"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things make a man "unclean". "For our of the heart comes..false testimony, slander." These are what make a man 'Unclean."
The curse of the law
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And how was Christ "made a curse" again the curse in not the law, but sin.
Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
And the Word was made flesh.
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Made to be sin....made to be a curse
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
And the Word was made flesh.
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Made to be sin....made to be a curse
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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I'm not going to continue on this thread any further.
As we can see its about her own understanding as she herself just admitted.
How she might wrest the scriptures provided according to her own understanding (verses yours) is really not your problem to sort out for her.
And given what she just said she is admittedly arguing with herself.
Let her continue to beat herself up
All the heat comes from lighting up all the straw she is trying to put in your mouth.
The "non responsiveness" of Jesus Christ our Lord would be counted a victory if one sought to follow him when their conversation was being set up for their sport. She posts "non responsive" (to alert the readers there is something "in that" ) "as if" it shows something commendable on her own part. When in fact your "non responsiveness" to what you feel is insincere questioning (while being provoked to answer for yourself) is what I find commmendable.
Which would fustrate her efforts to strive with you and so it is "a must" to create something from false in order to continue on with what she desires to do with you (which is strive) and we see that intent surface in creating what is false and putting it in your mouth to another poster (which she did in her post to MarcR) in order to draw in and create a two way conversation without you (on the straw). That helps create the illusion that there is something in what she made up (since another is being used in the game) to give it some merit.
Im sure some folks will called that "light" verses the kindling it really is.
Here is a beautiful crown of plastic straws that were taped together perfect for the occasion
This consuming obsession with you over your post is insanity.
But she seems to seek a crown, and she has at least earned one
So, here is a beautiful crown of straws
What does that have to do with the verse I quoted 1 John 4:1. (not my words) Are you saying scripture is dull, or unclean? Again, I only posted scripture, not my words.
whether she lied, was insincere, or just coming from error, that she /he/it/ stays in and defends or
cannot defend,
the scriptures has been opposed by her/he/it directly many times; and he/she/it has opposed those
posting the truth many times, sometimes it is done with subtlety, sometimes more obviously, but none-the-less it is done over and over and over again,
with
or
without understanding of the TRUTH and without agreeing with the TRUTH....
i.e. what is the source of the problem behind the poster is not so far revealed, but will be when GOD choses to do so.
meanwhile, the posts are not reliable, true, nor trustworthy,
and
it is well within the realm of SCRIPTURE to note this for what it is and , IF possible, seek resolution --- so far it has been resisted, refused, or denied.
the why's and wherefore's are still unknown. as is the 'school' behind the posts..... and why it is even posted or defended or promoted.
cannot defend,
the scriptures has been opposed by her/he/it directly many times; and he/she/it has opposed those
posting the truth many times, sometimes it is done with subtlety, sometimes more obviously, but none-the-less it is done over and over and over again,
with
or
without understanding of the TRUTH and without agreeing with the TRUTH....
i.e. what is the source of the problem behind the poster is not so far revealed, but will be when GOD choses to do so.
meanwhile, the posts are not reliable, true, nor trustworthy,
and
it is well within the realm of SCRIPTURE to note this for what it is and , IF possible, seek resolution --- so far it has been resisted, refused, or denied.
the why's and wherefore's are still unknown. as is the 'school' behind the posts..... and why it is even posted or defended or promoted.
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Im sorry you were put in the middle because you are a man of integrity and I have great respect for you as I have told you this before.
So I am sorry you were being used to that effect, this is not your fault. (you just didnt see what was going on) or how you were being used.
Sometimes there are not things visible to everyone lurking and now we have others pulling a dog by the ears and all that good stuff.
Theres are things which if kept nicely uncover you can really get away with alot.
Dont respond any further and involve yourself.
I have learned alot on this thread the last couple of days, I am thru with the thread and the woman on it.
The Lord deal to her as He seems fit to.
So I am sorry you were being used to that effect, this is not your fault. (you just didnt see what was going on) or how you were being used.
Sometimes there are not things visible to everyone lurking and now we have others pulling a dog by the ears and all that good stuff.
Theres are things which if kept nicely uncover you can really get away with alot.
Dont respond any further and involve yourself.
I have learned alot on this thread the last couple of days, I am thru with the thread and the woman on it.
The Lord deal to her as He seems fit to.
The curse is God's punishment on the guilt of sin, condemnation to God's wrath (Ro 5:9), which Christ took for us on the cross.
"Made a curse"--to become a curse for us (Gal 3:13),
to bear our sin in his own body (flesh) on the tree (1Pe 2:24).
"Made to be sin" is made to be a sin offering (2Co 5:21).
The sinner's sin was placed on the sacrificial offering which took the punishment of death in the sinner's place.
< Too much word study and not enough doctrinal study. >
"Made a curse"--to become a curse for us (Gal 3:13),
to bear our sin in his own body (flesh) on the tree (1Pe 2:24).
"Made to be sin" is made to be a sin offering (2Co 5:21).
The sinner's sin was placed on the sacrificial offering which took the punishment of death in the sinner's place.
< Too much word study and not enough doctrinal study. >
maybe. maybe not. it's awkward to know --- as you noted, a lot is 'hidden' that will someday be revealed... they both have 'liked' some of my posts, and
others they
have each at different times (or the same time if it happened)
rejected outright as if they had some
knowledge outside or instead of the WORD of GOD that was better.....
and
the
'why' or 'wherefore' thereof remains unknown... (but looks like an agenda, not in Scripture agenda, being protected or defended...... )
again, still, it is not clearly out in the open.... and I haven't seen anyone 'press in' to find out, if that matters.
it will take quite some time and revelation , probably, and is not seemingly possible on this forum..... (due to so many constraints - time and space and other known and unknown)... (maybe, mostly, 'willingness'?... hadn't thought of that one before.... but as JESUS says, concerning Jerusalem's residents, He desired to gather them under His Wings (protecting them, nurturing them, saving them, helping and healing them) , and they "would not") ....
others they
have each at different times (or the same time if it happened)
rejected outright as if they had some
knowledge outside or instead of the WORD of GOD that was better.....
and
the
'why' or 'wherefore' thereof remains unknown... (but looks like an agenda, not in Scripture agenda, being protected or defended...... )
again, still, it is not clearly out in the open.... and I haven't seen anyone 'press in' to find out, if that matters.
it will take quite some time and revelation , probably, and is not seemingly possible on this forum..... (due to so many constraints - time and space and other known and unknown)... (maybe, mostly, 'willingness'?... hadn't thought of that one before.... but as JESUS says, concerning Jerusalem's residents, He desired to gather them under His Wings (protecting them, nurturing them, saving them, helping and healing them) , and they "would not") ....
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Just MarcR's last post I erred in reading what he actually meant to say, he never corrected me so Elin highlighting it actually helped to show what he said.
I can say I am wrong, and I have also agreed with Elin's point about the one vow, but if someone is saying they arent saying something Im not going to stick it in their mouth and make believe its there.
I can say I am wrong, and I have also agreed with Elin's point about the one vow, but if someone is saying they arent saying something Im not going to stick it in their mouth and make believe its there.