that they are serving themselves instead of God. For sin is all about one's self and what they want. If one is trying to save themselves by a certain list of things they have to do, then it becomes more about themselves being the Savior instead of allowing Jesus to be the Savior within their life. Following the teachings of Jesus Christ under the New Testament (and not the Old) is what is expected of us and is the work that God wants to do thru us.
 
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In other words, there are two wrong extremes. On one end of the spectrum or extreme, there is the promotion of lawlessness. On the other end of the spectrum, we can see that it is about a promotion of one to trust in what they should do in order to be saved (i.e. one's performance versus say letting God be their salvation). Both versions are wrong and they each both promote one in being their own god.
you said one end promotes but I think if you are talking about the law then the word promotes should be points out law but it sounds like you are talking about the law and not Grace.
 
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I wouldn't say I "esteem" the NT any higher than the OT but I do maybe put more emphasis on the NT being as it is written to the church the body of Christ of which I am a member so it's like a personal letter to "me". . . . When I say NT I mean after the gospels because the gospels are still written to those under the law. The NT brings to light the OT dispelling the shadows . . .

I saw a something in scripture from the Old to the New that changed and it caught my eye . . . I'll share it with ya :)

Psalm 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

Romans 8:36,37 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. NAY, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

That "NAY" - BIG change - we are no longer counted as sheep for the slaughter [as Israel] We, the body of Christ are more than conquerors!!!!!! ;)
In addition, to bring the concept together in both scriptures in its entity I quote.

"And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me." Luke 9:23

So being killed all day long by following Christ, we are more than conquerers in Christ. Dead to the flesh and alive by the Spirit through Christ Jesus our Lord. We haven't the power by our own works, but we are given the power to conquer through Him. All good gifts come from Heaven above.

"I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily." 1 Corinthians 15:31
 
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To put it to you another way, if a person thinks they can sin and still be saved on some level, there is no doubt that they are serving themselves instead of God. For sin is all about one's self and what they want. If one is trying to save themselves by a certain list of things they have to do, then it becomes more about themselves being the Savior instead of allowing Jesus to be the Savior within their life. Following the teachings of Jesus Christ under the New Testament (and not the Old) is what is expected of us and is the work that God wants to do thru us.
remember that it was in the spirit that we were saved and then the spirit was sealed so then if we sin in the body the spirit did not participate.
Under Grace GOD is faithful if we confess our sins to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from all righteousness.

You will have to forgive me for not copying and pasting scriptures I'm on my tablet and it more difficult.